So we can not fall to a 9-seed and get beat first round......again.
Kansas State vs. Iowa Comparison
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You make a lot of good logical statements.
BBall has the smallest roster of most sports, especially the main sports, including wrestling and baseball so it can be easier from a numbers point to improve your team. If you can get 3 very good players and 5-6 good support players you can win. If your pt guard is very good to excellent, with a couple really good arc shooters, and good rebounding you can win big.
Face it, the hawks have been guard-poor under Fran.
Keegan also put on good size/strength. Even Conner became a stronger statue which helped him hold position when they didn't drive by him.
That is the perfect image to describe how this fan base feels. It is ludicrous for a school that has such limited resources to make it that far in the tourney when Iowa can't sniff a sweet 16.Florida Atlantic, as a NINE seed, is going to the Elite 8.
Iowa hasn't advanced past the first full weekend of a single NCAA Tournament since 1999.
Everyone at Iowa still bears psychological scars from the Lickliter and Alford years.
If so, that's a weak-ass excuse. Move on. It only takes a few years to turn a hoops program around with the right coach. Fran did a great job of getting the program back on good footing, but after 13 years his ceiling looks pretty clear.
If Fran had followed Lute the opinion of him would be much different. In college bball today it doesn't even take a few years. With the portal, the right coach will have them in the tournament year 1.
Totally agree. There's so many good players in college basketball that get overlooked, an example being Nowell from K State. I'm sure because of his size he started out at Arkansas Little Rock. He's incredible. DeVries came into Drake w/2 players on the roster 5 years ago and has won 125 games in 5 years. Fran has been a solid coach. But again last night it was proven you need guards to win in this tournament. You need shotmakers.
Well, we know he feels about it if it’s not one of his “chosen ones.” Which is mostly blood relatives.
This makes me think of the meme of Abe Simpson yelling at the cloud.....except the cloud has WAY more intelligence than Barta.
Guards who can throw perfect no-look ally-oops while arguing with their coach with hand gestures no less
I'm convinced that was all done intentionally. And it was done to perfection.Guards who can throw perfect no-look ally-oops while arguing with their coach with hand gestures no less
You’re joking right. All of our guys are on the lean end. Perkins is close as is rebraca but the rest no.
How many Iowa guys that played for fran look like the guys playing last night. Not many.
I have changed my view on coaching changes for MBB due to the transfer portal. I think the penalty of making a change is lower than when we moved on from Dr. Tom due to the portal and the ability of a coach to change roster make up quickly. With basketball teams being smaller quicker accension is more likely and can be sustained vs. that of say Football.
So while I like Fran, there shouldn’t be any fear from Barta or anyone else in making a change with a mens or women’s basketball coach. Mistakes can quickly be reversed if needed. Pretty sure no one in the basketball community would raise their eyebrow at Iowa giving Fran 13 years and making a move based on postseason results.
So while I like Fran, there shouldn’t be any fear from Barta or anyone else in making a change with a mens or women’s basketball coach. Mistakes can quickly be reversed if needed. Pretty sure no one in the basketball community would raise their eyebrow at Iowa giving Fran 13 years and making a move based on postseason results.
You still need to find the RIGHT coach. That hasn't changed. BTW, Fran isn't going anywhere in the next 5 years barring a total collapse or a decision to retire.
Sure the right coach on the first swing is the best route but if it doesn’t work then make another change as the penalty in changing the roster via the portal isn’t a big one. It isn’t like pre portal where the only way to change a roster was via High School or JC recruiting.
I was amazed at how Hoyer got transfers that were problem children from other programs. But somehow got them to play his way and stay out of trouble. Come together as a team and play together. This was pre portal. I thought it would bite him in the ass. Never did. I am still amazed how KState turned the thing around with a bunch of transfers in one year.
What he did have as 1 of the returning guys was Nowell. Now I don’t think anyone had any idea he was going to be this good but all credit to Tang for just letting these guys play.
Don’t upset the Franiacs. Fran has been to FOUR tourneys in a row - mind you! And, careful what you wish for - as the Franiacs will remind you - we don’t want to risk “change” because remember back in the day what happened with <insert previous coach name.>
This is a tired program … with a tired coach … that needs a system reboot… Watch March Madness and you will see plenty of talented/up and coming coaches. But many Franiacs believe there are no coaches out there who could do better than Fran’s 51% conference wins and ZERO Sweet 16s in what will be YEAR 14… Yes, YEAR 14.
We plan on keeping Fran into his 70's to try and pass Boeheim at the age he retired.
Let's be honest. We know what that means, and yes it is an issue at Iowa..........
Frans gotta go after watching this tournament. Get a guy who can draw up plays and recruit like a madman. The amount of players better than what Iowa has is disgusting. P5 or not.
Florida Atlantic, as a NINE seed, is going to the Elite 8.
Iowa hasn't advanced past the first full weekend of a single NCAA Tournament since 1999.
Let’s take it one step further
Any one who thinks Iowa has athletes on this team is crazy. It is so damn frustrating to watch the tournament and see so many teams that are more athletic than Iowa.
A better discussion is why in the f*** is Princeton in a better position as a program having made a Sweet 16, than Iowa?
Let's talk about that one first and then double back to Kansas State................
Honest question, could Iowa beat Princeton?
Let's talk about that one first and then double back to Kansas State................
Honest question, could Iowa beat Princeton?
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And local boy McDermott , coaching midwestern team from Nebraska, is another Coach thta out classes IOWA with much lessFlorida Atlantic, as a NINE seed, is going to the Elite 8.
Iowa hasn't advanced past the first full weekend of a single NCAA Tournament since 1999.
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Much less?......
This isn't football. You don't have to be in a P5 football conference to be a contender in basketball.
Now again, if you said Princeton, I would follow your narrative. We should not be watching at home while Princeton (or St. Peter's) is in the Sweet 16. That's why Fran needs to go.
We are in agreement
- McDermott has achieved much more than Fran, with much fewer resources
- Princeton has achieved much more than Fran with even fewer assets
- everyteam that has gotten to S16 in last 13 years has achieved much more than Fran
It was done intentionally. Baylor players have commented that it was a play that they used to run,
B12 teams caught on quick, so MSU probably didn't see it on the scout.
They recruit athletes, and their coaches install a culture of playing tough man to man D. Nothing more to it.
Creighton has much better resources than Iowa basketball and it’s not even close. Look at where Creighton plays it’s home games and it’s new practice facility. I mean I know as Iowa fans we try and spin Carver as some great arena, when it’s really just old and outdated. As far as recruiting, wasn’t Iowa’s expenditure on basketball recruiting shockingly low? Don’t know what the budget was. Anyone that thinks Iowa has more or better basketball resources than a Creighton, Villanova, or Gonzaga just because they don’t have power 5 football, doesn’t know how it works.
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This is true.
The average close to 20k in attendance.
They outbid a number of suitors last spring to get Bailey whathisname from South Dakota..he was expensive.
Not sure what Mac's secret is on recruiting but he always seems to get a nice mix of Texas guys, foreign guys and Midwest guys.
I have to think that being in Omaha helps with urban guys along with the BIG East.
It predates those years. I'm still pissed that we lost in the tournament to Idaho
