99.9 percent of the time those conditions are identified in early pregnancy, again there is not a health condition that Requires a later term abortion, the baby can always be delivered
Kari Lake: "you can go three hours that way, three hours that way, and you're going to be able to have an abortion."
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The electoral college is DEI for republicans.
You not accepting them doesn't mean that medical reasons don't exist.
She is an absolute fraud. A windsock. Has no concern of helping the people of her state. Just seeking money and power.
Really. Do tell your reasoning here.
It’s widely believed in many quarters that registered Republican males are sterile, therefore they cannot father children …they have no balls.
Well I guess we agree on this, at least as long as the states don't try to infringe on people's national rights.
Do you agree on that point?
You just said that 99.9% of the time those conditions are identified earlier. You understand 99.9 is not 100 right?
I already did there is not one medical reason where a late term abortion must be made in order to save the life or health of the mom
Cite your sources in this. I have seen many cases where a late term abortion is needed when complications arise to save the life of the mother.
Of course there is. I gave you a list. Some women will choose to sacrifice their own life to attempt to save their child's life. Other women will choose to terminate their pregnancy to attempt to save their own life. It's a horrible choice either way but one made necessary by medical conditions that threaten one or both of them. The facts aren't on your side with this one.
Well, you used the term "national rights".
Now that we've agreed the correct term is "constitutional rights", which states do you believe are infringing on those rights? And specifically, which rights?
Those conditions you described do not inherently cause risk to the mother; the molar pregnancy is not by most accounts is not even an embryo and is considered a tumor, which does not fall under abortion, the placenta accrena treatment is typically surgery, during which such surgery it is not necessary to kill the baby but can rather save it if performed under the time frame of late term abortion
You are also implying that having an abortion is 100% safe, which of course it is not, a female can risk their life and other health complications simply by having an abortion
Good point.
But, let's dig a little deeper.
Can any state rescind a right from an out of state person that is guaranteed by the Constitution? And if so, why? Can a "state" law supercede a constitutional right/law?
If so, we just may be arriving at the crux of the matter.
What do you contend to be the "constitional right" that you're referring to in this scenario?
Late term abortion is a political term, not a medical one. Sure, there are times where those conditions do not risk the mother's health or life to an extent where abortion needs to be considered. Which does nothing to help the mothers who find themselves facing a decision about who lives and who doesn't
You just claimed 0.1%
Of 300k pregnancies, that's at least in the dozens - if not several hundred, Cletus. And probably more common than you realize.
Considering you are a "patient advocate" nurse, who does no actual nurse-work and has zero experience in pre-natal care, your opinion here holds about as much merit as Kari Lake's...
You got schooled by a female lawyer on this one, Cletus.
It is safer than pregnancy and carrying to term. In many (if not the majority) of cases.
That can be treated with medications, now if the mother has eclampsia the best treatment is to deliver the baby, you don’t have to kill it
And those mothers have had plenty of time to make a decision prior to the fetus being viable outside the womb
You have utterly no clue "how much time" some of them have had to make a decision.
Pregnancies can become non-viable quickly.
The "unintended consequences" of banning abortions: women miscarrying who cannot access ER care because they cannot get regular care before their situations go 'critical'...
