One casino for the folks from Illinois
What about Balleys in Moline? Can you not think of other casinos that may lose out for the people of Illinois?
One casino for the folks from Illinois
Cedar Rapids is a shit hole. And don't you try to say it's not.Shhh. Those instances don't hinder the other casino. Only a CR casino would wipe out every other casino in Iowa.
I fail to see what's wrong with the added competition. Sure at some point "capacity" will be reached but that should be decided by the free market, not lawmakers.
And that’s not what they’re doing and you know it. Casino lobbyists have been selling them this because they don’t want the competition.It's not a free market,.. The state decides where gaming can occur and have the best chance of survival by issuance of gaming licenses,.. It's not in the State's interest to introduce financial failure and instability to the in-state gaming market...
It's up to existing casinos to improve their businesses to attract customers.It's not a free market,.. The state decides where gaming can occur and have the best chance of survival by issuance of gaming licenses,.. It's not in the State's interest to introduce financial failure and instability to the in-state gaming market...
Show me one study that a casino in Cedar Rapids would lead to failure of any casinos.It's not a free market,.. The state decides where gaming can occur and have the best chance of survival by issuance of gaming licenses,.. It's not in the State's interest to introduce financial failure and instability to the in-state gaming market...
Show me one study that a casino in Cedar Rapids would lead to failure of any casinos.
Goalposts sure got moved.It's not going to happen and to be honest with you Cedar Rapids should accept this as a blessing,.. The casino business in Iowa is stale and becoming passe,.. Most of the active casinos are branching out into more diverse attractions while their gaming floors remain populated with cigarette smoking social security recipients,.. Cedar Rapids should do a non-casino entertainment venue,.. It's not about the gaming anymore.
Goalposts sure got moved.
Not what you were arguing earlier. So yeah, you very clearly moved the goalposts.No, just a dose of reality,... Cedar Rapids should do a destination venue to compete with the casinos,.. It just shouldn't be built on top of a tired old gaming concept,.. Iowa gaming floors are becoming Facebook.
Not what you were arguing earlier. So yeah, you very clearly moved the goalposts.
Your first post on this thread.Cedar Rapids spent too many years saying they didn't want a casino,.. When they finally changed their mind the local gaming industry was already built to capacity...
You did change your argument - first you said the gaming industry was at capacity…now you’re saying they don’t deserve/want a casino.No,.. CR doesn't deserve a casino and CR shouldn't want a casino,.. Both can be true and I can argue both simultaneously.
Your first post on this thread.
You did change your argument - first you said the gaming industry was at capacity…now you’re saying they don’t deserve/want a casino.
Both cannot be true here.
Don’t agree at all that casinos are dying out.Gaming capacity is why CR doesn't deserve a casino,.. Both can most definitely be true,.. They shouldn't want a traditional casino because it a dying concept...
You can't just start building a casino like a gas station or grocery store, you NEED state approval and a state license.Show me one study that a casino in Cedar Rapids would lead to failure of any casinos.
KGANShow me one study that a casino in Cedar Rapids would lead to failure of any casinos.
So all the revenue estimates they just pulled out of their ass? If Riverside lost 10% of their revenue they'd go out of business?You can't just start building a casino like a gas station or grocery store, you NEED state approval and a state license.
Show me one study that it wouldn't cause lost jobs. ( see how that works 😆)
Again would that make Riverside unprofitable?KGAN
Market studies found the 2014 casino proposal would have brought in $81 Million a year, but nearly $60 Million would come from existing casinos. Riverside was estimated to lose at least $25 Million a year alone.
Here's a 95 page report, knock yourself out.Show me one study that a casino in Cedar Rapids would lead to failure of any casinos.
More than twice that pct.So all the revenue estimates they just pulled out of their ass? If Riverside lost 10% of their revenue they'd go out of business?
I'm not sure why we have a gaming commission at this point. Legislature seems to want to control this and not anyone else do their job anyway.
Loss of revenue does not = failure and go out of business.Here's a 95 page report, knock yourself out.
Pair of studies offer mixed views on Iowa gaming market
A pair of studies examining the Iowa gaming market – and the impact of a proposed new Cedar Rapids casino complex on that market – are painting a mixedcorridorbusiness.com
Sue the state gaming commission, let us know how that turns out.Loss of revenue does not = failure and go out of business.
Kehl calculated that contributing to certain legislator's campaign funds was cheaper than lost gaming revenue.More than twice that pct.
So they’d make less in profits, not lose money, yes?KGAN
Market studies found the 2014 casino proposal would have brought in $81 Million a year, but nearly $60 Million would come from existing casinos. Riverside was estimated to lose at least $25 Million a year alone.
So they’d make less in profits, not lose money, yes?
My guess is Riverside has already seen that and then some.You do understand that it's not necessary to actually go into the red to force a business closure?,.. People don't stick their necks out and start something like a casino simply for the fun of it,.. There is the expectation of a minimum acceptable return on investment.
My guess is Riverside has already seen that and then some.
These casinos all operate with a healthy profit margin. I question the assumption that a casino in Cedar Rapids would drive one in Iowa city out of business.You do understand that it's not necessary to actually go into the red to force a business closure?,.. People don't stick their necks out and start something like a casino simply for the fun of it,.. There is the expectation of a minimum acceptable return on investment.
Riverside adjusted gross revenue grew from $87 million in 2014 to $131 million in 2023. Seems like a lot more than minimal acceptable growth.You do understand that it's not necessary to actually go into the red to force a business closure?,.. People don't stick their necks out and start something like a casino simply for the fun of it,.. There is the expectation of a minimum acceptable return on investment.
Riverside adjusted gross revenue grew from $87 million in 2014 to $131 million in 2023. Seems like a lot more than minimal acceptable growth.
It's amazing that other casinos aren't even close to that kind of growth ..and yet none seem to be closing.That's roughly a 5% per annum growth rate,.. Given inflation, that would be about what would be necessary to maintain their original business model,.. They're basically hanging in there.
It's amazing that other casinos aren't even close to that kind of growth ..and yet none seem to be closing.
Sarcasm?That's roughly a 5% per annum growth rate,.. Given inflation, that would be about what would be necessary to maintain their original business model,.. They're basically hanging in there.