KemDawg V Nolf
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Just so everyone knows what will happen in the next poll.
1: Some Iowa posters pick the Iowa guy no matter what (Complete Homer pick) and some actually give their honest opinion
2: PSU posters come over and some offer their honest opinion and others troll to get responses because they are the douchebags of that fanbase
3: Tognetti comes in late to throw one Cowpoke jab into the mix
In the end nobody knows who will win but I would have to go with Nolf based off last years resume but things do happen unexpectedly
P.S. Who on these boards regardless of allegiance would have picked IMAR as NCAA champ two years ago. Ness, Green, Miller, Jordan and even Alton ahead of him at the beginning of the year. My guess nobody!
1: Some Iowa posters pick the Iowa guy no matter what (Complete Homer pick) and some actually give their honest opinion
2: PSU posters come over and some offer their honest opinion and others troll to get responses because they are the douchebags of that fanbase
3: Tognetti comes in late to throw one Cowpoke jab into the mix
In the end nobody knows who will win but I would have to go with Nolf based off last years resume but things do happen unexpectedly
P.S. Who on these boards regardless of allegiance would have picked IMAR as NCAA champ two years ago. Ness, Green, Miller, Jordan and even Alton ahead of him at the beginning of the year. My guess nobody!
Sorry, didn't mean to make it personal. My inner statistician took control of the keyboard momentarily. Support away!
That's not entirely true. Nolf was with Rob Waller's All American Wrestling Club until maybe his Sophomore year of high school. This is where everyone in the Pittsburgh area went before Young Guns was born. (Jimmy Gulibon, Solomon Chishko, Jason Nolf, Michael Kemerer, and Sammy Krivus) just to name a few. http://triblive.com/x/leadertimes/sports/s_620407.html
I just looked at the PAJW brackets from 2009. http://escapesports.com/2009-PJW/ WOW!!!! So Kemerer was at 11-12 85lbs and Nolf was at 11-12 80lbs. Both won their respective state championship brackets. Nolf beat Sam Krivus (Virginia) in the finals 5-1, but I couldnt stop laughing as I scrolled through the bracket and recognized a ton of names that are currently wrestling at the D-1 level.
Nolf-PSU
Krivus-Virginia
Walter-Lehigh
Gromacki-Clarion
Vath-Edinboro
Stewart-West Point
Young-Iowa
Kemerer beat fellow Franklin Regional star Josh Maruca (Arizona State) 1-0 in the finals. I don't think this this bracket was as loaded as the 80lb one, but it still contained:
Kemerer-Iowa
Maruca-AZ St
Duggan-West Virginia
Lukowich-Kent St.
That doesn't include the guys currently wrestling at the D-II or D-III level either from either bracket. I couldnt find anywhere from 2007-2011 in the state brackets that they wrestled. I'm sure they wrestled at some camps or some open tournaments beings they where usually only a bracket apart from each other.
Also Vincenzo Joseph was with Sunny Abe @ Pittbull wrestling club his whole time as a youth. Almost none of the guys Needanap mentioned wrestled for Young Guns until their High School careers.
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I think itll be entertaining, but Nolf is the obvious favorite. You gotta figure Kemdawg gets at least a couple cracks at him, maybe he closes the distance as the year goes on. There were many who predicted Nolf as the next 4 timer after sticking IMar. Then reality set in....twice. Im picking Nolf by 4-5 points. 11-6, 12-7 something like that.
Im 100% positive Kemmerer would tech-fall Nick Hall..
papride- I agree with your comments regarding Rob Waller and the other WPA coaches. Kemerer and Nolf were
together in their early years with Waller and others then later on with Young Guns. My intention wasn't to slight those other coaches and programs as they certainly were instrumental in the early years for all of them.
My guess for that same year Pletcher and Philippi may have been in the 9 - 10 bracket around those weights as well
Jab, it was a knock out punch, followed by stomp to the face (AKA Johny Hendricks).
Jab, it was a knock out punch, followed by stomp to the face (AKA Johny Hendricks).
C'mon man
Interesting pic choice considering Johnny lost that fight. Don't let me spoil your fun though, carry onJab, it was a knock out punch, followed by stomp to the face (AKA Johny Hendricks).
That's what I'm thinking. Kemdawg is a honey badger that doesn't care about anything. He will put on a TD clinic on Nolf.I think Nolf is good enough to hold Kemerer to a regular decision
Interesting pic choice considering Johnny lost that fight. Don't let me spoil your fun though, carry on
Anybody who actually watched that fight know who the real winner was. I hated Hendricks his entire college career and still don't cheer for him, but he beat the daylights out of GSP that night. Just calling it how I saw it.
NeoHawk if you are setting the line at Nolf +9, I will happily empty out my checking, savings, 403b, take the penalty for withdrawing all the funds from my Roth IRA, and sell my house to put it all on Nolf +9.
I'm cheering for Kem all day and I think it will be more competitive than most people are thinking, but as of right now Nolf is the favorite on paper. I wouldn't be shocked to see either guy get his hand raised though.
Considering the crazy things that happen in college wrestling.. betting your whole life's work on a match between a couple young bucks seems foolish. Injuries, Flu, bad ref interference, getting caught on your back etc..
I was just enjoying all the bantering back and forth and began to think......always risky on my part.
If Cael had known Joseph would grow to 165 it's possible that Cael would have gone after Kemerer hard and Iowa may have ended up with Joseph and Iowa might have a log jam with Joseph and Marinelli! After watching Kemerer and Joseph's AAA state finals match I wasn't sure if there was any loser and I was on board landing either. If Nolf grows into 165 it will be a monumental cut for Cenzo. Here's hoping Nolf can maintain 157 till he graduates.
Regardless, The next few years should be great for wrestling!
If Cael had known Joseph would grow to 165 it's possible that Cael would have gone after Kemerer hard and Iowa may have ended up with Joseph and Iowa might have a log jam with Joseph and Marinelli! After watching Kemerer and Joseph's AAA state finals match I wasn't sure if there was any loser and I was on board landing either. If Nolf grows into 165 it will be a monumental cut for Cenzo. Here's hoping Nolf can maintain 157 till he graduates.
Regardless, The next few years should be great for wrestling!
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I love Kemdowg..I am so rooting for him and I voted he will close the gap as the season goes on. I do not believe he can close the gap on Nolf this season, but will go out on a limb and say I believe he will beat Jo Jo at Nationals if they meet!!!What a bunch of Homers over here. The only one taking it to Nolf this season is Joe Smith OSU.
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