Kris’s growth

[youflog1hawk]

Kris is becoming a real good player, but to match Keegan he has to improve his ability to drive right and finish with his right hand.
I’m not sure why Keegan is so adept using both hands and Kris is not but I hope that changes next year. Both are great Hawkeyes.

 

[perryhawk]

Kris is becoming a real good player, but to match Keegan he has to improve his ability to drive right and finish with his right hand.
I’m not sure why Keegan is so adept using both hands and Kris is not but I hope that changes next year. Both are great Hawkeyes.

Yeah it’s hard to know some of these things…. I am certain that some of it is mental and confidence.

I think what could be interesting is if Keegan moves on to the NBA (anticipated) and Kris steps into that starting role after an off season knowing he won’t be playing with his brother…..how much drive and motivation to improve drove that off season? Then, how does being the starter and a different set of expectations affect his play?

I think he will be better and more assertive in that position than he is now….but not as dominant as Keegan is.

 

[ObeseMuffins]

If I were Kris, I’m testing the NBA waters this year.

 

[PHawkKenyon]

Yeah it’s hard to know some of these things…. I am certain that some of it is mental and confidence.

I think what could be interesting is if Keegan moves on to the NBA (anticipated) and Kris steps into that starting role after an off season knowing he won’t be playing with his brother…..how much drive and motivation to improve drove that off season? Then, how does being the starter and a different set of expectations affect his play?

I think he will be better and more assertive in that position than he is now….but not as dominant as Keegan is.

Easy answer. Both are dominant left handed. I too am left handed. I was taught to shoot right handed by my HS coach (RIP Coach Turner) because he didn’t know I was left handed. I started with a horrible 2 handed jumper. I tried to switch both of them, thinking if people believed they were right handed, they would force them left, this to their strong hand. Kris is stubborn. 😂. He didn’t take to it like Keegan, so you see that in their games.

I know the only difference between the two is above the shoulders. They both have roles this year. When Kris was the focus of our offense at Prairie (Junior year) he averaged 16pt, 5rb, 2st, 1blk and shot 44fg%, 33 3pt% and 91ft% while Keegan averaged 12pt, 4rb and shot 39fg%, 37 3pt% and 88ft%. Not a huge difference but he dominated in that role and carried us most of the season as our “go to”. Keegan believes he is the best player in the country and Kris knows he has that in him. I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

 

[Farleyhawk]

Thanks for the information Kenyon! You have done a great job with your two sons! It has been fun watching them grow as Hawkeyes!!

 

[Rudolph]

Easy answer. Both are dominant left handed. I too am left handed. I was taught to shoot right handed by my HS coach (RIP Coach Turner) because he didn’t know I was left handed. I started with a horrible 2 handed jumper. I tried to switch both of them, thinking if people believed they were right handed, they would force them left, this to their strong hand. Kris is stubborn. 😂. He didn’t take to it like Keegan, so you see that in their games.

I know the only difference between the two is above the shoulders. They both have roles this year. When Kris was the focus of our offense at Prairie (Junior year) he averaged 16pt, 5rb, 2st, 1blk and shot 44fg%, 33 3pt% and 91ft% while Keegan averaged 12pt, 4rb and shot 39fg%, 37 3pt% and 88ft%. Not a huge difference but he dominated in that role and carried us most of the season as our “go to”. Keegan believes he is the best player in the country and Kris knows he has that in him. I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

As someone who loved Sleepy Sam Perkins’ game, I’m glad Kris is stubborn. That lefty release makes me smile a bit every time.

 

[jdv77]

I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

Looking forward to that time. I hope it starts during a long tournament run this year.

 

[hawkjt]

Whatever training was employed by Kenyon with his sons, it has resulted in two players with beautiful shooting mechanics, whichever hand they use.
At times I do think that opponents might lose track of strong hand of these two and do not overplay Kris's left as much as they intend.
Interesting developmental story from their father.

 

[Jizzer]

Easy answer. Both are dominant left handed. I too am left handed. I was taught to shoot right handed by my HS coach (RIP Coach Turner) because he didn’t know I was left handed. I started with a horrible 2 handed jumper. I tried to switch both of them, thinking if people believed they were right handed, they would force them left, this to their strong hand. Kris is stubborn. 😂. He didn’t take to it like Keegan, so you see that in their games.

I know the only difference between the two is above the shoulders. They both have roles this year. When Kris was the focus of our offense at Prairie (Junior year) he averaged 16pt, 5rb, 2st, 1blk and shot 44fg%, 33 3pt% and 91ft% while Keegan averaged 12pt, 4rb and shot 39fg%, 37 3pt% and 88ft%. Not a huge difference but he dominated in that role and carried us most of the season as our “go to”. Keegan believes he is the best player in the country and Kris knows he has that in him. I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

I would just like to thank you ahead of time for talking Keegan into staying next year. NCAA champs baby!!

 

[HawkLogic]

Interesting training lesson. Really helps to be born a left hander in basketball to end up ambidextrous. Seems like it is possible that Kris may end up the better pure shooter from 3pt line using his dominant natural hand.

Seeing both Murrays out on court at same time is reallly fun as a fan, because they are both making plays on offense and defense.

Having Devyn Marble and Garza for retiring uniform ceremony and blowing out MSU, very entertaining game.

 

[amahawk]

Easy answer. Both are dominant left handed. I too am left handed. I was taught to shoot right handed by my HS coach (RIP Coach Turner) because he didn’t know I was left handed. I started with a horrible 2 handed jumper. I tried to switch both of them, thinking if people believed they were right handed, they would force them left, this to their strong hand. Kris is stubborn. 😂. He didn’t take to it like Keegan, so you see that in their games.

I know the only difference between the two is above the shoulders. They both have roles this year. When Kris was the focus of our offense at Prairie (Junior year) he averaged 16pt, 5rb, 2st, 1blk and shot 44fg%, 33 3pt% and 91ft% while Keegan averaged 12pt, 4rb and shot 39fg%, 37 3pt% and 88ft%. Not a huge difference but he dominated in that role and carried us most of the season as our “go to”. Keegan believes he is the best player in the country and Kris knows he has that in him. I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

I have wondered about what age you realized that your sons could get the best of you one on one? Maybe not yet?

 

[goodbyebobby]

As someone who loved Sleepy Sam Perkins’ game, I’m glad Kris is stubborn. That lefty release makes me smile a bit every time.

It is pretty.

 

[perryhawk]

Easy answer. Both are dominant left handed. I too am left handed. I was taught to shoot right handed by my HS coach (RIP Coach Turner) because he didn’t know I was left handed. I started with a horrible 2 handed jumper. I tried to switch both of them, thinking if people believed they were right handed, they would force them left, this to their strong hand. Kris is stubborn. 😂. He didn’t take to it like Keegan, so you see that in their games.

I know the only difference between the two is above the shoulders. They both have roles this year. When Kris was the focus of our offense at Prairie (Junior year) he averaged 16pt, 5rb, 2st, 1blk and shot 44fg%, 33 3pt% and 91ft% while Keegan averaged 12pt, 4rb and shot 39fg%, 37 3pt% and 88ft%. Not a huge difference but he dominated in that role and carried us most of the season as our “go to”. Keegan believes he is the best player in the country and Kris knows he has that in him. I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

Thank you so much for that insight......On behalf of all of our fans I hope that you are having the time of your life watching your kids succeed at such a high level. I know how much fun I had watching mine succeed at a significantly lower level....

 

[BigOHawk]

The Keegan 'flex' to his buddy Garza after the 'and 1' is about as much emotion as you'll ever see out of either Murray brother, which is pretty cool. Maybe just once (perhaps after the OSU flush) I'd like to see him let a big yell but that's not in either of their personas.

 

[Titanhawk2]

If I were Kris, I’m testing the NBA waters this year.

I don't think there is much of a test. ALL mock drafts have him from #7-#14. At this point it is just a decision

 

[FranklinHawk]

I don't think there is much of a test. ALL mock drafts have him from #7-#14. At this point it is just a decision

You're thinking of Keegan, not Kris.

 

[the24fan]

I think Kris will stay one more year. The evil genius FM planned it that way. Play him a bit less, keep the hype down about him so you can have one Murray next year. Kris becomes this years Keegan next season. Book it....

 

[BigOHawk]

I think Kris will stay one more year. The evil genius FM planned it that way. Play him a bit less, keep the hype down about him so you can have one Murray next year. Kris becomes this years Keegan next season. Book it....

 

[youflog1hawk]

Easy answer. Both are dominant left handed. I too am left handed. I was taught to shoot right handed by my HS coach (RIP Coach Turner) because he didn’t know I was left handed. I started with a horrible 2 handed jumper. I tried to switch both of them, thinking if people believed they were right handed, they would force them left, this to their strong hand. Kris is stubborn. 😂. He didn’t take to it like Keegan, so you see that in their games.

I know the only difference between the two is above the shoulders. They both have roles this year. When Kris was the focus of our offense at Prairie (Junior year) he averaged 16pt, 5rb, 2st, 1blk and shot 44fg%, 33 3pt% and 91ft% while Keegan averaged 12pt, 4rb and shot 39fg%, 37 3pt% and 88ft%. Not a huge difference but he dominated in that role and carried us most of the season as our “go to”. Keegan believes he is the best player in the country and Kris knows he has that in him. I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

Thanks for answering the question! It’s nice to know you are on top of it not just now but in the past. Even then having sons that are respectful enough to listen to dad says a lot about your family. Go Hawks!

 

[ChiPackHawk]

As someone who loved Sleepy Sam Perkins’ game, I’m glad Kris is stubborn. That lefty release makes me smile a bit every time.

That's funny - I was wondering where I had seen that before but you're absolutely correct!

 

[BBptg5]

Easy answer. Both are dominant left handed. I too am left handed. I was taught to shoot right handed by my HS coach (RIP Coach Turner) because he didn’t know I was left handed. I started with a horrible 2 handed jumper. I tried to switch both of them, thinking if people believed they were right handed, they would force them left, this to their strong hand. Kris is stubborn. 😂. He didn’t take to it like Keegan, so you see that in their games.

I know the only difference between the two is above the shoulders. They both have roles this year. When Kris was the focus of our offense at Prairie (Junior year) he averaged 16pt, 5rb, 2st, 1blk and shot 44fg%, 33 3pt% and 91ft% while Keegan averaged 12pt, 4rb and shot 39fg%, 37 3pt% and 88ft%. Not a huge difference but he dominated in that role and carried us most of the season as our “go to”. Keegan believes he is the best player in the country and Kris knows he has that in him. I know Kris can be dominant in his own way when called to do it. In due time.

Hello Kenyon from Dre’s Iowa dad

 

[Hawks2405]

Remember when the board melted down when Fran offered them? Man, we are all a bunch of morons. Thank goodness we have both. Our most sincere apologies, Murray family! They are fantastic.

 

[24 so far]

The Keegan 'flex' to his buddy Garza after the 'and 1' is about as much emotion as you'll ever see out of either Murray brother, which is pretty cool. Maybe just once (perhaps after the OSU flush) I'd like to see him let a big yell but that's not in either of their personas.

Anything that relates to an over the top "look at me" moment, is a bad look IMO. Emotion is great, over the top emotion not so much (Keegan "flex" is not over the top IMO - it was hard to notice for some I'm guessing). But relative to those over the top moments regardless of the Sport, we all saw it and you didn't invent it. Get on with playing the game. And and stay off my damn lawn too! 😏

That's the beauty of the Murray Twins, they show some minor emotion from time to time, whether a good or bad outcome. That gains them respect from friend or foe. They might be going haywire on the inside, but you'd never know it. Calm under fire, or so it appears, one hell of a trait in my book.

As far as I'm concerned there should be a National Campaign with these two as the pseudo Poster Child for how to conduct yourself as a competitor in an athletic event, no matter the age group (you could throw in Iowa Wrestling great Spencer Lee in with them, all on the same campus). They're priceless, hope they never change.

 

[hawkifann]

Anything that relates to an over the top "look at me" moment, is a bad look IMO. Emotion is great, over the top emotion not so much (Keegan "flex" is not over the top IMO - it was hard to notice for some I'm guessing). But relative to those over the top moments regardless of the Sport, we all saw it and you didn't invent it. Get on with playing the game. And and stay off my damn lawn too! 😏

That's the beauty of the Murray Twins, they show some minor emotion from time to time, whether a good or bad outcome. That gains them respect from friend or foe. They might be going haywire on the inside, but you'd never know it. Calm under fire, or so it appears, one hell of a trait in my book.

As far as I'm concerned there should be a National Campaign with these two as the pseudo Poster Child for how to conduct yourself as a competitor in an athletic event, no matter the age group (you could throw in Iowa Wrestling great Spencer Lee in with them, all on the same campus). They're priceless, hope they never change.

I loved the Garza flex for a couple reasons - it’s fun to see a little emotion sometimes, but primarily because you could tell by the brief grin after that he was doing it in tribute to Garza, who was sitting right there. A nice tip of the cap to an old teammate.