Kudos to UI for recognizing Frank Holbrook

[JRHawk2003]

I ride the UI a lot, but I want to be fair and am glad to see Frank Holbrook put in the Hall of Fame. Good moment.

Also, I like the Duke Slater Field thing, but lets just go to Kinnick-Slater Stadium.

Duke represents everything we want to see there; On probably the best Iowa team of all time. Became a noted judge. Nile Kinnick's place is not lessened in our heritage by elevating this great Iowan.

 

[ICHerky]

The field name is fine, do NOT rename the stadium.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

It should have been named Kinnick-Slater stadium when it was name Kinnick Stadium.

 

[JRHawk2003]

It should have been named Kinnick-Slater stadium when it was name Kinnick Stadium.

Well, you can still do it now. Just take the last step. No one normal will object.

 

[z_ape]

I ride the UI a lot, but I want to be fair and am glad to see Frank Holbrook put in the Hall of Fame. Good moment.

Also, I like the Duke Slater Field thing, but lets just go to Kinnick-Slater Stadium.

Duke represents everything we want to see there; On probably the best Iowa team of all time. Became a noted judge. Nile Kinnick's place is not lessened in our heritage by elevating this great Iowan.

I wouldn't change the name. Long tradition with that name.

And in a way, it's not so much about the exact qualifications of the person to me. You could probably generate a list with lots of names that rise to their level of meaningfulness. It's about time and tradition. I don't like to disrupt those because they're not easy to achieve.

 

[JRHawk2003]

I wouldn't change the name. Long tradition with that name.

And in a way, it's not so much about the exact qualifications of the person to me. You could probably generate a list with lots of names that rise to their level of meaningfulness. It's about time and tradition. I don't like to disrupt those because they're not easy to achieve.

What?

This guy is already well known in Iowa lore. When I was a kid I used to pour over Bert McGrane's 75 Years with the Fighting Hawkeyes. Thats how I learned of him. He was on an undefeated team that broke ND's 2+ year winning streak. This guy was a one man line for us. There is a great photo of him taking out 3 guys. Cal Jones is great also, but Duke...man....come on

BTW....its pathetic that the UI isnt doing something special for the 100th anniversary of that team. Probably the best Iowa team of all time.

 

[cigaretteman]

Incidentally, Quinn Early has made a film about HolbrooK: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/quinn-early-film-on-frank-“kinney’’-holbrook.366989/

 

[Urohawk]

What?

This guys is already well known in Iowa lore. When I was a kid I used to pour over Bert McGrane's 75 Years with the Fighting Hawkeyes. Thats how I learned of him. He was on an undefeated team that broke ND's 2+ year winning streak. This guy was a one man line for us. There is a great photo of him taking out 3 guys. Cal Jones is great also, but Duke...man....come on

BTW....its pathetic that the UI isnt doing something special for the 100th anniversary of that team. Probably the best Iowa team of all time.

Great picture:

Sculpture seems to capture it well:

 

[UNIowaHawk]

It should have been named Kinnick-Slater stadium when it was name Kinnick Stadium.

Why? Nile Kinnick was widely considered the best player in Iowa history followed by Chuck Long, Alex Karras, Larry Station, and Cal Jones.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Why? Nile Kinnick was widely considered the best player in Iowa history followed by Chuck Long, Alex Karras, Larry Station, and Carl Jones.

Its Cal Jones and wrong.

Aubrey Devine and Duke Slater are right up there. They led undefeated teams.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Why? Nile Kinnick was widely considered the best player in Iowa history followed by Chuck Long, Alex Karras, Larry Station, and Carl Jones.

As with most everything else, you knowledge of history isn't very good. 1921, 1st big 10 championship, and probably the best team in the nation, had they had such a thing them. Duke Slater, Aubrey Devine, Lester Belding were All-Americans.

 

[gojojo]

Incidentally, Quinn Early has made a film about HolbrooK: https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/quinn-early-film-on-frank-“kinney’’-holbrook.366989/

Quinn's doc is what set the HOF induction in motion.

 

[UNIowaHawk]

As with most everything else, you knowledge of history isn't very good. 1921, 1st big 10 championship, and probably the best team in the nation, had they had such a thing them. Duke Slater, Aubrey Devine, Lester Belding were All-Americans.

Maybe it's my knowledge of history and everyone else's except yours? I am having a hard time finding any source that doesn't put Nile Kinnick , Chuck Long, Alex Karras, Larry Station, Paul Krause, Bob Jeter, Emlen Tunnell, and Cal Jones in the top 5-10 players of all-time for Iowa. I haven't seen one that has Duke Slater. This isn't intended to be a slight to Duke Slater at all.

Not saying these are be all end all, but only rankings I see per google (not best Iowa players in NFL).
#29:

Iowa football: 30 greatest players in Hawkeyes history

The Iowa football program is filled with incredible tradition, rich history and great players. Here are the top 30 Hawkeyes of all time.

dearoldgold.com

Not Top 10:
Link

Not Top 10:
Link

Not Top 10:

Iowa Hawkeyes' 10 best players of all time

www.sportingnews.com

Behind Nile Kinnick #5, Chuck Long #16, Alex Karras #26, Cal Jones #29 as Best Big Ten Players of All-Time:

Big Ten Football: Ranking the 30 best players of all time

As the dean of Power Five conferences, Big Ten football has been around for a long time. Who cracks the list of the top 30 players ever?

saturdayblitz.com

But again, my history and all of these lack knowledge of Iowa Football history, but yours is correct.

 

[BlackNGoldWings]

I ride the UI a lot, but I want to be fair and am glad to see Frank Holbrook put in the Hall of Fame. Good moment.

Also, I like the Duke Slater Field thing, but lets just go to Kinnick-Slater Stadium.

Duke represents everything we want to see there; On probably the best Iowa team of all time. Became a noted judge. Nile Kinnick's place is not lessened in our heritage by elevating this great Iowan.

Frank Holbrook: Here is the post-game article in the Vidette-Reporter (precursor of The Daily Iowan) describing the 1896 game at Missouri, a game that contributed to Iowa's later refusal to play Missouri for a very long time, 100 years, in fact..

 

[HawkMachine]

Well, you can still do it now. Just take the last step. No one normal will object.

I would guess the majority WILL object. Terrible idea to rename the stadium which is why they never will.

 

[JRHawk2003]

I would guess the majority WILL object. Terrible idea to rename the stadium which is why they never will.

Why is it so terrible? No one is removing Kinnick's name.

 

[NewVicHawkeye]

In 1946 a group put together a list of the top 11 players from the first 50 years of college football. Duke Slater was among the 11.

 

[HawkMachine]

Why is it so terrible? No one is removing Kinnick's name.

Why is it necessary to add another name?

Where does it end?

20 years from now:

“The Michigan Wolverines head to Kinnick Slater Duncan Podolak Petras Stadium to face the #1 ranked Iowa Hawkeyes”.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Maybe it's my knowledge of history and everyone else's except yours? I am having a hard time finding any source that doesn't put Nile Kinnick , Chuck Long, Alex Karras, Larry Station, Paul Krause, Bob Jeter, Emlen Tunnell, and Cal Jones in the top 5-10 players of all-time for Iowa. I haven't seen one that has Duke Slater. This isn't intended to be a slight to Duke Slater at all.

Not saying these are be all end all, but only rankings I see per google (not best Iowa players in NFL).
#29:

Iowa football: 30 greatest players in Hawkeyes history

The Iowa football program is filled with incredible tradition, rich history and great players. Here are the top 30 Hawkeyes of all time.

dearoldgold.com

Not Top 10:
Link

Not Top 10:
Link

Not Top 10:

Iowa Hawkeyes' 10 best players of all time

www.sportingnews.com

Behind Nile Kinnick #5, Chuck Long #16, Alex Karras #26, Cal Jones #29 as Best Big Ten Players of All-Time:

Big Ten Football: Ranking the 30 best players of all time

As the dean of Power Five conferences, Big Ten football has been around for a long time. Who cracks the list of the top 30 players ever?

saturdayblitz.com

But again, my history and all of these lack knowledge of Iowa Football history, but yours is correct.

The Sporting News list is a joke and the other is from some rando blog. Dukes name is on the wall at Kinnick and has a campus building named after him. He had a great career as a judge so he represented the UI well for a long time. The fans voted him an all time 1st team player in 1989.

Every Hawkeye fan should read McGrane's book.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Why is it necessary to add another name?

Where does it end?

20 years from now:

“The Michigan Wolverines head to Kinnick Slater Duncan Podolak Petras Stadium to face the #1 ranked Iowa Hawkeyes”.

Dont be dense.

 

[UNIowaHawk]

The Sporting News list is a joke and the other is from some rando blog. Dukes name is on the wall at Kinnick and has a campus building named after him. He had a great career as a judge so he represented the UI well for a long time. The fans voted him an all time 1st team player in 1989.

Every Hawkeye fan should read McGrane's book.

Again, not knocking Duke Slater, but there were better players for Iowa in my opinion. I know you disagree, and that's fair, but for @CarolinaHawkeye to knock someone for offering up a few other names ahead of him and claiming their "knowledge of history isn't very good" because he disagreed with them (and numerous others rankings of Iowa's best football players) is childish.

 

[JRHawk2003]

By the way....Gus Schrader was a knob. He should get knocked down the list of Iowa journalists.

My grandpa played with Kinnick, I met Erwin Prasse and some of the others. I have been around it since I was a little kid.

I dont say this to be trendy or PC or woke. I truly believe his name belongs there.

 

[BlackNGoldWings]

I've long suspected that then-UI president Willard "Sandy" Boyd was surreptitiously trying to water down any attempt to honor Nile Kinnick by suggesting "Kinnick-Slater Stadium" for the name in 1972. (Boyd is a graduate of the University of Minnesota, a victim of Kinnick in 1939.)

 

[JRHawk2003]

I've long suspected that then-UI president Willard "Sandy" Boyd was trying to water down any attempt to honor Nile Kinnick by suggesting "Kinnick-Slater Stadium" for the name in 1972. (Boyd is a graduate of the University of Minnesota, a victim of Kinnick in 1939.)

If you know him, you would know what nonsense that is. He is one of the UI's best all time leaders. Him and Virgil Hancher.

 

[Obviously Oblivious]

Give up @JRHawk2003, it’s a losing battle you’ll never win. Linemen never get the credit they deserve and they never will.

Slater was and is a legend and is in the conversation as the GOAT Hawkeye football players by those that really know the history of the program. He’s every bit as impressive as Kinnick IMO.

 

[JRHawk2003]

Give up @JRHawk2003, it’s a losing battle you’ll never win. Linemen never get the credit they deserve and they never will.

Slater was and is a legend and is in the conversation as the GOAT Hawkeye football players by those that really know the history of the program. He’s every bit as impressive as Kinnick IMO.

Some more on Duke Slater from McGrane's book:

Glen (Pop) Warner named him to the all time All America team in 1946. Chosen by 600 sportswriters to the top 11.

More:

Fritz Crisler on Slater:

" Duke Slater was the best tackle I ever played against. I tried to block him throughout my college career but never once did I impede his progress to the ball carrier."

Also well known as a "gentleman on and off the field"

Then his career as a judge. As an African-American in the 40's to 60's in Chicago.

This is one of our best ALUMS let alone a football player.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

Why is it so terrible? No one is removing Kinnick's name.

Perhaps he feels it should still be Iowa Stadium.