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Larry Lee Full Interview

I know a snippet was posted to Twitter, but here’s the full thing. Really tough at the end. Larry is clearly a great father.
Here’s to hoping Spencer can be healthy for 2024 & beyond, and to Cathy being comfortable enough to attend matches again.

I know Larry has come on this board in the past, so if he sees this I want him to know that a large majority of wrestling fans are pulling for your wish to come true. Spencer certainly embodies doing things the right way and living a clean lifestyle. I’m hoping for a quick recovery and good health while Spencer chases his dream in 2024. I for one will never bet against that young man.
 
Larry indicated it is the US timeline and qualification procedure (with its advantages afforded to sitting world or Olympic medalists) that causedcSpencer to push the limit and compete at the US Open. But now he's looking at a reset to make the 2024 team the hard way.

This got me to think about how the US qualification procedures compares to other countries in terms of timing, competition tournaments and their lengths, and seedings or easier roads afforded sitting world or Olympic medalists.

Does an expert here know off-hand?

Then that got me to think about Myles Amine winning Bronze for San Marino, Stevan Micic competing for Serbia, Finesilvers competing internationally for Israel, and the like.

Does anyone think Spencer could go this route for 2024? Could he qualify 57kg for another country and that route be easier?

And if he did, would you root for Spencer to get Gold in 2024 over the US representative (assuming the US qualifies the weight)?
 
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Larry indicated it is the US timeline and qualification procedure (with its advantages afforded to sitting world or Olympic medalists) that causedcSpencer to push the limit and compete at the US Open. But now he's looking at a reset to make the 2024 team the hard way.

If Spencer is able to get back to anywhere near full health, I don't believe that making the team the hard way will be a problem for him. Gilman, Suriano, Richards... anyone. Line them up. He runs the table on them...if he's healthy.
 
Larry indicated it is the US timeline and qualification procedure (with its advantages afforded to sitting world or Olympic medalists) that causedcSpencer to push the limit and compete at the US Open. But now he's looking at a reset to make the 2024 team the hard way.

This got me to think about how the US qualification procedures compares to other countries in terms of timing, competition tournaments and their lengths, and seedings or easier roads afforded sitting world or Olympic medalists.

Does an expert here know off-hand?

Then that got me to think about Myles Amine winning Bronze for San Marino, Stevan Micic competing for Serbia, Finesilvers competing internationally for Israel, and the like.

Does anyone think Spencer could go this route for 2024? Could he qualify 57kg for another country and that route be easier?

And if he did, would you root for Spencer to get Gold in 2024 over the US representative (assuming the US qualifies the weight)?
Was it France that his mom competed for?

24 Olympics are in Paris. Would be surprised if he wasn’t asked about the possibility.
 
Larry indicated it is the US timeline and qualification procedure (with its advantages afforded to sitting world or Olympic medalists) that causedcSpencer to push the limit and compete at the US Open. But now he's looking at a reset to make the 2024 team the hard way.

This got me to think about how the US qualification procedures compares to other countries in terms of timing, competition tournaments and their lengths, and seedings or easier roads afforded sitting world or Olympic medalists.

Does an expert here know off-hand?

Then that got me to think about Myles Amine winning Bronze for San Marino, Stevan Micic competing for Serbia, Finesilvers competing internationally for Israel, and the like.

Does anyone think Spencer could go this route for 2024? Could he qualify 57kg for another country and that route be easier?

And if he did, would you root for Spencer to get Gold in 2024 over the US representative (assuming the US qualifies the weight)?
I think our procedure is fine. Other countries don't have a 5 month folkstyle season before their qualifying tournaments, so I don't anticipate looking at their procedures will be very helpful.
 
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I think our procedure is fine. Other countries don't have a 5 month folkstyle season before their qualifying tournaments, so I don't anticipate looking at their procedures will be very helpful.
Right, but Amine and Micic found it easier to compete in the Olympics in a non-US singlet after wrestling the preceding NCAA season.

I am in @ping72's camp, in that I wouldn't take Spencer competing for France off the table.

And the more people who are in @YoungGun07's camp, the more tenable it might be for Rudis as his sponsor for Spencer to do so.

Larry Lee highlighting the US process made me think this could be a distinct possibility for Spencer in 2024.
 
Right, but Amine and Micic found it easier to compete in the Olympics in a non-US singlet after wrestling the preceding NCAA season.

I am in @ping72's camp, in that I wouldn't take Spencer competing for France off the table.

And the more people who are in @YoungGun07's camp, the more tenable it might be for Rudis as his sponsor for Spencer to do so.

Larry Lee highlighting the US process made me think this could be a distinct possibility for Spencer in 2024.
I mean yes making the team would be easier but I would speculate that isn't a process issue more of a competition issue. I mean Gomez had to wrestle like a week after NCAA's to make Team Mexico, I would say that process wouldn't be favorable but the competition level was.
 
Was it France that his mom competed for?
Mom being from France and not attending the US Open for the reasons Larry explained.

Larry later saying she's likely to return to watch wrestling in person but now is too soon.

Paris 2024 wrestling for France, his mom back to watch for the first time since NCAAs, well that could be quite a storyline.
 
Larry gave one of the best viewpoints out there for fans that aren't really close to the innerworking of college wrestling. These guys are student athletes. Unlike football, where many may not even attend class, a lot of these guys take tough classes with full loads every semester. How much studying for an exam and maybe not getting the best result can effect their wrestling, is something never even thought of by many.

These guys aren't professional athletes where all their focus can be solely dedicated to their performance on the mat. They are in a transitional period, looking to go from boys to men. Even with the program's guidance they are the lone person in charge of so many things in their lives for the very first time. So many factors no one here would ever think of could contribute to an off performance.

I for one was very happy to see Mr. Lee be so open about not only himself, Spencer and his family, but why he thinks the Iowa coaches are 100% integrity and honesty. All the other stuff is nonsense and I am really sorry that his wife had to deal with something so ridiculous that it would make her uncomfortable to go to another wrestling event...
 
Mom being from France and not attending the US Open for the reasons Larry explained.

Larry later saying she's likely to return to watch wrestling in person but now is too soon.

Paris 2024 wrestling for France, his mom back to watch for the first time since NCAAs, well that could be quite a storyline.
What I am amazed at is these IDIOTS who think they are entitled to approach the parents of these wrestlers at the venues or hotels etc... and give them shit about their sons. That is complete trash.
 
Larry indicated it is the US timeline and qualification procedure (with its advantages afforded to sitting world or Olympic medalists) that causedcSpencer to push the limit and compete at the US Open. But now he's looking at a reset to make the 2024 team the hard way.

This got me to think about how the US qualification procedures compares to other countries in terms of timing, competition tournaments and their lengths, and seedings or easier roads afforded sitting world or Olympic medalists.

Does an expert here know off-hand?

Then that got me to think about Myles Amine winning Bronze for San Marino, Stevan Micic competing for Serbia, Finesilvers competing internationally for Israel, and the like.

Does anyone think Spencer could go this route for 2024? Could he qualify 57kg for another country and that route be easier?

And if he did, would you root for Spencer to get Gold in 2024 over the US representative (assuming the US qualifies the weight)?
His mom is French. Wonder if he'd be eligible to compete for them. He'd have no issues making the French team. Decent idea.
 
What I am amazed at is these IDIOTS who think they are entitled to approach the parents of these wrestlers at the venues or hotels etc... and give them shit about their sons. That is complete trash.

Not enough people have had to deal with consequences for the bullshit that comes out of their mouths. It's been an issue in the U.S. for awhile. The internet exacerbated it. The last president exacerbated it. It's a cultural issue and unfortunately I don't see it going away anytime soon.
 
All these idiots calling Spencer a quitter when he injury defaults out of tournaments have to be either trolls or just plain dumb as s"*t. Everyone knows he was banged up entering the US Open (and NCAA's for that matter). Why is it so difficult to comprehend that he could default out after starting the tourneys?! He is trying to go when he probably shouldn't. Isn't that the opposite of a quitter? If you jump in your car and head to work in the morning and the engine blows up half way there, are you a quitter if you don't push it the rest of the way to get to work? Such a stupid take. Take time off, get as healthy as possible, and hopefully be able to train properly to work on his gas tank. If he can accomplish this, he will have no trouble qualifying for Worlds and the Olympics. If not, it will be a struggle for even Spencer. Sorry for the rant, but some people's stupidity never ceases to amaze me. So sick of the scrutiny that Spencer has to deal with from stupid people and I'm sure it wears on him over time. I would love nothing more than to see Spencer win a gold and give a big FU to the haters out there.
 
Not enough people have had to deal with consequences for the bullshit that comes out of their mouths. It's been an issue in the U.S. for awhile. The internet exacerbated it. The last president exacerbated it. It's a cultural issue and unfortunately I don't see it going away anytime soon.
We live in a world where if you punch someone, you are committing aggravated battery and you receive complete societal scorn. That is due to everyone worrying about everyone's feelings etc. In the old days, if you said something out of line, you may get punched and everyone would think you deserved it. The response would be, "you shouldn't have said that , you idiot" or "What did you expect to happen?"

Hence, now people can say anything and with the internet, it has definitely gotten worse. I totally agree that people who give the parents crap about their kids, have no clue in regards to class or what these kids (men) go through. A punch in the face would stop a lot of that talk.

ps.. I do not want to make this a political conversation, but it is hilarious that somehow this is Trump's fault. (or partially Trump's fault)
 
We live in a world where if you punch someone, you are committing aggravated battery and you receive complete societal scorn. That is due to everyone worrying about everyone's feelings etc. In the old days, if you said something out of line, you may get punched and everyone would think you deserved it. The response would be, "you shouldn't have said that , you idiot" or "What did you expect to happen?"

Hence, now people can say anything and with the internet, it has definitely gotten worse. I totally agree that people who give the parents crap about their kids, have no clue in regards to class or what these kids (men) go through. A punch in the face would stop a lot of that talk.

ps.. I do not want to make this a political conversation, but it is hilarious that somehow this is Trump's fault. (or partially Trump's fault)
Think vodka was pointing out the fact that running your mouth without repercussions is such commonplace now, that it had even reached the leader of our nation. A lot of keyboard warriors out there unfortunately and with social media it’s only gonna get worse😬
 
I love Spencer Lee, and want him to kick ass. I suspect that he can't fully condition because of injuries--although gas tank has always been a problem (See Fix matches when he was 14). But...IMO, not a really a good interview overall. So vague and non specific. Generalities and innuendo. Minutes of repetitive non specific phrases and confusing timelines. Its Larry Lee's right to be coy and vague, and I know he just feels bad for Spencer, but its my right to be tired of everyone being so coy and vague about everything in regards to Spencer Lee. I feel terrible for their disappointment. I want him to have a great comeback. Spencer has some incredible wrestling talents. But, to those saying it was a good interview, I disagree.
 
I love Spencer Lee, and want him to kick ass. I suspect that he can't fully condition because of injuries--although gas tank has always been a problem (See Fix matches when he was 14). But...IMO, not a really a good interview overall. So vague and non specific. Generalities and innuendo. Minutes of repetitive non specific phrases and confusing timelines. Its Larry Lee's right to be coy and vague, and I know he just feels bad for Spencer, but its my right to be tired of everyone being so coy and vague about everything in regards to Spencer Lee. I feel terrible for their disappointment. I want him to have a great comeback. Spencer has some incredible wrestling talents. But, to those saying it was a good interview, I disagree.
The vagueness in regard to the specifics you refer to was like, what, the first 3-4 minutes? It was a 20 minute interview that hit on multiple topics, so I’d definitely say that ~overall~ it was good. Would it be nice as a fan if wrestling was more transparent like other sports with what the injuries are? Sure, but I’m sure Larry’s limited in what he can say based off what Spencer wants out there, and I’m not gonna be mad at Spencer if he wants to keep the details private.
 
I’ve been a FLO hater for years….. with uncle fester being gone now after that interview I’m thinking about finally giving in and getting a subscription

I thought it was a great interview and something a lot of people should listen to because sadly they don’t get simple compassion for someone else's pain…..We live in a ME ME ME society and people are so hateful they enjoy others failure…… makes them feel better about themselves I guess….. it’s all very ugly and way too common
 
Spencer needs to recover to the point where he can condition properly. If his knees are not in good enough shape to condition then they are not in good enough shape to win wrestling matches vs high level competition.
 
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