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Showing huge Biden surge. Latest DFP has Biden leading Texas and a double digit jump in California (not counting all the Amy/Pete votes he will get). Widening his lead in other states.

Looks like Joe will win the most delegates today, and is poised to run away with the delegate count. It’s over for Bernie.
 
Showing huge Biden surge. Latest DFP has Biden leading Texas and a double digit jump in California (not counting all the Amy/Pete votes he will get). Widening his lead in other states.

Looks like Joe will win the most delegates today, and is poised to run away with the delegate count. It’s over for Bernie.

Good, I will vote Biden.
 
Showing huge Biden surge. Latest DFP has Biden leading Texas and a double digit jump in California (not counting all the Amy/Pete votes he will get). Widening his lead in other states.

Looks like Joe will win the most delegates today, and is poised to run away with the delegate count. It’s over for Bernie.
Read that many voters in CA have already voted prior to the endorsements.
 
Biden doesnt even know what state he is in half the time. Anyone that listens to him for longer than a minute can tell he isnt up for being president.
And yet he would still make a better President than Trump!
If he gets the nomination he will need to choose a VP who people are seriously comfortable with stepping in for him IMHO.
 
Showing huge Biden surge. Latest DFP has Biden leading Texas and a double digit jump in California (not counting all the Amy/Pete votes he will get). Widening his lead in other states.

Looks like Joe will win the most delegates today, and is poised to run away with the delegate count. It’s over for Bernie.
Bernie lost Texas to Hillary last time, but Hillary got 74% in SC last time and Joe only got 48%. I think Bernie loses the south by still gets a boat load of delegates because I don't see Joe getting much over 50% if that.
 
Biden has jumped in the 538 forecast. They have him as the clear front runner now. Oh, and lol at the Trump supporter suddenly believing in polls.
 
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Biden doesnt even know what state he is in half the time. Anyone that listens to him for longer than a minute can tell he isnt up for being president.
I bet he does have problems. Still miles ahead of our current president. And I have this feeling that Biden will listen to advisors that are smarter than him.
 
Biden has jumped in the 538 forecast. They have him as the clear front runner now. Oh, and lol at the Trump supporter suddenly believing in polls.

Or making comments about Biden's ability to recognize his surroundings. If that's really a thing, then that should be a feature for a Trump supporter.
 
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Or making comments about Biden's ability to recognize his surroundings. If that's really a thing, then that should be a feature for a Trump supporter.
Trump thinks that windmills cause cancer, nuclear bombs will stop hurricanes, can't answer any question without some insane word salad rant against immigrants, and nods off on his tweets (covfefe). Biden could take naps until noon everyday as president and still be better than old man Trump.
 
I bet he does have problems. Still miles ahead of our current president. And I have this feeling that Biden will listen to advisors that are smarter than him.
If elected POTUS, Biden could become Strom Thurmond 2.0 when they have to wheel him in for press conferences and somebody will be assigned to change his drool buckets. But that will be just fine with the libs as their TDS gets purged if the Bad Man Orange loses.
 
If elected POTUS, Biden could become Strom Thurmond 2.0 when they have to wheel him in for press conferences and somebody will be assigned to change his drool buckets. But that will be just fine with the libs as their TDS gets purged if the Bad Man Orange loses.
Exactly. Biden could be nothing more than a drool bucket and still be better than Trump. At least he wouldn't be out golfing three days a week and trying to bribe foreign governments into jacking with our elections.
 
Bernie lost Texas to Hillary last time, but Hillary got 74% in SC last time and Joe only got 48%. I think Bernie loses the south by still gets a boat load of delegates because I don't see Joe getting much over 50% if that.

You can't compare this election which has had many many candidates to the last election that was pretty much never more than a 2 person race.

Although there does seem to be a good chance that neither candidate takes the absolute majority. Then it goes to convention. The first round of voting wouldn't produce a majority so in the 2nd round the super-delegates are allowed to join into the voting. I would say that odds are that Joe has a advantage with the super delegates who could deliver him a majority. Part of Bernie's problem is that he's only accepted the party label when running for POTUS.

I think that also means that he hasn't raised money for the campaign arms like everyone else is expected to do. So there might be a lack of loyalty to him on the basis that he didn't "pay his dues".
 
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Biden has jumped in the 538 forecast. They have him as the clear front runner now. Oh, and lol at the Trump supporter suddenly believing in polls.

Did that just change in the last 24 hours? My wife always wants to talk politics with me and I just don't have it in me, but I decided to look at 538 to see who was the favorite.
 
If elected POTUS, Biden could become Strom Thurmond 2.0 when they have to wheel him in for press conferences and somebody will be assigned to change his drool buckets. But that will be just fine with the libs as their TDS gets purged if the Bad Man Orange loses.

Thurmond married a 22 yo woman when he was 66. Go, Joe, Go!!!!!
 
Did that just change in the last 24 hours? My wife always wants to talk politics with me and I just don't have it in me, but I decided to look at 538 to see who was the favorite.
He has been trending up since Saturday but yes, he has made a HUGE jump in the past 24 hours. Especially in California. Enough so that....assuming he captures almost all Amy and Pete’s votes, he could pull out a victory. Probably won’t, but he will at least keep Bernie from taking much of a majority of delegates.
 
Trump VS Biden

That’s the best we can do.....

Glorious

Biden has always been a solid candidate.
Years ago, even guys like Lindsey Graham touted him as one of the more honest and honorable politicians.

You don't need the best speaker or the smartest guy in the room, you need someone who knows how to pick out the smart guys, delegate and listen to their advice. Biden gets pretty high marks for all of that.
 
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Did that just change in the last 24 hours? My wife always wants to talk politics with me and I just don't have it in me, but I decided to look at 538 to see who was the favorite.

Based on the latest information they have (which is limited) after the South Carolina win and the drop outs they have moved Biden to a 2 in 3 chance of winning the delegate plurality and a 3 in 10 chance of winning the outright majority to avoid the contested convention.

Sanders has dropped to a 1 in 3 chance of winning the plurality and 1 in 12 chance of winning an outright majority.

There is still a 3 in 5 chance that no one wins a outright majority.

All other candidates have been downgraded to chances of less than 1 in 100.
 
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RCP has some from yesterday and some from today. The swing to Biden is crazy.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
Bernie lost 12 points in California in ONE day. His once comfortable lead in Texas is GONE. He is now going to lose there.

Bernie may be close in delegates after today, but there are big delegate states coming up that Biden has HUGE leads in, and Biden will build an insurmountable delegate lead. By then Bernie voters will leave him in droves to jump on the Biden Bandwagon.

There won’t be a contested convention...Biden wins going away. He has too much momentum and can’t be stopped now. Unless he drops over dead.
 
Bernie lost 12 points in California in ONE day. His once comfortable lead in Texas is GONE. He is now going to lose there.

Bernie may be close in delegates after today, but the are big delegate states coming up that Biden has HUGE leads in, and Biden will build an insurmountable delegate lead. By then Bernie voters will leave him in droves to jump on the Biden Bandwagon.

There won’t be a contested convention...Biden wins going away. He has too much momentum and can’t be stopped now. Unless he drops over dead.
will the bern bros stand for this- two elections in a row of getting crapped upon?
 
two reasons to not count out bern in TX: the hippies of Austin and the artsy fartsy folks in Houston. biden may win over dallas socialites but that may not be enough
 
Maybe so, but don't underestimate how much Trump can get his supporters worked up and angry about Burisma and Ukraine.
as a trump supporter, either bern or biden is absolutely fine with me!! trump beats biden in like 47 states and bern in 49 , so either way I'm fine
 
people are thinking they shall protest and stay home and just not vote at all. maybe. they do get all butt hurt
If we have a contested convention I can see that. But that isn’t happening. Biden will have more than enough delegates going in to win.
 
If we have a contested convention I can see that. But that isn’t happening. Biden will have more than enough delegates going in to win.
he probably will after today. but some think they will then stay home to protest, in the general. maybe. because they hate trump and are mad at bern getting jacked, again.
 
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