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Latest Unease on Right: Ryan Is Too Far Left

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Far-right media figures, relatively small in number but potent in their influence, have embarked on a furious Internet expedition to cover Representative Paul D. Ryan in political silt.

In 2012 when Mitt Romney picked Mr. Ryan, Republican of Wisconsin, as his running mate, the concern among some in their party was that Mr. Ryan was too conservative, particularly when it came to overhauling social programs like Medicare and Medicaid.

Now, as he agonizes over whether to answer the appeal of his colleagues to become their next speaker, the far right is trotting out a fresh concern: Mr. Ryan is too far left.

He is being criticized on issues ranging from a 2008 vote to bail out large banks to his longstanding interest in immigration reform to his work on a bipartisan budget measure. On Sunday night, the Drudge Report — a prime driver of conservative commentary — dedicated separate headlines to bashing Mr. Ryan on policy positions.

Even a self-congratulatory book outlining how Mr. Ryan and two other Republican House leaders drafted Tea Party candidates to help them take over the House in 2010 — “Young Guns” — is being recast by some as a manual of how to be traitorous to conservatism.

“Tryouts for speaker continue,” Phyllis Schlafly, founder and chairwoman of the conservative Eagle Forum, said in a statement Friday, when Mr. Ryan was escaping Capitol Hill for the week. “The kingmakers are so desperate for someone to carry their liberal priorities that they are trying to force Congressman Paul Ryan into a job he does not want.”

The influence of conservative websites has enraged members who were once considered right of center themselves, and who are desperately trying to keep Mr. Ryan from getting spooked.

“Anyone who attacks Paul Ryan as being insufficiently conservative is either woefully misinformed or maliciously destructive,” said Representative Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma. “Paul Ryan has played a major role in advancing the conservative cause and creating the Republican House majority. His critics are not true conservatives. They are radical populists who neither understand nor accept the institutions, procedures and traditions that are the basis of constitutional governance.”

To some degree, the attacks on Mr. Ryan, so far an unwilling draft pick by his colleagues to replace Speaker John A. Boehner, reflect criticism of flashes of pragmatism by Mr. Ryan, the architect of his party’s conservative budget dogma.

Since the 2012 general election defeat, Mr. Ryan has indeed become more of a consensus builder and leader in the House, even as he has maintained his ideological tilt. He has largely voted for bills to keep the government operating and the debts paid when many other Republicans vote against them these days.

He was half the brain on a 2013 compromise with Senator Patty Murray, Democrat of Washington, to funnel more money to the government and avert two years of budget brinkmanship, even though two years earlier, he had refused to sit on the original committee that tried and failed to find a solution to the government’s financial problems.

Mr. Ryan moved this year to the chairmanship of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee from the Budget Committee because he said he wanted even greater influence on national fiscal policy, and his prescriptions are anathema to most Democrats.

But the current flak following Mr. Ryan stems from a growing and powerful collection of far-right pundits and news media — from Mark Levin to Laura Ingraham to the sites RedState and Breitbart and the new Conservative Review — that have successfully wielded influence over Republican voters and lawmakers in strongly conservative districts.

Their bill of particulars against Mr. Ryan have shifted from the national debt and spending to immigration. Lately, they have focused on Mr. Ryan’s enthusiastic support for free trade, traditionally a policy that has gotten broad Republican support but is now being used as a bat against him. Beyond Mr. Ryan, the conservative targets have seemingly shifted from old time establishment lawmakers to a process seemingly more akin to random selection.

On Monday, a Tea Party group in Alabama set out warning flares to Representative Martha Roby, a Republican, advising her that she would come under fire if she supported Mr. Ryan for speaker.

While the influence of Fox news on conservative voters has been well documented, “There’s a lot we don’t know about this bumper crop of digital news start-ups of the past five or 10 years, especially ad-supported ones,” said Jesse Holcomb the associate director of journalism research at the Pew Research Center. “Many aren’t public and don’t produce earnings statements and aren’t required to release information on revenue or profit margins.”

But House Republicans and their staff say millions of Republican primary voters have their opinions shaped by sites like Breitbart.com, which define a version of the conservative position of the moment, then whip their readers into a frenzy, imploring them to oppose anyone who takes a different position.

“Our goal is not influence; it is reporting and highlighting stories important to grass roots conservatives,” said Alex Marlow, the editor in chief of Breitbart. “To those in Congress and on the national political stage who want to better understand this constituency’s interests and worldview, we feel Breitbart News is a good place to start. Our focus on issues like spending, trade and particularly immigration are a reflection of the fact that there are massive populations of center-right Americans who do not favor the policies most often associated with the Republican Party establishment.”

Mr. Boehner, for instance, once considered unquestionably conservative, was forced out by his right flank. His would-be successor, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the majority leader, abruptly withdrew from the speaker’s race, also the target of Internet rancor that he was too much like Mr. Boehner.

The conservative rap on Mr. Ryan’s fiscal positions is especially curious. As Budget Committee chairman, Mr. Ryan was the author of plans that would convert Medicare into something akin to a voucher plan, where seniors would get government subsidies to purchase private insurance and move away from government-run health care.

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there is wayyyy more to life than just tea party members and rinos, look at texas, local and state level: there are also traditional, old school repubbers. the traditional ones don't know what to think of trump.

the rinos took over the establishment on a national level , then the tea party rose up, for a moment, then palin and perry took over the tea party and ruined it. back to tradition. if the local and state folks of tx could run the nation, the repubbers would be in good shape
 
Paul Ryan is in a no-win situation. If he runs for Speaker
of the House, he becomes baby sitter for a fractured GOP.
If he does not run for this position, then he is labeled as
disloyal to his party.
 
At this point, the GOP could get rid of everyone but Tea Partiers and they would still somehow find reason to call each other not Conservative enough. The Republicans are an unhappy group that is seeing their way of life crumbling. Pointing fingers at each other is just a symptom of that.
 
The conservative wing of the Republican party is not occupied by just Tea Partiers and evangelicals. There are thoughtful constitution conservatives, anti-federalists, budget slashers, states rights advocates, libertarians, etc.
Most of these people have learned that Paul Ryan is a go-along, get-along weakling who has no business occupying a leadership role.
 
The conservative wing of the Republican party is not occupied by just Tea Partiers and evangelicals. There are thoughtful constitution conservatives, anti-federalists, budget slashers, states rights advocates, libertarians, etc.
Most of these people have learned that Paul Ryan is a go-along, get-along weakling who has no business occupying a leadership role.

And therein lies the problem the republican party faces. If you can't compromise you can't govern.
 
The conservative wing of the Republican party is not occupied by just Tea Partiers and evangelicals. There are thoughtful constitution conservatives, anti-federalists, budget slashers, states rights advocates, libertarians, etc.
Most of these people have learned that Paul Ryan is a go-along, get-along weakling who has no business occupying a leadership role.
I wouldn't call Ryan a weakling. I actually have a lot of respect for his wonky ways. But I do agree that he has no business being the House leader. He rarely involves himself in legislative battles and hasn't demonstrated the ability to rally support from a wide array of House members. More importantly, perhaps, Ryan hasn't displayed the ability to turn public opinion on his side, an ability sorely needed for any good Speaker. He's a nuts and bolts kind of guy who doesn't seem to like the limelight. The Speaker is one the most highly visible positions there is. He just doesn't seem to be a good fit.
 
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And therein lies the problem the republican party faces. If you can't compromise you can't govern.

Yes, but as Donald Trump points out, only a fool starts negotiation from a position of weakness. The Republican party should not be taking advise from the NY Times and Washington Post.

BTW, how many bills has this Republican Congress forced Obama to veto? If they were doing there job the answer would no be zero. After Obama wears out his pen, then negotiate.
 
Yes, but as Donald Trump points out, only a fool starts negotiation from a position of weakness. The Republican party should not be taking advise from the NY Times and Washington Post.

BTW, how many bills has this Republican Congress forced Obama to veto? If they were doing there job the answer would no be zero. After Obama wears out his pen, then negotiate.
They can't force him to veto. The Senate Democrats provide Obama with cover with the filibuster.
 
there is wayyyy more to life than just tea party members and rinos, look at texas, local and state level: there are also traditional, old school repubbers. the traditional ones don't know what to think of trump.

the rinos took over the establishment on a national level , then the tea party rose up, for a moment, then palin and perry took over the tea party and ruined it. back to tradition. if the local and state folks of tx could run the nation, the repubbers would be in good shape
On what policy position do tea party and repubbers differ?
 
All that approach does is add to the gridlock in Washington. In the end the responsibility of the congress is to govern. That requires bending to the wishes of the masses. This may surprise you but the majority of Americans look at the Rinos as reasonable men and reject out of hand the policies advocated by the radical wing of the republican party.
 
They can't force him to veto. The Senate Democrats provide Obama with cover with the filibuster.

The Ds don't need to fillibuster, Mitch McConnell is better at covering Obama's ass than Harry Reid was.
 
I want my politicians far, far right on fiscal issues and leftish on social issues.
You hear this from time to time but what does that look like? What social issues do you think come for free? What social issue gets better by defunding it? Nearly all social issues are just poverty by another name. How do you expect conservative fiscal policy to ever address poverty?
 
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