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Lawmaker Tackles Tampon Tax

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The so-called "tampon tax," the issue Cristina Garcia now finds herself championing, isn't one she just stumbled upon; the California assemblywoman said she has been thinking about this "gender injustice" for awhile.

"I think a lot of women have at some point, thought about it, you know?" Garcia said this week.

Last year, Garcia kicked around the idea of introducing legislation that would make feminine hygiene products exempt from sales taxes in America's most populous state.

She didn't pull the trigger just then. But at a meeting in October, she heard from women in her district, and they talked a lot about their daily struggles and "how it all adds up," she said.

On average, according to Garcia's office, women in California pay $7 per month for 40 years in taxes on tampons and sanitary napkins. Statewide, it adds up to more than $20 million annually.

These products, her office said, "are a basic necessity" that should not be taxed; it's especially "unjust" since the tax only impacts women who are already suffering on the wrong end of the gender wage gap.

And so this week, on the first day of California's 2016 legislative session, Garcia announced Assembly Bill 1561, which proposed an end to the tampon tax.

"I just want people to realize this is not insignificant," said Garcia, a Democrat. "Especially if you're on a tight budget.

"And this is just the first step on a long discussion we need to be having," she added.

Tampons (and similar products) are tax-exempt in only a handful of states, including Maryland and New Jersey.

This map from Fusion shows which states tax tampons and which ones don't:

Fusion's Taryn Hillin explained:

For those uninitiated in the country’s tax codes (lucky you!), most states tax all “tangible personal property” but make exemptions for select “necessities” (non-luxury items). Things that are considered necessities usually include groceries, food stamp purchases, medical purchases (prescriptions, prosthetics, some over-the-counter drugs), clothes (in some states), and agriculture supplies. The lists of exemptions vary from state to state.

"Basically we are being taxed for being women," Garcia said in announcing the bill. "This is a step in the right direction to fix this gender injustice. Women have no choice but to buy these products, so the economic effect is only felt by woman [sic] and women of color are particularly hard hit by this tax. You can't just ignore your period, it's not like you can just ignore the constant flow."

It's an issue that's gaining more and more attention around the world.

Canada's tax on feminine hygiene products was lifted over summer, after thousands signed an online petition on the matter.

In Britain, a few women staged a "tampon tax" protest while on their periods last fall.

In California, Garcia jointly authored the new proposal with assemblywoman Ling Ling Chang, a Republican, who told The Post in a phone interview: "Bottom line is, this bill is about tax relief for women."

"Government is taxing women for something that is totally out of their control," Chang said. "Feminine hygiene is not a choice and should not be taxed."

Chang has called the tax a form of "regulatory discrimination."

At this point, you might be trying to draw a comparison between a tampon and a product that is geared specifically for men to use, like a condom.

That's something that Chang said she'd noticed when reading the comments on stories about tampon taxes.

Those comparisons don't hold up, Chang said.

"I was thinking … that it's a biological function that women can't control," she said. "Which makes it different. I can't really see any other product specifically for men that is comparable."

"I think it's because [as] people, we've been taught to hide this, not talk about it," said Garcia, when asked why so few states have gotten rid of the tax. "The reality is, these institutions of power are male-dominated. It's either they're not thinking about it, or they're afraid to approach it."

Since the bill was introduced, Chang said, some men have told her that they've been waiting for a woman to carry the issue.

That wasn't something she had heard before it was introduced, she said, but it didn't surprise her.

"Talk to some men and they get a little uncomfortable talking about feminine hygiene," she said.

The proposed legislation would add tampons and sanitary napkins to the list of products that are exempt from sales tax in the state of California, if it passes. Among the health-related items that are already tax-exempt there: medical ID tags, walkers and prescription medicine.

"If we can’t make them free we should at least make them more affordable," Garcia wrote on Facebook. "Having your period when [you're] poor means that once a month you have the added stress of finding a way to pay for these essentials."

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It's usually men who end up paying for these things anyway. I have a wife and four teenage daughters. I probably spend well over $100 a month on feminine hygiene products, but it never occurred to me to bitch about the sales tax.
 
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She's going to have to pull a lot of strings to get this done...

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I'm not clear what "feminine hygiene products" includes. If we are just taking tampons, pads and such, I completely agree they should be tax exempt.
 
It's usually men who end up paying for these things anyway.

Cripes, what a wonderful attitude to teach your 4 daughters. They can adopt your values and have a life goal of finding a man to take care of them and buy their tampons. They need to understand they have no future or value of their own and not bother with foolishness like careers and understanding finance and not worry their pretty little heads about paying bills or earning money. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they would enter into a marriage/partnership where they stay at home to raise kids while their husband works, they need to understand that is not their money at all and everything flows from the patriarch that their Daddy taught them all about.
 
Cripes, what a wonderful attitude to teach your 4 daughters. They can adopt your values and have a life goal of finding a man to take care of them and buy their tampons. They need to understand they have no future or value of their own and not bother with foolishness like careers and understanding finance and not worry their pretty little heads about paying bills or earning money. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they would enter into a marriage/partnership where they stay at home to raise kids while their husband works, they need to understand that is not their money at all and everything flows from the patriarch that their Daddy taught them all about.
Actually my hope is that they grow up to be self-sufficient enough that they don't complain about the $1.45 a month they pay in sales tax for their tampons.
 
Actually my hope is that they grow up to be self-sufficient enough that they don't complain about the $1.45 a month they pay in sales tax for their tampons.

So you teach them their Mom is a failure since she can't even buy her own tampons, cool.
 
Omigosh! Tampon tacks? That would hurt so freaking bad; wouldn't think they would be necessary to keep them suckers from sliding out. So damn glad I ain't a woman. :eek:
 
It's usually men that pay for these things anyway is pretty easy to comprehend. Misogynist is as misogynist does Forest.
Misogynist? Or realist? Most women are in some sort of relationship - married, co-habitating, whatever - where expenses are, at a minimum, shared by a man. This representative is trying to make it look like women are forced to shoulder the burden of buying feminine hygiene products all alone. It's a relatively low percentage of women who are forced to pay for their tampons all by their lonesome. For most people it's just another household expense, like car insurance or utilities or groceries.

And, seriously, sales tax? I'd have more respect for this woman's efforts if she was trying to get hygiene products included free of charge in the ACA. At least then she's spending time and effort on something worthwhile. Sales tax on a month's supply of tampons is practically nothing.
 
It's usually men that pay for these things anyway is pretty easy to comprehend. Misogynist is as misogynist does Forest.
As much as you're appalled by my sexist comment, I'm equally offended by Garcia's assertion that "it's especially 'unjust' since the tax only impacts women who are already suffering on the wrong end of the gender wage gap."

It doesn't impact only women. It impacts men as well.

I'm equally puzzled by her math. She claims women in California spend, on average, $7 in sales tax per month on tampons.

WTF?!

Sales tax in California is 7.5%. So sales tax of $7 means you spent $93.33. You can buy a box of 50 Tampax tampons for $7 at Target. That's 13.3 boxes of tampons per month, or 667 tampons. Who the hell burns through 667 tampons on her period? You'd have to change your tampon every 10 minutes and 48 seconds, 24 hours a day, for 5 days in order to use up 667 tampons.

If you're going through that many tampons then you need a doctor more than you need tax relief.
 
I vote bikini razors and waxing products should also be exempt, eliminating all petty excuses for why their vajajay's aren't smooth.

I was with my son at costco the other day and bought a massive packet of tampons, and it did not occur to me either that it was an injustice I'd be paying tax on that. Didn't even think twice about it actually. to be fair, I was just buying them so he could shoot them across the room for fun and watch them explode in the toilet.
 
As much as you're appalled by my sexist comment, I'm equally offended by Garcia's assertion that "it's especially 'unjust' since the tax only impacts women who are already suffering on the wrong end of the gender wage gap."

It doesn't impact only women. It impacts men as well.

I'm equally puzzled by her math. She claims women in California spend, on average, $7 in sales tax per month on tampons.

WTF?!

Sales tax in California is 7.5%. So sales tax of $7 means you spent $93.33. You can buy a box of 50 Tampax tampons for $7 at Target. That's 13.3 boxes of tampons per month, or 667 tampons. Who the hell burns through 667 tampons on her period? You'd have to change your tampon every 10 minutes and 48 seconds, 24 hours a day, for 5 days in order to use up 667 tampons.

If you're going through that many tampons then you need a doctor more than you need tax relief.
Bravo!!!
 
Can I get a rebate for the time my wife and I were in California and had to pay this onerous tax?
 
There should be no sales tax on Tube Socks, those poor teenage boys are suffering by paying this tax.


Really folks, if this is what we are now arguing about in America we have it pretty good.
 
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I love how treating people equally has turned into pandering.

How can you treat people equally when half the population doesn't have any use for these products? Why don't they have any use for these products? Because men and women are DIFFERENT.

(that means "not the same" in case you're having difficulty with the concept)
 
Misogynist? Or realist?

Misogynist.

Deflect and obfuscate all you want, your post reeks of patriarchal attitude. Then you double down with the "there's always a man paying" bs, even though you acknowledge

my sexist comment

Millions of women deal with abuse/abandonment/mental illness/deadbeat dads/addiction and myriads of other issues that can contribute to or cause hardship. To dismiss all such concerns with sexist crap is, well, misogynist.

If your girls seek out a home like they grew up in, they will likely end up with a patriarchal hubby like Daddy. Keep up the good work, after all if you taught them a silly attitude like they pay for their own tampons they'd probably get slapped around.
 
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Men, on average, are larger than women and require more calories to sustain them. Eating is not optional. We require food just as much as women require tampons. We didn't ask to be larger. It's just how it is. Nature selected it that way over tens of thousands of years. So now we're stuck paying higher food bills than women. It's unjust. I'm going to write a letter to my congressperson and he'd damn well better do something about it.
 
Misogynist.

Deflect and obfuscate all you want, your post reeks of patriarchal attitude. Then you double down with the "there's always a man paying" bs, even though you acknowledge



Millions of women deal with abuse/abandonment/mental illness/deadbeat dads/addiction and myriads of other issues that can contribute to or cause hardship. To dismiss all such concerns with sexist crap is, well, misogynist.

If your girls seek out a home like they grew up in, they will likely end up with a patriarchal hubby like Daddy. Keep up the good work, after all if you taught them a silly attitude like they pay for their own tampons they'd probably get slapped around.
I'll give you credit for one thing, asshole - when you decide to blatantly make shit up and distort what another poster wrote, you really commit to it. It's interesting that you are so enraged that I pointed out the fact that men also pay for tampons but you seem to have no problem with Garcia declaring that the tax "only impacts women".
 
It's usually men who end up paying for these things anyway. I have a wife and four teenage daughters. I probably spend well over $100 a month on feminine hygiene products, but it never occurred to me to bitch about the sales tax.
Or they could go back before tampons and sanitary napkins were developed and just do what women did then, have a set of washable cloths or rags. You'd have to pay for the laundry soap, though.
 
I'll give you credit for one thing, asshole - when you decide to blatantly make shit up and distort what another poster wrote, you really commit to it. It's interesting that you are so enraged that I pointed out the fact that men also pay for tampons but you seem to have no problem with Garcia declaring that the tax "only impacts women".

Add attack to obfuscate and deflect. Keep up the good work, adding the lesson for your daughters that a patriarch should flash angry and call people assholes if challenged will get them an abuser for sure.

Sorry to make shit up and distort things by quoting you.
 
Add attack to obfuscate and deflect. Keep up the good work, adding the lesson for your daughters that a patriarch should flash angry and call people assholes if challenged will get them an abuser for sure.

Sorry to make shit up and distort things by quoting you.
This is classic. The guy who almost immediately went full throttle with personal insults now has a problem with personal insults. Your entire first post was filled with bullshit and contained not a single direct quote. In case you forgot what you wrote, here it is:

"Cripes, what a wonderful attitude to teach your 4 daughters. They can adopt your values and have a life goal of finding a man to take care of them and buy their tampons. They need to understand they have no future or value of their own and not bother with foolishness like careers and understanding finance and not worry their pretty little heads about paying bills or earning money. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they would enter into a marriage/partnership where they stay at home to raise kids while their husband works, they need to understand that is not their money at all and everything flows from the patriarch that their Daddy taught them all about."


You later went on to add this lump of shit to the conversation:

"So you teach them their Mom is a failure since she can't even buy her own tampons, cool."


That's a whole lot of making shit up.

Hopefully someday you'll be intelligent enough to understand the difference between quoting someone and bastardizing what they said. I suspect that's going to a long road for you.
 
Can you give us an example?

Because this isn't pandering to women.
How is it not pandering to women? If some white male Republican introduced a bill that was going to save the average woman a dollar fifty a month and then puffed out his chest like he was some kind of hero, you'd laugh at him.
 
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Does Garcia have any plans how to plug the hole in the budget this lost revenue will create?
 
Or they could go back before tampons and sanitary napkins were developed and just do what women did then, have a set of washable cloths or rags. You'd have to pay for the laundry soap, though.

Diva or Moon cups.
 
Cripes, what a wonderful attitude to teach your 4 daughters. They can adopt your values and have a life goal of finding a man to take care of them and buy their tampons. They need to understand they have no future or value of their own and not bother with foolishness like careers and understanding finance and not worry their pretty little heads about paying bills or earning money. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, if they would enter into a marriage/partnership where they stay at home to raise kids while their husband works, they need to understand that is not their money at all and everything flows from the patriarch that their Daddy taught them all about.
LOL, dude, calm down. I think you're overreacting a little bro.
 
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"Basically we are being taxed for being women," Garcia said in announcing the bill. "This is a step in the right direction to fix this gender injustice. Women have no choice but to buy these products, so the economic effect is only felt by woman [sic] and women of color are particularly hard hit by this tax. You can't just ignore your period, it's not like you can just ignore the constant flow."

Anyone else think it was odd they just kind of threw this out there? Do the coloreds have more challenging "feminine issues" that I don't know about?
 
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