Led Zeppelin’s Jimmy Page Testifies in ‘Stairway to Heaven’ Copyright Trial
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You can't patent a song, or a chord progression. It's an intellectual property/copyright/creative rights issue.
I'm currently suing a client for using an unauthorized image for an ad campaign. They do not have a copyright release from me, nor do they have any licensing rights signed over from me.
For the hearing impaired, like The Tradition
Tablature of both intros:
LOL, so only the similar notes matter to you? Nothing else? Not the sound, not the tone, not the timing, not the existence of any other sounds that are part of the recording? Nor the relevance of the disputed progression as part of both larger musical scores?
So, if I found two completely disparate soul songs that had a similar horn section progression, that's a copyright violation? Get out of town with your BS.
No, the two sound identical. Apparently your ears don't work, so I had to display it in a more graphic form.
No, they don't sound identical. The Spirit song sounds like someone trying to play Stairway to Heaven and failing badly.
You're musically illiterate.
People have had to pay royalties over something as minor as a bass line, or a lyric. If you can't hear the obvious similarities, you're either musically illiterate, or purposely obtuse for trolling reasons.
Do you play guitar?
I can assure you, without a doubt, that those two riffs are IDENTICAL!
Now, do the entire songs sound alike? No... they don't. But those intro riffs are the same. And, that chord progression is the basis for all the verse lyrics in the Zeppelin song.
You just f**ked your own line of argument. Since the Spirit song came before Stairway.
Yay! We're not talking about this song.
That's blatant, too. They must have had tone-deaf morons like you on the jury.
Yay! All the freaking rap dudes "sample" riffs and progressions all the freaking time. This case is BS.
We're not talking about "sampling". You are so out of your element here that calling it drowning would be a compliment.
What you guys fail to realize is, this bullshit only enriches the lawyers.
Just say "NO" to the freaking lawyers and rock on.
Just say "NO" to the freaking lawyers and rock on.
And the goal posts have been officially moved.
Different issue....different outcome.
As a person who lives of his creativity and copyrights/licensing of imagery........... you couldn't say anything dumber on this subject. My lawyer works his ass off to make sure i'm compensated for stolen images, and violations of my copyrights.
why do you keep diverting the attention away from the OP? I don't care about the other songs. We are talking about this one.
You sound like a child who doesn't have an answer, so they start bringing up other things in an attempt to throw off their parents.
If someone paints a painting of the "image" you created, and adds a bunch of other crap that makes it different, you're going to sue this person?
GFY. You're everything that's wrong with this country.
EVERYTHING is based on something that came before. The only way humanity advances is by leveraging upon ideas that someone else thought of first.
I love this... this hole issue for Tradition is that he hates lawyers and lawsuits.
It would be a really sad thing if Stairway to Heaven never existed because Taurus wrote a crappy song that sort of sounds the beginning of Stairway to Heaven.
So you basically don't understand creative rights and copyright, and why those laws exist. Yeah....if they took my image without consent and used it to create something that they profited from? You're f**king right I'd sue them. They didn't have my consent, nor did they purchase the right to use my creative property.
Discussion over. You don't get it and you don't want to learn about it. Stay ignorant...and keep posting like you're ignorant to this issue.
Well, fortunately, Jimmy Page lifted the chord progression and we got Stairway!
Absolutely ZERO commentary on the larger issue. There are no new ideas under the sun. Everything is based on something that came before. That's the reason mankind isn't still living in caves.
You're coming from a position of greed.
"I took a picture of this cliff and copyrighted it and published it.
No one else can take a similar picture of this cliff and publish it."
GFY.
They sound similar, however I don't believe they are close enough to award damages. Led Zeppelin song was more kick ass.
"There are no new ideas under the sun?" In the abstract, maybe. IDEAS, maybe! But, taking them and making them into a reality is not the same thing. Example; there was no electricity in the Roman Empire. No cameras, either. The potential has always been there, but the results are always changing. Nothing is static. Now, you can argue that a profit shouldn't be made from these creations. But, you're a capitalist. So, greed is good, right?
That last sentence shows you haven't a f**king clue.
They can't use MY image that I CREATED, and publish it without my knowledge or permission.
If they want to go to the same place, or create their own image? Have at it!!! they can take pictures all day long if they want to. But to use MY image that came out of MY camera?.....that comes with a license and a fee.
Trad, your whole argument is mired in deception. You've been called-out for having lied about not hearing a similarity.
Profit is good. Using the system to ensure someone else can't build on your great idea is not good.
How many times have I posted that simple similarity is not enough for it to be a copyright violation?
That's not even close to what's being discussed here. Inspiration is different from plagiarism.
Just this one time. Before, you were claiming there was NO similarity. You might wanna stop now.
