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I guess we just can’t expect to have decent qb play at Iowa anymore. Deacon( Wlisconsin leftover) Cade( Michigan leftover) Sullivan( Northwestern leftover) . We are stuck with this because we can’t evaluate, coach or recruit a decent QB. We had 26 yards passing in the last 3 quarters. Ridiculous!!! The offense will continue to suck against anyone with a pulse . They need to play someone with some mobility to add another element to the running game .
 
Lot of season left to play and hope Lester can evolve the offense to play complimentary football toward the defense. Hope Cade can evolve and turn into an offensive leader or move on to Sullivan but we know that won’t happen.
 
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Lot of season left to play and hope Lester can evolve the offense to play complimentary football toward the defense. Hope Cade can evolve and turn into an offensive leader or move on to Sullivan but we know that won’t happen.
Any of the qbs I saw from early practice arent going to evolve.
 
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Lot of season left to play and hope Lester can evolve the offense to play complimentary football toward the defense. Hope Cade can evolve and turn into an offensive leader or move on to Sullivan but we know that won’t happen.
Is that all we have? Hope?
 
So glad someone started a thread suggesting that Iowa is falling a bit short as far as QB play goes. Brilliant new insight to ponder.
What new insight do you have genius? That’s the problem with Kirk . Same old Shite! You can hope all you want and it’s not going to change. We can ignore the biggest problem on the team but if you don’t have a QB you can’t beat anyone worth a damn. So let’s hear your great ideas now about how we finally beat a decent team.
 
I guess we just can’t expect to have decent qb play at Iowa anymore. Deacon( Wlisconsin leftover) Cade( Michigan leftover) Sullivan( Northwestern leftover) . We are stuck with this because we can’t evaluate, coach or recruit a decent QB. We had 26 yards passing in the last 3 quarters. Ridiculous!!! The offense will continue to suck against anyone with a pulse . They need to play someone with some mobility to add another element to the running game .
Cade didn't play nearly as bad as people are claiming.

He did a lot of really impressive things out there. Overall, he is seeing the field very well and has great timing in his decision making.

Most people are pointing to 3 big mistakes/missed opportunities.

The INT: absolutely a bad mistake by Cade. Can't continue to happen. Not to excuse the mistake, but there were a few factors present that provide some perspective.
1. Cade has played very little football in a couple years. Rust is a realistic possibility.
2. It's one mistake. It was a big one and turnovers can't happen. At the same, players make mistakes on occasion, and Cade is overall playing quite well.
3. The long touchdown to Vander Zee in week one may have proved to be unwanted positive reinforcement for Cade in terms of forcing the ball into coverage.
4. Perhaps the strongest factor that led to Cade forcing the ball was the combination of play design and the emphasis that the play presumably got during halftime. It was the first offensive play out of halftime. It was a designed throwback with one intended target. It was called with the intention of getting a big gain and making a statement. All of this could have easily contributed to Cade wanting it too much, resulting in the force.

Not throwing to Gill, wide open in the end zone: the primary options in the play were to Cade's right, which is where he initially looked. Nothing was open to that side and there was pressure at Cade's feet that never gave him the time to look back to his far left, as Gill was the last option in his progression.

The underthrow when Brown had his man beat: this was actually a much tougher play than one might assume. The route presented very little natural angle. So essentially, if the ball is thrown out in front of Brown, it needs to have a ton of air under it, for Brown to run under it and make a basket-style catch. It's pretty much a pro route design, as execution, even when the player is open requires a high level of skill from the QB and receiver. Because of this, I think Cade instinctually tried to immediately put the ball on Brown when he saw him open. And because safeties will bear down on that route, Cade will have to learn to at least miss long in that situation.


But again, there are a lot of encouraging signs in Cade's play. He's playing much better than he did last year, when he was playing hurt. Although not a running QB, his pocket presence and slides have been impressive. Except for a couple underthrows, his accuracy has been really good. Not all have been completed. Give ISU credit for some tight coverage. Also the refs were allowing a decent amount of contact. But most of the throws have been on time and on the money. As I said, Cade's timing and deceicivness in his reads have been very good.

All in all, there's no reason not to believe that Cade's going to come up with some very big moments this year.

All that said, run the ball
 
Cade didn't play nearly as bad as people are claiming.

He did a lot of really impressive things out there. Overall, he is seeing the field very well and has great timing in his decision making.

Most people are pointing to 3 big mistakes/missed opportunities.

The INT: absolutely a bad mistake by Cade. Can't continue to happen. Not to excuse the mistake, but there were a few factors present that provide some perspective.
1. Cade has played very little football in a couple years. Rust is a realistic possibility.
2. It's one mistake. It was a big one and turnovers can't happen. At the same, players make mistakes on occasion, and Cade is overall playing quite well.
3. The long touchdown to Vander Zee in week one may have proved to be unwanted positive reinforcement for Cade in terms of forcing the ball into coverage.
4. Perhaps the strongest factor that led to Cade forcing the ball was the combination of play design and the emphasis that the play presumably got during halftime. It was the first offensive play out of halftime. It was a designed throwback with one intended target. It was called with the intention of getting a big gain and making a statement. All of this could have easily contributed to Cade wanting it too much, resulting in the force.

Not throwing to Gill, wide open in the end zone: the primary options in the play were to Cade's right, which is where he initially looked. Nothing was open to that side and there was pressure at Cade's feet that never gave him the time to look back to his far left, as Gill was the last option in his progression.

The underthrow when Brown had his man beat: this was actually a much tougher play than one might assume. The route presented very little natural angle. So essentially, if the ball is thrown out in front of Brown, it needs to have a ton of air under it, for Brown to run under it and make a basket-style catch. It's pretty much a pro route design, as execution, even when the player is open requires a high level of skill from the QB and receiver. Because of this, I think Cade instinctually tried to immediately put the ball on Brown when he saw him open. And because safeties will bear down on that route, Cade will have to learn to at least miss long in that situation.


But again, there are a lot of encouraging signs in Cade's play. He's playing much better than he did last year, when he was playing hurt. Although not a running QB, his pocket presence and slides have been impressive. Except for a couple underthrows, his accuracy has been really good. Not all have been completed. Give ISU credit for some tight coverage. Also the refs were allowing a decent amount of contact. But most of the throws have been on time and on the money. As I said, Cade's timing and deceicivness in his reads have been very good.

All in all, there's no reason not to believe that Cade's going to come up with some very big moments this year.

All that said, run the ball
Holy shit.
 
Cade didn't play nearly as bad as people are claiming.

He did a lot of really impressive things out there. Overall, he is seeing the field very well and has great timing in his decision making.

Most people are pointing to 3 big mistakes/missed opportunities.

The INT: absolutely a bad mistake by Cade. Can't continue to happen. Not to excuse the mistake, but there were a few factors present that provide some perspective.
1. Cade has played very little football in a couple years. Rust is a realistic possibility.
2. It's one mistake. It was a big one and turnovers can't happen. At the same, players make mistakes on occasion, and Cade is overall playing quite well.
3. The long touchdown to Vander Zee in week one may have proved to be unwanted positive reinforcement for Cade in terms of forcing the ball into coverage.
4. Perhaps the strongest factor that led to Cade forcing the ball was the combination of play design and the emphasis that the play presumably got during halftime. It was the first offensive play out of halftime. It was a designed throwback with one intended target. It was called with the intention of getting a big gain and making a statement. All of this could have easily contributed to Cade wanting it too much, resulting in the force.

Not throwing to Gill, wide open in the end zone: the primary options in the play were to Cade's right, which is where he initially looked. Nothing was open to that side and there was pressure at Cade's feet that never gave him the time to look back to his far left, as Gill was the last option in his progression.

The underthrow when Brown had his man beat: this was actually a much tougher play than one might assume. The route presented very little natural angle. So essentially, if the ball is thrown out in front of Brown, it needs to have a ton of air under it, for Brown to run under it and make a basket-style catch. It's pretty much a pro route design, as execution, even when the player is open requires a high level of skill from the QB and receiver. Because of this, I think Cade instinctually tried to immediately put the ball on Brown when he saw him open. And because safeties will bear down on that route, Cade will have to learn to at least miss long in that situation.


But again, there are a lot of encouraging signs in Cade's play. He's playing much better than he did last year, when he was playing hurt. Although not a running QB, his pocket presence and slides have been impressive. Except for a couple underthrows, his accuracy has been really good. Not all have been completed. Give ISU credit for some tight coverage. Also the refs were allowing a decent amount of contact. But most of the throws have been on time and on the money. As I said, Cade's timing and deceicivness in his reads have been very good.

All in all, there's no reason not to believe that Cade's going to come up with some very big moments this year.

All that said, run the ball
He’s a 5th year senior that is throwing off of his back foot too much and under throwing a lot of balls that could have lead to touchdowns the first week and vs ISU. He should know better and only throw it to where his receivers have the ability to catch it. That leads me to question his thinking ability with those interceptions.
 
Holy shit.

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I don’t know whether to laugh or cry for the guy with his book writings.
 
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I don’t know whether to laugh or cry for the guy with his book writings.
He thinks Cade did great things in that game. Last year the great Deacon Hill had 8 games with the same or better QBR than Cade had in that ISU game. But hey, we can only dream of Cade reaching those heights.
 
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Cade didn't play nearly as bad as people are claiming.

He did a lot of really impressive things out there. Overall, he is seeing the field very well and has great timing in his decision making.

Most people are pointing to 3 big mistakes/missed opportunities.

The INT: absolutely a bad mistake by Cade. Can't continue to happen. Not to excuse the mistake, but there were a few factors present that provide some perspective.
1. Cade has played very little football in a couple years. Rust is a realistic possibility.
2. It's one mistake. It was a big one and turnovers can't happen. At the same, players make mistakes on occasion, and Cade is overall playing quite well.
3. The long touchdown to Vander Zee in week one may have proved to be unwanted positive reinforcement for Cade in terms of forcing the ball into coverage.
4. Perhaps the strongest factor that led to Cade forcing the ball was the combination of play design and the emphasis that the play presumably got during halftime. It was the first offensive play out of halftime. It was a designed throwback with one intended target. It was called with the intention of getting a big gain and making a statement. All of this could have easily contributed to Cade wanting it too much, resulting in the force.

Not throwing to Gill, wide open in the end zone: the primary options in the play were to Cade's right, which is where he initially looked. Nothing was open to that side and there was pressure at Cade's feet that never gave him the time to look back to his far left, as Gill was the last option in his progression.

The underthrow when Brown had his man beat: this was actually a much tougher play than one might assume. The route presented very little natural angle. So essentially, if the ball is thrown out in front of Brown, it needs to have a ton of air under it, for Brown to run under it and make a basket-style catch. It's pretty much a pro route design, as execution, even when the player is open requires a high level of skill from the QB and receiver. Because of this, I think Cade instinctually tried to immediately put the ball on Brown when he saw him open. And because safeties will bear down on that route, Cade will have to learn to at least miss long in that situation.


But again, there are a lot of encouraging signs in Cade's play. He's playing much better than he did last year, when he was playing hurt. Although not a running QB, his pocket presence and slides have been impressive. Except for a couple underthrows, his accuracy has been really good. Not all have been completed. Give ISU credit for some tight coverage. Also the refs were allowing a decent amount of contact. But most of the throws have been on time and on the money. As I said, Cade's timing and deceicivness in his reads have been very good.

All in all, there's no reason not to believe that Cade's going to come up with some very big moments this year.

All that said, run the ball
His play was atrocious.
 
He thinks Cade did great things in that game. Last year the great Deacon Hill had 8 games with the same or better QBR than Cade had in that ISU game. But hey, we can only dream of Cade reaching those heights.
You have to look beyond the numbers. A lot of encouraging signs.

I predict Cade will have at least a solid year.

Pretty much everything else I've predicted on this board the last couple years has come true; so just watch
 
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You have to look beyond the numbers. A lot of encouraging signs.

I predict Cade will have at least a solid year.

Pretty much everything else I've predicted on this board the last couple years has come true; so just watch
Numbers are all that matter to all of us living in the real world.

His 25 QBR is good for 121st in the country.

 
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You have to look beyond the numbers. A lot of encouraging signs.

I predict Cade will have at least a solid year.

Pretty much everything else I've predicted on this board the last couple years has come true; so just watch
What the hell does solid mean? Does it mean the offense finishes outside the bottom 1/3 in the conference? Does it mean a passer rating above room temperature? Does it mean limping to a late December bowl game only to get blasted by a .500 SEC team with half their starters sitting out?
At this point, anything above embarrassing would be an improvement for Iowa.
 
Our best option at the most important position in all of team sports...the guy who "gives us the best chance to win"...is a one-legged rust bucket who hasn't played much football the past 3 years, is virtually no threat to run for positive yards, struggles to even buy time in the pocket with his legs, is incapable of completing a QB sneak, and has the 120th ranked QBR in America.

But don't worry folks, because he might rise all the way up to serviceable at some point in the season. Maybe by week 12 he'll be ready to actually step into a throw. C'mon....you gotta give a guy time! Every single solitary coach in America would be following this exact same course of action.

You guys just don't know football.
 
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Our best option at the most important position in all of team sports...the guy who "gives us the best chance to win"...is a one-legged rust bucket who hasn't played much football the past 3 years, is virtually no threat to run for positive yards, struggles to even buy time in the pocket with his legs, is incapable of completing a QB sneak, and has the 120th ranked QBR in America.

But don't worry folks, because he might rise all the way up to serviceable at some point in the season. Maybe by week 12 he'll be ready to actually step into a throw. C'mon....you gotta give a guy time! Every single solitary coach in America would be following this exact same course of action.

You guys just don't know football.
GIVE HIM TIME!! HE JUST NEEDS TIME TO GET INTO GAME SHAPE!!

People are so impatient. Should be 100% by week 7 or 8. You act like there are other players on the roster.
 
Cade didn't play nearly as bad as people are claiming.

He did a lot of really impressive things out there. Overall, he is seeing the field very well and has great timing in his decision making.

Most people are pointing to 3 big mistakes/missed opportunities.

The INT: absolutely a bad mistake by Cade. Can't continue to happen. Not to excuse the mistake, but there were a few factors present that provide some perspective.
1. Cade has played very little football in a couple years. Rust is a realistic possibility.
2. It's one mistake. It was a big one and turnovers can't happen. At the same, players make mistakes on occasion, and Cade is overall playing quite well.
3. The long touchdown to Vander Zee in week one may have proved to be unwanted positive reinforcement for Cade in terms of forcing the ball into coverage.
4. Perhaps the strongest factor that led to Cade forcing the ball was the combination of play design and the emphasis that the play presumably got during halftime. It was the first offensive play out of halftime. It was a designed throwback with one intended target. It was called with the intention of getting a big gain and making a statement. All of this could have easily contributed to Cade wanting it too much, resulting in the force.

Not throwing to Gill, wide open in the end zone: the primary options in the play were to Cade's right, which is where he initially looked. Nothing was open to that side and there was pressure at Cade's feet that never gave him the time to look back to his far left, as Gill was the last option in his progression.

The underthrow when Brown had his man beat: this was actually a much tougher play than one might assume. The route presented very little natural angle. So essentially, if the ball is thrown out in front of Brown, it needs to have a ton of air under it, for Brown to run under it and make a basket-style catch. It's pretty much a pro route design, as execution, even when the player is open requires a high level of skill from the QB and receiver. Because of this, I think Cade instinctually tried to immediately put the ball on Brown when he saw him open. And because safeties will bear down on that route, Cade will have to learn to at least miss long in that situation.


But again, there are a lot of encouraging signs in Cade's play. He's playing much better than he did last year, when he was playing hurt. Although not a running QB, his pocket presence and slides have been impressive. Except for a couple underthrows, his accuracy has been really good. Not all have been completed. Give ISU credit for some tight coverage. Also the refs were allowing a decent amount of contact. But most of the throws have been on time and on the money. As I said, Cade's timing and deceicivness in his reads have been very good.

All in all, there's no reason not to believe that Cade's going to come up with some very big moments this year.

All that said, run the ball
Dude.... holy shit. That entire post is from someone who is either a troll or has their head so far up their ass. Using words like "impressive" and "very good" with Cade's play so far is laughable. Keep trying to convince yourself though.
 
Marco completed nearly 80% in high school, but like many many other QBs who come here, evidently cannot get over the 50% required Iowa threshold.
 
Cade didn't look fully healthy to me this game and we know Kirk will play his guy at QB no matter what. Thought he moved around much better the first game. But we also had Wallace running the show who allowed Lester to open things up once we got going in the second half.
 
Cade didn't play nearly as bad as people are claiming.

He did a lot of really impressive things out there. Overall, he is seeing the field very well and has great timing in his decision making.

Most people are pointing to 3 big mistakes/missed opportunities.

The INT: absolutely a bad mistake by Cade. Can't continue to happen. Not to excuse the mistake, but there were a few factors present that provide some perspective.
1. Cade has played very little football in a couple years. Rust is a realistic possibility.
2. It's one mistake. It was a big one and turnovers can't happen. At the same, players make mistakes on occasion, and Cade is overall playing quite well.
3. The long touchdown to Vander Zee in week one may have proved to be unwanted positive reinforcement for Cade in terms of forcing the ball into coverage.
4. Perhaps the strongest factor that led to Cade forcing the ball was the combination of play design and the emphasis that the play presumably got during halftime. It was the first offensive play out of halftime. It was a designed throwback with one intended target. It was called with the intention of getting a big gain and making a statement. All of this could have easily contributed to Cade wanting it too much, resulting in the force.

Not throwing to Gill, wide open in the end zone: the primary options in the play were to Cade's right, which is where he initially looked. Nothing was open to that side and there was pressure at Cade's feet that never gave him the time to look back to his far left, as Gill was the last option in his progression.

The underthrow when Brown had his man beat: this was actually a much tougher play than one might assume. The route presented very little natural angle. So essentially, if the ball is thrown out in front of Brown, it needs to have a ton of air under it, for Brown to run under it and make a basket-style catch. It's pretty much a pro route design, as execution, even when the player is open requires a high level of skill from the QB and receiver. Because of this, I think Cade instinctually tried to immediately put the ball on Brown when he saw him open. And because safeties will bear down on that route, Cade will have to learn to at least miss long in that situation.


But again, there are a lot of encouraging signs in Cade's play. He's playing much better than he did last year, when he was playing hurt. Although not a running QB, his pocket presence and slides have been impressive. Except for a couple underthrows, his accuracy has been really good. Not all have been completed. Give ISU credit for some tight coverage. Also the refs were allowing a decent amount of contact. But most of the throws have been on time and on the money. As I said, Cade's timing and deceicivness in his reads have been very good.

All in all, there's no reason not to believe that Cade's going to come up with some very big moments this year.

All that said, run the ball
You’ve gotta be ready to puke after all that spin. Only a moron and CM’s mother would have considered his performance Sat as anything but an utter fail.
 
Cade didn't play nearly as bad as people are claiming.

He did a lot of really impressive things out there. Overall, he is seeing the field very well and has great timing in his decision making.

Most people are pointing to 3 big mistakes/missed opportunities.

The INT: absolutely a bad mistake by Cade. Can't continue to happen. Not to excuse the mistake, but there were a few factors present that provide some perspective.
1. Cade has played very little football in a couple years. Rust is a realistic possibility.
2. It's one mistake. It was a big one and turnovers can't happen. At the same, players make mistakes on occasion, and Cade is overall playing quite well.
3. The long touchdown to Vander Zee in week one may have proved to be unwanted positive reinforcement for Cade in terms of forcing the ball into coverage.
4. Perhaps the strongest factor that led to Cade forcing the ball was the combination of play design and the emphasis that the play presumably got during halftime. It was the first offensive play out of halftime. It was a designed throwback with one intended target. It was called with the intention of getting a big gain and making a statement. All of this could have easily contributed to Cade wanting it too much, resulting in the force.

Not throwing to Gill, wide open in the end zone: the primary options in the play were to Cade's right, which is where he initially looked. Nothing was open to that side and there was pressure at Cade's feet that never gave him the time to look back to his far left, as Gill was the last option in his progression.

The underthrow when Brown had his man beat: this was actually a much tougher play than one might assume. The route presented very little natural angle. So essentially, if the ball is thrown out in front of Brown, it needs to have a ton of air under it, for Brown to run under it and make a basket-style catch. It's pretty much a pro route design, as execution, even when the player is open requires a high level of skill from the QB and receiver. Because of this, I think Cade instinctually tried to immediately put the ball on Brown when he saw him open. And because safeties will bear down on that route, Cade will have to learn to at least miss long in that situation.


But again, there are a lot of encouraging signs in Cade's play. He's playing much better than he did last year, when he was playing hurt. Although not a running QB, his pocket presence and slides have been impressive. Except for a couple underthrows, his accuracy has been really good. Not all have been completed. Give ISU credit for some tight coverage. Also the refs were allowing a decent amount of contact. But most of the throws have been on time and on the money. As I said, Cade's timing and deceicivness in his reads have been very good.

All in all, there's no reason not to believe that Cade's going to come up with some very big moments this year.

All that said, run the ball
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