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Really? Then you have a conveniently short, ideologue driven memory. I do not believe that Bush was a good president, in fact, I believe that it will be a stretch for him to ever be considered middle of the pack as another poster has suggested. But there are plenty of measures which would indicate that the country was better off under Bush.
Even if you throw out 2009 GDP growth, almost (3)%, Real GDP growth in the US has not once reached 2.7%, the average under Bush. More people unemployed today than ever. Unemployment rate has not come down to Bush era rates, save for one year. Polls show that people felt safer from terrorists during Bush years. Iraq was stable. Polls show that the U.S. Is less respected around the world now than during the Bush era. I could go on, but you get the picture.
I am not defending Bush. As I said, I don't think he was a good President. But Obama has been a very mediocre to poor president.
Oh and I don't think he "saved" the economy or GM either, but that is a longer discussion. And before you blame Bush for the financial collapse in 2008, go back and read objective postmortems of that failure, which was major, systemic, and 15 plus years in the making. Bush certainly shoulders some of the responsibility there, as does the Fed, Congress, both sides of the aisle, the Clinton Administration, and Wall Street. Of all of the analysis I have studied on this subject, the best was probably in The Economist, which isn't surprising.
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Originally posted by naturalmwa:
By what measurement do you find Jr. a superior President to BHO? Â I mean I can understand not liking Obama, even a lot, but my most every measure the country is better off than it was under Bush.ÂOriginally posted by aflachawk:
No I actually think Jr(as you call him) will go down as kind of a middle of the pack POTUS who made some good and bad decisions.Â
Really? Then you have a conveniently short, ideologue driven memory. I do not believe that Bush was a good president, in fact, I believe that it will be a stretch for him to ever be considered middle of the pack as another poster has suggested. But there are plenty of measures which would indicate that the country was better off under Bush.
Even if you throw out 2009 GDP growth, almost (3)%, Real GDP growth in the US has not once reached 2.7%, the average under Bush. More people unemployed today than ever. Unemployment rate has not come down to Bush era rates, save for one year. Polls show that people felt safer from terrorists during Bush years. Iraq was stable. Polls show that the U.S. Is less respected around the world now than during the Bush era. I could go on, but you get the picture.
I am not defending Bush. As I said, I don't think he was a good President. But Obama has been a very mediocre to poor president.
Oh and I don't think he "saved" the economy or GM either, but that is a longer discussion. And before you blame Bush for the financial collapse in 2008, go back and read objective postmortems of that failure, which was major, systemic, and 15 plus years in the making. Bush certainly shoulders some of the responsibility there, as does the Fed, Congress, both sides of the aisle, the Clinton Administration, and Wall Street. Of all of the analysis I have studied on this subject, the best was probably in The Economist, which isn't surprising.
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