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Let's summarize today's events....

God you're desperate. Every day the panic and desperation get worse and worse for you Sullivan and then you come out here and create 75 threads that all sound a lot more like you trying to convince yourself of something than anyone else.
 
The D's were angry that the stock market was down.
Trump announces tariff increases on China, and a reduction to 10% for the other countries.
The stock market shoots way up.
The D's are pissed the stock market went up.
not pissed as much as an awkward combination of validation and disappointment

many times trump flip flops on a dime and plain steals his critics best ideas. this can feel good at one level but also makes it insanely irritating for opponents.
 
The D's were angry that the stock market was down.
Trump announces tariff increases on China, and a reduction to 10% for the other countries.
The stock market shoots way up.
The D's are pissed the stock market went up.
It’s funny how the libs have never considered these tariff announcements might just be to bring these countries to the negotiating table. Triggered libs are the best reading though.
 
is it good or bad that he is willing to adapt/flipflop/steal-others-ideas (call it whatever)?
In this particular case it's good. The plan is/was disastrous for the U.S. and global economy from the start.

In general it's really bad, because nobody can operate or invest resources efficiently in an environment where the rules are changing daily. Guy's an idiot.
 
The D's were angry that the stock market was down.
Trump announces tariff increases on China, and a reduction to 10% for the other countries.
The stock market shoots way up.
The D's are pissed the stock market went up.
You sure post a lot of dumb nonsensical shit. Nobody with any assets whatsoever is unhappy that he paused things, and hopefully whoever convinced him to do this (Ackman) can convince him to radically adjust his approach going forward.
 
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It’s funny how the libs have never considered these tariff announcements might just be to bring these countries to the negotiating table. Triggered libs are the best reading though.
It took 2 years to negotiate USMCA he wasn't happy with. 90 days to negotiate 100 tailored trade deals across the world perfectly sure doesn't feel doable at all.
 
It’s funny how the libs have never considered these tariff announcements might just be to bring these countries to the negotiating table. Triggered libs are the best reading though.
Here's an idea: strategically plan a tariff implementation, clearly detail the reason/calculations/impacts, announce they will go into effect at a future date (say, 7/1), explain when they'll be removed (and criteria for), then invite countries to come negotiate.

Conversely, we could just ask chatGPT to calculate reciprical tariffs, not vet the answer, and implement the results the next day with little to no communication.

Tough call.
 
Here's an idea: strategically plan a tariff implementation, clearly detail the reason/calculations/impacts, announce they will go into effect at a future date (say, 7/1), explain when they'll be removed (and criteria for), then invite countries to come negotiate.

Conversely, we could just ask chatGPT to calculate reciprical tariffs, not vet the answer, and implement the results the next day with little to no communication.

Tough call.
He likes the tough guy approach, if it works who cares about the technique.
 
Because if Trump just sits back and sings Kumbaya as former Presidents have done, nothing happens.

You should read Trump's "Art of the Deal" book.
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You're right. Plummeting 401ks. Layoffs. Increased prices. Other countries forming trade agreements without us. Businesses not committing to any investment due to uncertainty. WGAF?!?!
The 401k stuff goes up and down everyday let’s not pretend those are short term investments. Increased prices? You must have hated Biden.
 
The D's were angry that the stock market was down.
Trump announces tariff increases on China, and a reduction to 10% for the other countries.
The stock market shoots way up.
The D's are pissed the stock market went up.
No. The Ds are pissed because they're not in charge, that's really all. Imagine if Trump weren't president and another Republican were...The Ds would still piss on everything regardless of what happened.

Pragmatic people will look at the current situation and reserve judgement for some point down the road... Ds feelings be damned.

Fact: this could end up very good, or very bad, and it's pretty clear Trump doesn't want to show his hand. Personally I hope we end up with near 0% tariffs on imports AND exports with almost/if not everyone.
 
No. The Ds are pissed because they're not in charge, that's really all. Imagine if Trump weren't president and another Republican were...The Ds would still piss on everything regardless of what happened.

Pragmatic people will look at the current situation and reserve judgement for some point down the road... Ds feelings be damned.

Fact: this could end up very good, or very bad, and it's pretty clear Trump doesn't want to show his hand. Personally I hope we end up with near 0% tariffs on imports AND exports with almost/if not everyone.

It doesn’t matter who is in charge, I’d be against unilateral massive tax increases in the form of tariffs.
 
Fact: this could end up very good, or very bad, and it's pretty clear Trump doesn't want to show his hand. Personally I hope we end up with near 0% tariffs on imports AND exports with almost/if not everyone
You have been a fairly smart and reasonable poster. Let's be honest though. There is no plan here by Trump. He just caved so how is that going to "bring jobs back" if he keeps caving every time? I'd rather not enter any trade war but if you are, be prepared to see it through. He clearly is shooting from the hip here.
 
The D's were angry that the stock market was down.
Trump announces tariff increases on China, and a reduction to 10% for the other countries.
The stock market shoots way up.
The D's are pissed the stock market went up.
They don't know what way is up right now they just know if the orange man did it that it must be bad.
 
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