Familiar with Timber Sycamore?
It seems like you’re unaware from the way you're writing these statements, but it also seems from your comments something you'd be interested in.
The existence of Timber Sycamore was revealed by The New York Times and Al Jazeera in June 2016, after Jane's Defence Weekly reported, in late 2015, that the US Federal Business Opportunities website was soliciting contracts to ship thousands of tons of weapons from Eastern Europe to Taşucu, Turkey and Aqaba, Jordan.
Are these sources ok?
https://www.salon.com
Millions of dollars worth of weapons the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and Saudi Arabia sent to Syrian rebels have been "systematically" stolen and sold to arms traffickers on the black market, according to an explosive joint investigation by The New York Times and Al Jazeera.
U.S. and Jordanian investigators do not know where most of the arms went, reviving fears that the deadly military-grade black market weapons could have ended up in the hands of criminal networks and extremist groups outside the country.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33997408
The goal was to train about 15,000 rebels in Jordan and other countries so they could return to Syria and fight. However, US defence officials admitted last month that only four or five of the recruits in the programme had actually returned to the battle.
https://www.nbcnews.com
U.S. Admits Syrian Rebels Gave Trucks, Ammo to Al Qaeda-Linked Group
The acknowledgement came from military officials who had denied reports of a transaction between New Syrian Forces and the Al Nusra Front.But hell, we meant well, right?
No, I haven’t. Can you quote what exactly you mistook to be me "clearly stating that the US intelligence should not monitor foreign governments and their activities."
I don’t confuse ‘monitoring foreign governments’ with arming jihadists to overthrow foreign governments.
I’m glad we can get back on subject.
No, not really.
We could have another thread on political leans (just copy and paste that one you put in Art's bday thread for a starter.
I find what events and choices shaped people's opinions interesting.
I have these discussions with folks less to change opinions, but more to learn what information (and as importantly lack thereof) shaped theirs.
In another thread, if you start with that one mentioned above, I'll do same to lay more groundwork on where I'm coming from.
But for this thread, the questions I'm interested in are:
1. Do you think all those people who warned about negative consequences from NATO expansion are secretly Russian assets?
2. Were William Perry and Robert Gates actually Putin puppets running the Pentagon?
3. Do you consider our role in the coup and sanctions threats to somehow not be violations of the Budapest Memorandum I quoted? If not, why not?
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