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State pays for other procedures. If it's necessary, available, and a cost on par with other procedures, then I can't see how you can deny it out of politics and personal feelings.

It's not politics and it's not personal feelings,.. It's their body, so go have the procedure,.. but unless it's a "medical" necessity, required to maintain physical, not mental, well being, the State should not foot the bill...
 
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Suicide rates for trans people denied affirming care are quite high. If the doctors determine, in this patients specific case, that it is necessary, then I don't see how you can deny it.

But to drill down in this further, plenty of inmates receive mental health medication for things like depression and anxiety. Should those be taken away if we're looking at the mental health angle of it?

If we made the prisons nicer and more importantly safer there would probably be a lot less of that.
 
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Pretty simple in my eyes. If the procedure can be established as medically necessary, you cannot deny it simply out of personal disgust.

Inmate is clearly a POS and deserves to rot. But picking and choosing what healthcare you will allow, because of politics, is not a sound position.
Animal......
 
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It's not politics and it's not personal feelings,.. It's their body, so go have the procedure,.. but unless it's a "medical" necessity, required to maintain physical, not mental, well being, the State should not foot the bill...
We've already established that inmates receive mental healthcare. Are you arguing that that should be taken away?
 
Like I said, I will defer completely to the doctors. If they say it's a nicety, but not necessary, then it should be deniable. But if they say it's necessary, and not a nicety, then I don't see how you can deny it if it's available and at a reasonable cost.

Carving off healthy body parts to elicit an improved mental outlook seems pretty phucked up,.. Go for it, but the State shouldn't lend support to the practice by paying the bill.
 
Why should a non cancer person pay for someone with cancer? Or a runner have to pay for someone in a wheelchair? If we're going down this route, then no inmate should get healthcare.
Sounds good to me. My SIL works in the OR at the university and she deals with multiple patients each week that come from the correctional facility. Most of them swallow something that has to be surgically removed because it gives the prisoner a way to get out of jail for a bit. Tell me exactly why we are paying for this?
 
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Pretty simple in my eyes. If the procedure can be established as medically necessary, you cannot deny it simply out of personal disgust.

Inmate is clearly a POS and deserves to rot. But picking and choosing what healthcare you will allow, because of politics, is not a sound position.
Gender surgery and abortions are not healthcare. The left is great at labeling things incorrectly.
 
Pretty simple in my eyes. If the procedure can be established as medically necessary, you cannot deny it simply out of personal disgust.

Inmate is clearly a POS and deserves to rot. But picking and choosing what healthcare you will allow, because of politics, is not a sound position.
Fvck that. Life saving surgery sure. Optional emotion surgery no.
 
He killed the baby 20 years ago. That ship has sailed. Keep him separated from society and let the lawyers, correctional officers, judges, etc deal with him. IDGAF about the relatively inconsequential tax dollars going to this stuff, I think anyone who does GAF is misallocating their consciousness. You couldn’t pay me to care about this individual as long as they are locked away from society, I sure as hell wouldn’t worry for free. I am happily enjoying not GAF about stuff like this. Join me.
 
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Than you have decided that the fundamentals of government by democracy and the alliances that have maintained peace and relative prosperity in the free world for 70 years are less important than your culture war issues.

That a dictator who rules the way you like is better than an elected president who rules differently.

And that's fine that's your right to decide that. But be honest about what you are deciding for. Because history shows people who attempt coups against democratically elected governments and gain power don't usually leave power without bloodshed.
So, you really don’t think that if Trump wins, he won’t leave the White House after 4 years? He has stated that he will and his age dictates that will be the case. Use some common sense.
 
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I'm not going to ask anyone to defend anything. I would ask the more intelligent Democrat members of the board to seriously ask themselves if the democratic party has allowed the inmates to run the asylum. There are those of you on here that vote Dem but are intelligent enough to realize we have pandered to stupidity for far to long.



( and incase you need the dots connected, 4 years of Kamala only fuels the stupidity)
 
I'm not going to ask anyone to defend anything. I would ask the more intelligent Democrat members of the board to seriously ask themselves if the democratic party has allowed the inmates to run the asylum. There are those of you on here that vote Dem but are intelligent enough to realize we have pandered to stupidity for far to long.
Catering to the lowest common denominator is killing our country and it has to stop
 
So, you really don’t think that if Trump wins, he won’t leave the White House after 4 years? He has stated that he will and his age dictates that will be the case. Use some common sense.

He lost the election in 2020 and attempted a coup to stop from leaving.

Trump has also insisted that he didn't have sex with Stormy Daniels but for some reason wanted to give her hundreds of thousands of dollars for an NDA.

He's also been saying he'd have a healthcare plan in 2 weeks. for the last 8 years.
 
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Both absolutely are healthcare.
They’re unnecessary elective procedures to the physical health of a patient (with rare exceptions in the case of abortion).

Getting a Brazilian wax or boob job could be considered healthcare too then, if you want to go that route.
 
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Not up for me to decide. Or you. If the doctors say it's necessary then you have to accept that. Otherwise you can start denying all sorts of medically necessary procedures out of politics.
Doctors should start denying you Biktarvy.
 
So, you really don’t think that if Trump wins, he won’t leave the White House after 4 years? He has stated that he will and his age dictates that will be the case. Use some common sense.
Trump could quite possibly refuse to vacate the White House unless he is forced to or passes away in office.

I remember when Trump apologists said Trump would accept the results of an election and not try to undermine democracy. Well, we all know how that turned out.

You guys are really playing with fire here just to try to stick it to the libs. It’s not a good idea, and once that genie is out of the bottle all bets are off.

Perhaps you should further reflect on the meaning of common sense.
 
Physically being inside the White House does not make anyone president,... Stop worrying.
Confused Joe Biden GIF by CBS News
 
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They’re unnecessary elective procedures to the physical health of a patient (with rare exceptions in the case of abortion).

Getting a Brazilian wax or boob job could be considered healthcare too then, if you want to go that route.
They're not unnecessary elective procedures. So basing your opposition to this on argument is a non starter.
 
They’re unnecessary elective procedures to the physical health of a patient (with rare exceptions in the case of abortion).

Getting a Brazilian wax or boob job could be considered healthcare too then, if you want to go that route.
Well I’m going to take a wild guess that you’re not a medical professional and that you’re so completely out of your lane. So essentially your opinion on this is worth about a half bucket of spit.
 
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