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Living legend? Seriously now....

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Living Legends do not have a .580 Conference winning percentage....they do not stand head and shoulders above their peers in losses when favored by double digits. Getting more than a little tired of the "We could do much worse crowd" when you have a 30 something year old Lincoln Riley shooting for a National Championship in year ONE...after not taking over until summer. Seriously, I'm just getting tired of watching other teams play for National Championships. And please do not give me 2015...that was nothing more than easy scheduling. Longevity, running a clean program, and being a good guy does not make you a living legend....sorry.

So Hayden fry isn’t a legend either from your logic.

Also Lincoln Riley was handed the keys to a top 10 team with a Heisman winning qb. Lot of coaches could’ve done the same thing with that roster this year.
 
Go be a Tennessee fan for a while. They have more 4 and 5 star recruits on their roster each year than Iowa has had this century and most years we have a much better team than they do. I am not always in agreement with Coach Ferentz’s game day decisions, (A) but he has kept Iowa as a relevant Big Ten program.
(B) each year Iowa is in the top 20 as far as value goes according to Forbes.

Bottom line big Frank. You are probably just trolling or you are none too bright. Either way, you have no idea what you are talking about.

A. Sub-relevant

B. Did I miss the IPO or did the Ferentz family claim it?
 
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Living Legends do not have a .580 Conference winning percentage....they do not stand head and shoulders above their peers in losses when favored by double digits. Getting more than a little tired of the "We could do much worse crowd" when you have a 30 something year old Lincoln Riley shooting for a National Championship in year ONE...after not taking over until summer. Seriously, I'm just getting tired of watching other teams play for National Championships. And please do not give me 2015...that was nothing more than easy scheduling. Longevity, running a clean program, and being a good guy does not make you a living legend....sorry.

Iowa isnt going to recruit the type of talent needed to consistently compete for a national title. Just a fact. Not nearly enough in state talent to do so. When u have new coaching staffs all over the place around us with young, energetic coaches it makes it even harder to recruit.

Kirk is a living Legend for the following facts. Not counting first 2 yrs of his tenure due to rebuilding time. Which is fair.
1) A .610 conference winning %
2)His teams are the reason Iowa pumped in close to $200M in total renovations to Kinnick and other facilities
3) There have been close to 500 players to go thru that program in Kirk's tenure and the only guy to talk sh** about Kirk was DJK. And I think we all know how much of a lowlife DJK is.
4) 5 top 10 national finishes
5) Every ex player who works in college football media will tell you Iowa is about as well coached as any team in the country. The guys who think people like Harbaugh are better coaches are people that have never played the game. The people who really know the game know Kirk is one of the best ever.
 
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That's a great question, and I can't answer it. I do remember the summer we hired Greg Davis. We were on vacation and met some folks from Texas. They couldn't believe we hired him. Said he ran the Texas offense into the ground. I guess what I'm saying there is it would have been good, maybe to go after an OC that was seeing great success somewhere else or had a strong resume. Hayden built an incredible legacy/coaching tree - one of the all time best in college football history. Who has Kirk developed to the next level?

One of the things we are strongly measured on in the corporate world is talent development/management. We are graded on hiring/developing/promoting hi-potential managers and supervisors to be tomorrow's managers and VPs. I can tell you one thing that is not allowed, in any situation, is a relative reporting directly, or even indirectly, to another relative. It has to do with accountability and dynamics. For example, in the case of Iowa, if an assistant coach has a legitimate issue with Brian, who is he going to go to? No one, or Kirk gets rid of him. Makes for bad team dynamics, because in a bad situation, suddenly BF could become a "Jared Kushner" type of untouchable figure (I know, bad example).

Wow!.....that was a flying pack of bumblebees.
 
Ferentz is a legend and will be in the college football HOF someday. He has consistently done more with less and consistently puts a winning/respected program on the field year in and year out. He puts players in the NFL at a higher rate than most P5 programs. I think our delusional fans look at Wisconsin and think "we can do that" and maybe we can but there are very, very few coaches out there that could have had the success Ferentz has had at Iowa.
 
Ferentz is a legend and will be in the college football HOF someday. He has consistently done more with less and consistently puts a winning/respected program on the field year in and year out. He puts players in the NFL at a higher rate than most P5 programs. I think our delusional fans look at Wisconsin and think "we can do that" and maybe we can but there are very, very few coaches out there that could have had the success Ferentz has had at Iowa.


How about consistently trying to DO more WITH more?
 
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Living Legends do not have a .580 Conference winning percentage....they do not stand head and shoulders above their peers in losses when favored by double digits. Getting more than a little tired of the "We could do much worse crowd" when you have a 30 something year old Lincoln Riley shooting for a National Championship in year ONE...after not taking over until summer. Seriously, I'm just getting tired of watching other teams play for National Championships. And please do not give me 2015...that was nothing more than easy scheduling. Longevity, running a clean program, and being a good guy does not make you a living legend....sorry.
Jees...... we all like to see Iowa play for it all, but Lincoln Riley? Seriously? Do you think maybe he had the table set for him? :confused:
 
KF has been a fine coach for Iowa, but he's hardly of legendary status. And if you're paid millions of dollars for a couple of decades, I don't see why some people think it's so amazing that some of those millions are donated to worthy causes. C'mon, people. Be reasonable.
True enough, but its not usually Iowa fans who call him a legend. Its the people who cover the game, because they see what goes on elsewhere. The constant turnover, the cheating, the total disregard for any moral standard. The fact that two coaches have lasted 40 years at one university, who fields a respectable and at least somewhat relevant football program is commendable, and somewhat remarkable actually.
 
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Ferentz is a legend and will be in the college football HOF someday. He has consistently done more with less and consistently puts a winning/respected program on the field year in and year out. He puts players in the NFL at a higher rate than most P5 programs. I think our delusional fans look at Wisconsin and think "we can do that" and maybe we can but there are very, very few coaches out there that could have had the success Ferentz has had at Iowa.

Thats just what you want to think though.

Basically weve been a 7 wins on average team for 40 years with some highs and lows mixed in.

Kirk was the right man for the time in the 2000s, his nfl approach worked at that point in time.

Allot has changed since then but not Iowa.

To say no one else could produce the results we've seen the last 8 years is silly IMO.
 
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Living Legends do not have a .580 Conference winning percentage....they do not stand head and shoulders above their peers in losses when favored by double digits. Getting more than a little tired of the "We could do much worse crowd" when you have a 30 something year old Lincoln Riley shooting for a National Championship in year ONE...after not taking over until summer. Seriously, I'm just getting tired of watching other teams play for National Championships. And please do not give me 2015...that was nothing more than easy scheduling. Longevity, running a clean program, and being a good guy does not make you a living legend....sorry.

Do you really think that Bill Snyder isn't a legend, that is still living? 66% win rate vs. 60%, and Snyder has a 60% conference record. What he did was miraculous, and should be recognized as such. Whether you think that about KF or not (especially compared to HF) is a different story, but to look at record and championships is ridiculous.
 
Do you really think that Bill Snyder isn't a legend, that is still living? 66% win rate vs. 60%, and Snyder has a 60% conference record. What he did was miraculous, and should be recognized as such. Whether you think that about KF or not (especially compared to HF) is a different story, but to look at record and championships is ridiculous.





I think the discussion concerned an alleged Kirk Ferentz' legendary status involvement at any level.




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Do you really think that Bill Snyder isn't a legend, that is still living? 66% win rate vs. 60%, and Snyder has a 60% conference record. What he did was miraculous, and should be recognized as such. Whether you think that about KF or not (especially compared to HF) is a different story, but to look at record and championships is ridiculous.
 
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Living Legends do not have a .580 Conference winning percentage....they do not stand head and shoulders above their peers in losses when favored by double digits. Getting more than a little tired of the "We could do much worse crowd" when you have a 30 something year old Lincoln Riley shooting for a National Championship in year ONE...after not taking over until summer. Seriously, I'm just getting tired of watching other teams play for National Championships. And please do not give me 2015...that was nothing more than easy scheduling. Longevity, running a clean program, and being a good guy does not make you a living legend....sorry.

Stoops left that program better than he found it. Wish we could say the same about Captain Contract.
 
Finally wins a bowl game after a 7 year drought and people want to call him a legend? Unbelievable.
I would not call him a “legend”, but he has sure done a great job of running the Iowa football program the past 19 years. Even trolls like you can’t argue that.
 
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Stoops left that program better than he found it. Wish we could say the same about Captain Contract.

KF hasn't left the program. If he retired now, how could you possibly claim he didn't leave it better than HF left it for him? Edit: I think I misunderstood your post, you are saying Lincoln Riley should get less credit for taking over a well-placed program. Nevermind.
 
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I would not call him a “legend”, but he has sure done a great job of running the Iowa football program the past 19 years. Even trolls like you can’t argue that.
You do know that this thread is about calling KF a legend or not. Sounds like you agree with me and don't even realize it. Nice. o_O
 
You do know that this thread is about calling KF a legend or not. Sounds like you agree with me and don't even realize it. Nice. o_O
So we do agree. Thank you troll. He may not be a legend now, but years after he retires, he certainly will be. I truly never thought that I would ever see eye to eye with someone as negative as you. Maybe something to do with the New Year?
 
KF is very under appreciated. I have a few friends that want him fired. Every one of their football knowledge falls from “couldn’t fill a thimble” to “knows just enough to be dangerous”.
 
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