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If you want mid-range shots watch the Spurs. Aldridge & DeRozan will get you your fill.
Analytics influence at play, de-emphasizing taking (and therefore practicing) a mid range jumper.
This is why I believe they need to push out the 3 point line to where the ABA had it (25 feet) - if not farther. There has to be a length where the 3 pt percentages would reduce enough to make a 2 pointer an equal value.
To me, a suitable length is 25 while eliminating the corner 3 - instead of straightening the corner lines of the arc (to keep the shot in court), simply end the arc where it'd cross the sideline.
In short, eliminate the near 40% three shown here, push every other shot to the 33.33% range.
This is why I believe they need to push out the 3 point line to where the ABA had it (25 feet) - if not farther. There has to be a length where the 3 pt percentages would reduce enough to make a 2 pointer an equal value.
To me, a suitable length is 25 while eliminating the corner 3 - instead of straightening the corner lines of the arc (to keep the shot in court), simply end the arc where it'd cross the sideline.
In short, eliminate the near 40% three shown here, push every other shot to the 33.33% range.
Eric McCollum, though he's shooting more threes, now, too. G League, which serves as the NBA's test lab for proposed rules changes, should experiment with eliminating the three altogether. The strategic advantages of having guys on the roster with deep range remains, stretching defense, opening up spacing.
Shout out to Charles. Nice. That was one hard working dude. The early version of Dennis Rodman reminded me of Oak.
Yup. Enforcer and literal loan shark of the league. You did not want to get behind on your payments from what I heard. He developed that 20 footer to perfection with the Knicks.
Analytics influence at play, de-emphasizing taking (and therefore practicing) a mid range jumper.
This is why I believe they need to push out the 3 point line to where the ABA had it (25 feet) - if not farther. There has to be a length where the 3 pt percentages would reduce enough to make a 2 pointer an equal value.
To me, a suitable length is 25 while eliminating the corner 3 - instead of straightening the corner lines of the arc (to keep the shot in court), simply end the arc where it'd cross the sideline.
In short, eliminate the near 40% three shown here, push every other shot to the 33.33% range.
Interesting graphic!
The Iowa Hawkeye QB/WR from the mid 2000s?
I know you were referring to CJ. G League is great for experiments but not sure I like that idea. Would rather them eliminate defensive 3 second rule first, see how that goes.
So are you implying that you are a fan of potentially eliminating the three point shot?
I miss Dirk Nowitzki already. Also think about Brandon Roy. His career angers me. Dude was just getting started.
The microwave ... Vinnie Johnson ... king of the mid range
And the poster ...
And the poster ...
I'm saying I'm interested in experimenting and observing the experimentation.
We do this at the gym sometimes. If we have exactly 10 guys and it's a good group we'll play a seven game series, changing the rules for each game. Some games, no threes—all buckets one point. It's interesting to see how the game adjusts, and how quickly.
My four favorite players ever are Nash, Kidd, Diaw, & Nowitzki.
The 2011 Mavs are my favorite team. Roy was pretty much done by this point. Portland was down 18 heading into the 4th, then Roy had 18 points in the quarter and lead them to a comeback to tie the series at 2. Mavs went 16-5 that postseason, nobody played them tougher in those playoffs than the Blazers. That was Roy's last great game.
I’m the opposite. My post moves suck now and I can’t hit shit from deep.
However I’m deadly from 6-12 feet.
I got to hoop with Nash once. /csb1
Coached Kidd's kid at a basketball camp. /csb2
I am tempted to agree also as far as trying it out to see what happens.
I'm old enough to remember when there was no 3 point shot in the NBA. Scoring wasn't really an issue, and the game seemed like it had a lot more flow to it because all shots were equal in value point-wise.
It just seems like a lot of offensive strategy has gone out of the pro game nowadays. Now - I will never state that the quality of play is bad - just stylistically it doesn't appeal to me as it did when I was younger.
I simply feel that today's game NBA devalues the two pointer too much. There has to be a happy medium with the 3 pointer distance-wise to where the two pointer is of equal value shot % wise.
I get you. I would probably watch some G League games if they adjusted the rules a bit. Fun to watch that. Kind of like they do in college with the NIT.
Adrian Dantley. Young Mark Aguirre. Bernard King. Andrew Toney. There's so many. English's numbers are gaudy in part because of the system they ran (at altitude), just running nutso for 48 minutes.
The Spurs thought they had an edge by picking up a bunch of mid-range shooters. They thought they'd excel in the playoffs where the mid-range game becomes much more important. But little did they know, 1) they didn't have enough talent to even make the playoffs, 2) DeRozan disappears when the spotlight shines bright 3) Aldridge and DeRozan aren't superstars.
They had to get something since Leonard wanted out. They did take the 2 seed Nuggets to 7 games last season, without Murray.
Marcus Morris screwed them over in the summer, causing them to have to get rid of Bertans. The Wizards are actually fun to watch with the Bertans/Wagner front court, and Beal doing everything up top.
I was thinking George Gervin, too, so I went to watch a highlight reel. Check out the shorts at the 2:09 mark! @naturalmwa, @NoleATL and the ladies surely can appreciate the designer's strategy to accentuate the human form.
Thinking of current-day mid-range players, I can't believe nobody got this far without mentioning Chris Paul.
If you wanted to bring back the mid-range game, have the 23'9" current line disappear into the sideline , rather than squaring up and making the shorter corner 3. That way, less attention has to be given defensively to the corner 3, as it stands, NBA defenses have to be built with guarding that as pretty much a number 1 priority.
When Steve Kerr was hitting his percentages (albeit a lot of that time with the 22' arc), the thing stopping him from taking 10 a game was you never really had 4 or 5 great 3 shooters on the floor. Now that you do have those stretch bigs everywhere, it's easier for those guards to go around a high ball screen and line up because the guarding player didn't have to worry about Kerr dropping it off to Luc Longley off a high screen for Luc to take an open 3.
If you wanted to bring back the mid-range game, have the 23'9" current line disappear into the sideline , rather than squaring up and making the shorter corner 3. That way, less attention has to be given defensively to the corner 3, as it stands, NBA defenses have to be built with guarding that as pretty much a number 1 priority.
When Steve Kerr was hitting his percentages (albeit a lot of that time with the 22' arc), the thing stopping him from taking 10 a game was you never really had 4 or 5 great 3 shooters on the floor. Now that you do have those stretch bigs everywhere, it's easier for those guards to go around a high ball screen and line up because the guarding player didn't have to worry about Kerr dropping it off to Luc Longley off a high screen for Luc to take an open 3.
Paul is an all time mid-range shooter for sure.
The best today are: Paul, Curry, Durant, McCollum, Booker, Middleton, Leonard, DeRozan, Aldridge, and Beal. I'm probably missing 3-5 more that are up there, but volume is low.
My first hoop in competitive basketball was in 4H and it was waived off for traveling. On top of that I was called for 3 second numerous times.
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Steph has a middling to good mid range game. He's in the mid 40s at that range with limited spacing. Rondo is way better. He is around 50% with a lot more saturated spacing.
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I've done a lot of things, but I have yet to play basketball naked. It is now on my bucket list.
