we're going back to "FREEDOM FRIES" now, aren't we?
Macron has to correct Bonespurs...
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Duuuuhhhh... what's my wife's name?
"yeah macron is looking rough." - any maga
Listen carefully to what Macron says. He's a former Rothschild banker, so he understands how this is structured.
They offered loans and grants, with responsibility to pay up to 60% on default.
From what I've read the aid in kind comes from individuals countries, as well as refugee and humanitarian aid spending, whereas the EU funding is through loan vehicles.
That's what the discussion about Russian reserves (which Macron touches on in the video) revolved around - repaying the EU loans with the earnings of the frozen Russian assets (which would be stealing from the Russians in the Russians eyes).
This loan is but an example, but almost everything you hear termed 'financial assistance' has been a western backed loan.
No small part of the reason the US was dragged into WW1 by Wall Street was because England and France said they were ready to throw in the towel and they weren't going to be able to repay their war bonds. That's why the inter-war years saw the ending of loans to belligerents for arms sales.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/it/ip_25_223
The European Commission has disbursed today the first €3 billion tranche of its exceptional Macro-Financial Assistance (MFA) loan for Ukraine, which will be repaid with proceeds from immobilised Russian State assets in the EU. This loan, amounting up to €18.1 billion, represents the EU's contribution to the G7-led Extraordinary Revenue Acceleration (ERA) loans initiative, which collectively aims to provide approximately €45 billion in financial support to Ukraine. This initial disbursement highlights the EU's unwavering commitment to helping Ukraine confront Russia's full-scale war of aggression, maintain macroeconomic and fiscal stability, rebuild vital infrastructure, including its energy systems, and invest in defence infrastructure.
What is this exceptional MFA package and how does it work?
This MFA is crucial for addressing Ukraine's urgent budgetary needs, which have considerably risen in the face of Russia's intensified and prolonged war of aggression. With the stable, regular, and predictable financial support of up to €18.1 billion to be disbursed in 2025 under this instrument, Ukraine will be able to support its current and future military, budget and reconstruction needs. This loan will be able to ensure macroeconomic stability and restore critical infrastructure destroyed by Russia, such as energy infrastructure, water systems, transport networks, roads and bridges. Furthermore, the loan can be used by Ukraine to directly support its military expenses. At the same time, by stabilising public finances, this assistance will also enable Ukraine to allocate resources to other priority expenditures, including military defence infrastructure against Russian aggression.
The MFA instrument offers high flexibility and very favourable terms to Ukraine, with very long maturities which can extend to up to 45 years. Importantly, Ukraine is not expected to directly repay the loan from its own resources. Instead, the repayment will be ensured through the extraordinary profits from immobilised Russian assets collected from the Ukraine Loan Cooperation Mechanism (ULCM), sending a clear signal that the burden of rebuilding Ukraine will be shouldered by those responsible for its destruction.
Russia didn't really have assets invested in the U.S. to freeze, at least nothing compared to what was in Europe.
Trump says, "hey, we gave billions too, how are you gonna guarantee we get that repaid?"
It will be interesting to see the details in the mineral rights proposal, and not the misleading headlines. I suspect it's to more akin to paying some royalty into a sovereign fund that then earns on those assets to pay off the loans. At the end of that process the Ukrainians have the fund's assets, but it also serves as the collateral while the loan is being paid off.
We've sent way more value in military hardware with our aid:
Honest question, how does that work? Do you work with an agency here or is it all done in Russia?
Again, we’re in the Axis of Evil now. Incredible what Republicans have done to America.
So just a couple takeaways from this.
Listen carefully to what Macron says. He's a former Rothschild banker, so he understands how this is structured.
They offered loans and grants, with responsibility to pay up to 60% on default.
From what I've read the aid in kind comes from individuals countries, as well as refugee and humanitarian aid spending, whereas the EU funding is through loan vehicles.
That's what the discussion about Russian reserves (which Macron touches on in the video) revolved around - repaying the EU loans with the earnings of the frozen Russian assets (which would be stealing from the Russians in the Russians eyes).
This loan is but an example, but almost everything you hear termed 'financial assistance' has been a western backed loan.
No small part of the reason the US was dragged into WW1 by Wall Street was because England and France said they were ready to throw in the towel and they weren't going to be able to repay their war bonds. That's why the inter-war years saw the ending of loans to belligerents for arms sales.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/it/ip_25_223
The European Commission has disbursed today the first €3 billion tranche of its exceptional Macro-Financial Assistance (MFA) loan for Ukraine, which will be repaid with proceeds from immobilised Russian State assets in the EU. This loan, amounting up to €18.1 billion, represents the EU's contribution to the G7-led Extraordinary Revenue Acceleration (ERA) loans initiative, which collectively aims to provide approximately €45 billion in financial support to Ukraine. This initial disbursement highlights the EU's unwavering commitment to helping Ukraine confront Russia's full-scale war of aggression, maintain macroeconomic and fiscal stability, rebuild vital infrastructure, including its energy systems, and invest in defence infrastructure.
What is this exceptional MFA package and how does it work?
This MFA is crucial for addressing Ukraine's urgent budgetary needs, which have considerably risen in the face of Russia's intensified and prolonged war of aggression. With the stable, regular, and predictable financial support of up to €18.1 billion to be disbursed in 2025 under this instrument, Ukraine will be able to support its current and future military, budget and reconstruction needs. This loan will be able to ensure macroeconomic stability and restore critical infrastructure destroyed by Russia, such as energy infrastructure, water systems, transport networks, roads and bridges. Furthermore, the loan can be used by Ukraine to directly support its military expenses. At the same time, by stabilising public finances, this assistance will also enable Ukraine to allocate resources to other priority expenditures, including military defence infrastructure against Russian aggression.
The MFA instrument offers high flexibility and very favourable terms to Ukraine, with very long maturities which can extend to up to 45 years. Importantly, Ukraine is not expected to directly repay the loan from its own resources. Instead, the repayment will be ensured through the extraordinary profits from immobilised Russian assets collected from the Ukraine Loan Cooperation Mechanism (ULCM), sending a clear signal that the burden of rebuilding Ukraine will be shouldered by those responsible for its destruction.
Russia didn't really have assets invested in the U.S. to freeze, at least nothing compared to what was in Europe.
Trump says, "hey, we gave billions too, how are you gonna guarantee we get that repaid?"
It will be interesting to see the details in the mineral rights proposal, and not the misleading headlines. I suspect it's to more akin to paying some royalty into a sovereign fund that then earns on those assets to pay off the loans. At the end of that process the Ukrainians have the fund's assets, but it also serves as the collateral while the loan is being paid off.
We've sent way more value in military hardware with our aid:
1. By using frozen Russian assets to make good on the aid sent to Ukraine, the EU is using the “we’ll make Mexico pay for the border wall” technique, with the only difference being that EU’s approach will actually work.
2. Russia does actually have significant investments in the US; it’s just that those investments are predominantly with Trump, Trump Organization, and various aligned entities like the NRA.
He's such a pussy. Everytime he meets another leader he slumps down like a little bitch and let's the other guy light him up.
Which is why Bonespurs is a lapdog to Putin, and Putin worked so hard, in all 3 elections, to get him elected.
Every day Trump’s goal must be to “out-Trump” himself from the day before. He’s a putz on most days. A real bore of a person. He adds nothing to the quality of life for most folks.
Macron just bitch slapped him for all to see. See all you Repubs, it isnt that hard to do!!!
Just call him out and go down in history as a strong person, a champion of the country.
Ok, stupid troll, I have to ask are you on Putin's side? Do you love putin?
If Putin doesnt take Ukraine then he has lost. If Trump lets Putin win then there will be more invasions and wars and it will be against Nato at some time and then we are in the so called shooting war and we lose US live and limbs and we spend a ton of money.. So we shouldnt have to pay Ukraine back because they are doing the work for us.
Ofcourse it would take a Frenchman to remind an American what being free means.
What's even more amazing is that Macron shut Trump down in English. Could you imagine Trump shutting anyone down in French? In Spanish? In any language? Trump can't even handle the Frenchman in his own native tongue.
Back in January of 2003 my wife and I spent 3 weeks in Siberia. We had spent the previous 8 or 9 months going through the process with an agency out of Ohio. We brought back one boy and one very sick little girl. That was before Putin ordered a stop to adoptions by U.S. citizens in response to the United States passing Magnitsky Act. That order essentially sentenced thousands of Russian orphans to lives of poverty, sickness, and death. The ruined lives and deaths of those children, just as the lives of so many children in this war are on that piece of shit's hands. They have made it a policy to abduct thousands of Ukrainian children during the war as well. He's pure evil scum, and today our government sides with him. We should feel complete and utter shame as Americans today.
Just get a mail order bride. You would think there is a discounts for kids though.
They’re not going to read this. If they try they won’t understand it. They’ll just repeat what they saw on some random tweet and act elite like @bcherod did in her post. Her post will prove over time to be another in a long line of inaccurate posts.
Listen carefully to what Macron says. He's a former Rothschild banker, so he understands how this is structured.
They offered loans and grants, with responsibility to pay up to 60% on default.
From what I've read the aid in kind comes from individuals countries, as well as refugee and humanitarian aid spending, whereas the EU funding is through loan vehicles.
That's what the discussion about Russian reserves (which Macron touches on in the video) revolved around - repaying the EU loans with the earnings of the frozen Russian assets (which would be stealing from the Russians in the Russians eyes).
This loan is but an example, but almost everything you hear termed 'financial assistance' has been a western backed loan.
No small part of the reason the US was dragged into WW1 by Wall Street was because England and France said they were ready to throw in the towel and they weren't going to be able to repay their war bonds. That's why the inter-war years saw the ending of loans to belligerents for arms sales.
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/it/ip_25_223
The European Commission has disbursed today the first €3 billion tranche of its exceptional Macro-Financial Assistance (MFA) loan for Ukraine, which will be repaid with proceeds from immobilised Russian State assets in the EU. This loan, amounting up to €18.1 billion, represents the EU's contribution to the G7-led Extraordinary Revenue Acceleration (ERA) loans initiative, which collectively aims to provide approximately €45 billion in financial support to Ukraine. This initial disbursement highlights the EU's unwavering commitment to helping Ukraine confront Russia's full-scale war of aggression, maintain macroeconomic and fiscal stability, rebuild vital infrastructure, including its energy systems, and invest in defence infrastructure.
What is this exceptional MFA package and how does it work?
This MFA is crucial for addressing Ukraine's urgent budgetary needs, which have considerably risen in the face of Russia's intensified and prolonged war of aggression. With the stable, regular, and predictable financial support of up to €18.1 billion to be disbursed in 2025 under this instrument, Ukraine will be able to support its current and future military, budget and reconstruction needs. This loan will be able to ensure macroeconomic stability and restore critical infrastructure destroyed by Russia, such as energy infrastructure, water systems, transport networks, roads and bridges. Furthermore, the loan can be used by Ukraine to directly support its military expenses. At the same time, by stabilising public finances, this assistance will also enable Ukraine to allocate resources to other priority expenditures, including military defence infrastructure against Russian aggression.
The MFA instrument offers high flexibility and very favourable terms to Ukraine, with very long maturities which can extend to up to 45 years. Importantly, Ukraine is not expected to directly repay the loan from its own resources. Instead, the repayment will be ensured through the extraordinary profits from immobilised Russian assets collected from the Ukraine Loan Cooperation Mechanism (ULCM), sending a clear signal that the burden of rebuilding Ukraine will be shouldered by those responsible for its destruction.
Russia didn't really have assets invested in the U.S. to freeze, at least nothing compared to what was in Europe.
Trump says, "hey, we gave billions too, how are you gonna guarantee we get that repaid?"
It will be interesting to see the details in the mineral rights proposal, and not the misleading headlines. I suspect it's to more akin to paying some royalty into a sovereign fund that then earns on those assets to pay off the loans. At the end of that process the Ukrainians have the fund's assets, but it also serves as the collateral while the loan is being paid off.
We've sent way more value in military hardware with our aid:
It’s really entertaining actually. I saw these tweets and reports earlier today and was waiting for one of the fish to take it hook, line and sinker. I’m surprised it took them this long to start to repeat their daily taking point.
Why do you think Trump isn't something we've seen before? Tell us what enamors him to you?
I absolutely loved it. But, French is one of my languages.
The nuance was incredible and any European would totally have understood what Macron said, as well as educated Americans.
He played Trump and Trump didn’t realize how he was being played.
The icing on the cake, Macron corrected Trumps made up numbers.
Meanwhile back in NYC. We take in a lot more money from the UN being in NY than we spend on it. It’s actually an asset. Of course, getting rid of it would hurt NY, and he’s mad at NY right now.
I bet your girl defenses are lazy and undisciplined.
If you think 1/46th the assets is comparable:
Most frozen assets, by far, reside in Europe ($217 billion (€201 billion) to $230 billion (€210 billion)), with the United States holding just a small portion ($5 billion (€4.5 billion))
Ukraine is actually a good example of the ‘disaster capitalism’ practiced by the elites.
Provoke the Russians into predictably attacking, then have western governments come to the ‘rescue’ with aid that just happens to funnel through banks with guarantees that exist to make sure the banks don’t suffer a loss. Remember, the loan guarantees aren’t to protect Ukraine’s credit scores, they’re to protect the participating banks from any risk whatsoever for their cut.
Provoke the Russians into predictably attacking, then have western governments come to the ‘rescue’ with aid that just happens to funnel through banks with guarantees that exist to make sure the banks don’t suffer a loss. Remember, the loan guarantees aren’t to protect Ukraine’s credit scores, they’re to protect the participating banks from any risk whatsoever for their cut.
The truth is whatever Trump says is the truth. All the yes men agree.
The truth is the EU has provided loans, OP is mistaken.
Oh really, The mental midget gave the impression hes brain dead and had no idea what France paid or even cared.
What you should concentrate on is why the media is reporting this the way they are.
Essentially France and the EU loaned the funds with a guarantee.
Why is this being reported otherwise?
FWIW no one has enough information on the proposed security guarantees to Ukraine and what Russia is going to be asked to do. This is posturing, including the US UN vote. Predictably people are jumping to conclusions. It’s entertaining.
What is revealing is US media reporting and people willingness to believe things that aren’t true. As evidenced by this entire thread. I mean all the evidence to the contrary has been posted and yet people still take the partisan talking point. Useful idiots for the MIC.
I'm guessing it will be the last "joint" press conference he has that's not with an islamic state country or one without a dictator.
elites from a guy that loves musk trump and oligarchs. rich
I finally had to pull the trigger on him. Watched him pull his head out of Trump’s ass one too many times.
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So weird
Huh, surprised the self described genius got schooled by some Frenchie.
