If db in the stands doesn't throw a beer, nothing happens.
Malice at the Palace
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If db in the stands doesn't throw a beer, nothing happens.
Or... if there was actual security and police on-hand, likely nothing happens. There’s a reason (and it’s sad thst) a lot of nba players hire their own security now to be at games.
I watched it live and remember seeing the replay and immediately wishing the players beat the shit out of more fans. It was awful behavior.
I enjoyed it. I didn’t know a fair amount of aftermath and consequences. Was also interesting to go through the racism lens 20 years later.
Watched it last night, didn't really tell me anything I didn't already know. The lack of accountability on all sides makes me not feel sorry for anyone involved. I will say this though, Ron Metta World Peace Artest is one crazy MF... Him and Rodman would have been interesting to see play against each other.
I heard he only threw it cause Ron Dumb Dumb said he was thirsty.
(on a serious note you;re right. But, you missed my point that still came AFTER artest acted like a total D-bag. If he just goes to the bench after the under the basket scuffle. Its over. Instead he goes and lays across teh scoring table for the home team right in full view of everybody)
It's Detroit. It takes us 45 minutes to respond to a homicide. Do you think we care about a little scuffle at a basketball game?
I thought it was well done. Never would have thought they could turn the occurrence into a 1hr/9min show. Worth watching.
NSF
Bill Burr's thoughts on the Malice in the Palace starts at 2:45 mark.
Bill Burr's thoughts on the Malice in the Palace starts at 2:45 mark.
What stood out is how easily sportscasters and others referred to the players involved as thugs. There is a lot of criticism to go around, but immediately going to a word with racial undertones is noticeable.
The other thing that pops out is yes, Artest committed a hard foul, but Ben Wallace's reaction was over the top. The Pistons were not happy they were dominated and Ben Wallace let the Pacers know. The brawl could have been easily avoided.
The other thing that pops out is yes, Artest committed a hard foul, but Ben Wallace's reaction was over the top. The Pistons were not happy they were dominated and Ben Wallace let the Pacers know. The brawl could have been easily avoided.
I think that word only had so much racial undertones later and because of events like this. Back then it didn't ring with racism like it would if said now.
I thought of the exact same incident at the time , which brings me to...
...At the time, as a guy who is more of a hockey fan, it was obvious many in the media talked very differently about the basketball players than they did the hockey players. Mike Milbury was just chuckled at, and the attitude of it was “that’s hockey players and fans for ya.”
Look at you. Trying to determine what is acceptable, what might "deserve" a fan throwing something. JFC. And I'll never understand the hate for MWP. He's been super-open about his struggles, his traumas growing up, how they affect him, how he's learning to process and improve as a human.
Does his honesty and openness scare you? Threaten you?
I think you missed the part in the last 12 years where ANYC has admitted plenty of times he grew up in Detroit.
(and I don't really give a flip about MWP or what he's done afterwards. He was a dirty player in the 03-04 range and a tool bag that night. I don't have to like him. There is no requirement. Just like I will never ever root for the Avs or one of their players)
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I always thought the players got a raw deal. Wallace was the one who lit the match... guy who tossed drink at Artest started the fire and Ron going into the crowd was pouring gas on the flames. The lack of security was alarming to say the least. NBA learned from this because it's like Ft. Knox at games now. Maybe I missed it... but what was the Green guy who tossed drinks criminal penalty?
Based on my previous 46K posts, that shouldn't be such a shock.
Well considering i had 30K before likes existed, catching up wasn't gonna be an overnight process.
Never forget getting back to the hotel that night after pre-gaming for the Iowa Wisconsin football game Saturday (first, and by far best experience at Kinnick ever), flipping on the TV, turning to ESPN and finding out about that fiasco.
We were all wasted and thought it was hilarious
We were all wasted and thought it was hilarious
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