Mariah Carey, Chubby Checker, Cyndi Lauper, OutKast and Phish get Rock Hall nominations
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The 2025 nominees for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame are:
-Bad Company
-The Black Crowes
-Mariah Carey
-Chubby Checker
-Joe Cocker
-Billy Idol
-Joy Division/New Order
-Cyndi Lauper
-Maná
-Oasis
-OutKast
-Phish
-Soundgarden
-The White Stripes
-Bad Company
-The Black Crowes
-Mariah Carey
-Chubby Checker
-Joe Cocker
-Billy Idol
-Joy Division/New Order
-Cyndi Lauper
-Maná
-Oasis
-OutKast
-Phish
-Soundgarden
-The White Stripes
Either the Hall or I have a strange definition of "rock and roll."
Mariah Carey? Good God, she's not even an artist - just a killer voice in a hot bod.
She defines record company creation.
Hall either needs to whittle down the list to 2 or 3 noms every year or induct every 3-5 years or something - it's obvious they're running out of rock talent to recognize.
She defines record company creation.
Hall either needs to whittle down the list to 2 or 3 noms every year or induct every 3-5 years or something - it's obvious they're running out of rock talent to recognize.
Pretty solid choices. I’m surprised Joe Cocker and chubby checker are t already in.
I don't get why Phish would be inducted. Have they ever had a commercially successful/popular song? What percentage of people do you think could name a single Phish song? They're a jam band popular with hippies.
I don't get why Phish would be inducted. Have they ever had a commercially successful/popular song? What percentage of people do you think could name a single Phish song? They're a jam band popular with hippies.
Phish is probably top 30 all-time concert tickets sold. They are certainly worthy of inclusion in the HOF.
.New York Yankee Hall of Famer Derek Jeter dated Mariah Carey
from 1997 to 1998. She was married at the time.
from 1997 to 1998. She was married at the time.
I get that they sell a lot of concert tickets. They have a dedicated group of fans that will follow them around to watch them live. I'm sure it's a terrific show, and a great place to meet women who smell like patchouli oil.
I'm asking about their broader appeal within the music (rock & roll) world. Outside of those dedicated fans that love seeing them live, has anyone else ever heard of a song of theirs? I'm not a Mariah Carey fan, but I've at least heard of some of her songs. I'm fairly certain I've never heard a Phish song - and I don't think most people have.
I guess I'm not sure of the bar to get in. To me for a lot of these it's the Hall Of Pretty Good. But baseball has turned into that as well I guess.
Oasis is a joke
It’s ridiculous that Cyndi Lauper is not in while Mary J Blige is
Do the Black Crowes have the resume? Don’t think so
Bad Company-about time
Joy Division/New Order should be a no brainer
I’m for Billy Idol, but would get why some might not be
If Janet Jackson is in, hard to argue with Mariah. She has an insane amount of songs to hit number one
Wouldn’t argue against OutKast
Phish should probably be in at some point
Same with White Stripes. Just don’t think on first ballot
I would buy Chris Cornell as a better candidate than SoundGarden. Add in solo, Audioslave and Temple of Dog, no brainer
Still hope Smashing Pumpkins get nominated someday. Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie, Adore and Machina should be enough. Nothing post 2000 did it for me. Would obviously have better chance if Billy hadn’t rubbed so many people wrong over the years
It’s ridiculous that Cyndi Lauper is not in while Mary J Blige is
Do the Black Crowes have the resume? Don’t think so
Bad Company-about time
Joy Division/New Order should be a no brainer
I’m for Billy Idol, but would get why some might not be
If Janet Jackson is in, hard to argue with Mariah. She has an insane amount of songs to hit number one
Wouldn’t argue against OutKast
Phish should probably be in at some point
Same with White Stripes. Just don’t think on first ballot
I would buy Chris Cornell as a better candidate than SoundGarden. Add in solo, Audioslave and Temple of Dog, no brainer
Still hope Smashing Pumpkins get nominated someday. Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie, Adore and Machina should be enough. Nothing post 2000 did it for me. Would obviously have better chance if Billy hadn’t rubbed so many people wrong over the years
I thought she was cute.... Not nearly as the girl I married.
She had blond hair Jabba doesn't have any: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url...ved=0CBAQjRxqFwoTCLjX8bjBv4sDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE
The White Stripes revolutionized the way we experience live sporing events.
They are really good at what they do. Being commercially popular isn't a requirement to get into the Hall, although Phish does pretty well. To say they haven't had an impact on music culture in the United States would not be an accurate statement. Granted, Grateful Dead did it first, but they had a unique sound and last I checked they were still touring.I don't get why Phish would be inducted. Have they ever had a commercially successful/popular song? What percentage of people do you think could name a single Phish song? They're a jam band popular with hippies.
Just because it says "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" doesn't mean it is only for Rock and Roll. But that sounds better than "Music Hall of Fame".
Part of the problem is in their effort to include all genres of music they don't include all genres of music. Heavy metal being very notably underrepresented, although Ozzy Osbourne did finally get in this year. Part of the problem with being anti-establishment and f**k the power is they don't get enough people on the committees that decide these sorts of things.
One Halloween I karoaked Breakfast in America in a vampire costume and vampire voice.
And every time he said "take a look at my girlfriend" or something similar I would point at a different woman.
I was going to bitch that the Smiths, Siouxsie, Echo, and the Pointers were all left out, but rejecting Supertramp and 3DN are even greater travesties.
Rock and roll is not all about **** the power. That’s punk. R&R takes many forms…love songs, self exploration, celebration, story telling, existential struggle, jams with no deep message and yes sometimes anger. That said the Hall of Fame is definitely more an American Pop music thing than rock ‘n’ roll.
🎯 …… and I still say Kate Bush only got in because of Stranger Things.
Rock and Roll is too broad of category to swipe with any brush. I was talking about Heavy Metal and the really hard stuff.
Yes, but they decided a long time ago they were going to represent all forms of music for the Hall. They just never changed the name. Personally, I think it is better by including other types of music. It celebrates all of music, not just a single niche of it.
I don’t agree with the Mariah Carey nod. Just too far into the pop category, and she doesn’t rock.
Outcast rocks!
Phish rocks!
But still strange to see them in before so many other deserving musicians.
Outcast rocks!
Phish rocks!
But still strange to see them in before so many other deserving musicians.
Sporing events sounds like something that I assume happens at Burning Man.
