Marinelli

[JukeMove]

I'm new to board - so I'm well aware of the skepticism my post will generate and as an avid reader of several of the most active boards that skepticism is just......but I have a VERY reliable source that says Alex's ACL is torn and that he's gonna sit it out for as long as he can but def gonna try and give it a go later in the season.

Not gonna out source but will say he's a former well decorated hawk I do business with in Chicago area. I hope I'm wrong but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.

Anyone else heard similar news?

 

[Vallholl]

 

[Knight563]

I'm new to board - so I'm well aware of the skepticism my post will generate and as an avid reader of several of the most active boards that skepticism is just......but I have a VERY reliable source that says Alex's ACL is torn and that he's gonna sit it out for as long as he can but def gonna try and give it a go later in the season.

Not gonna out source but will say he's a former well decorated hawk I do business with in Chicago area. I hope I'm wrong but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.

Anyone else heard similar news?

Did your very reliable decorated Hawk source ask you to post highly classified rumored information too?

 

[MVPFAN]

If true I'm not optimistic that he will do much even if waiting a while. Dropping Young was not something they would do just for shits and grins.

 

[edohawk]

I'm new to board - so I'm well aware of the skepticism my post will generate and as an avid reader of several of the most active boards that skepticism is just......but I have a VERY reliable source that says Alex's ACL is torn and that he's gonna sit it out for as long as he can but def gonna try and give it a go later in the season.

Not gonna out source but will say he's a former well decorated hawk I do business with in Chicago area. I hope I'm wrong but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.

Anyone else heard similar news?

Marinelli was rolling around with Morningstar as of a couple of weeks ago, fwiw. This was well after he dinged his knee up.

 

[jmadden1998]

Luckily we redshirted him last year so he would be bigger and stronger after a year in the room. Seriously, this is exactly why you don’t automatically redshirt guys because you never know.

 

[9Hawks]

I’ve heard the same rumor, also from a reliable source. Not sure if there are different degrees of tears and if they think he may be able to wrestle through it or what. 165 is a pretty deep weight this year and as much as I like Alex I find it hard to imagine him much better than 5-6 range at NCAA. Wonder if a medical redshirt has been discussed.

 

[JukeMove]

Did your very reliable decorated Hawk source ask you to post highly classified rumored information too?

who said it was highly classified?

 

[ih8iast8]

Luckily we redshirted him last year so he would be bigger and stronger after a year in the room. Seriously, this is exactly why you don’t automatically redshirt guys because you never know.

Don't let anyone hear you say that here.

 

[Knight563]

who said it was highly classified?

Yep that’s right I forgot...Tom mentioned it during his press conference:/

 

[JohnBasedow]

I’ve heard the same rumor, also from a reliable source. Not sure if there are different degrees of tears and if they think he may be able to wrestle through it or what. 165 is a pretty deep weight this year and as much as I like Alex I find it hard to imagine him much better than 5-6 range at NCAA. Wonder if a medical redshirt has been discussed.

Given that he missed a good portion of last year and all of this year it could be possible.

 

[nearfall2]

I’ve heard the same rumor, also from a reliable source. Not sure if there are different degrees of tears and if they think he may be able to wrestle through it or what. 165 is a pretty deep weight this year and as much as I like Alex I find it hard to imagine him much better than 5-6 range at NCAA. Wonder if a medical redshirt has been discussed.

Without his red shirt he has to miss two post seasons to get one back.

 

[Czech Hawk]

Great news, if true. And by great I mean shitty. What a way to make your first few posts. As much as I like hearing news about our guys, I rather it not come at the expense of something that is being kept on the down low.

 

[JohnBasedow]

Without his red shirt he has to miss two post seasons to get one back.

Pretty sure the waiver would be available if medical records show he missed more than 30% of the season during any of two seasons that would normally count against his 5 year competition window.

Hopefully this a moot point and he doesn’t have a torn ACL.

 

[whejoe]

Next man up. @kalebyoung 165 is your spot now. Go out and dominate.

 

[IAChief32]

Marinelli is drilling and doing other stuff. I wouldn't know why if it is true.

 

[whejoe]

Marinelli is drilling and doing other stuff. I wouldn't know why if it is true.

I sure hope it's just a rumor. I'm praying that it's just a sprain and not a tear.

 

[Knight563]

Marinelli is drilling and doing other stuff. I wouldn't know why if it is true.

Chief we need you to go to practice this week......thanks man

 

[Hawk3+1]

Hope it's nothing! Just precautionary- as we all hope! But, if not, Run the Bull! Let's Go! Can't wait to see him! Don't get me wrong- don't if he's not healthy- hate these injurys!

 

[CP84]

Great news, if true. And by great I mean shitty. What a way to make your first few posts. As much as I like hearing news about our guys, I rather it not come at the expense of something that is being kept on the down low.

Oh God...

 

[rossel 33]

I'm new to board - so I'm well aware of the skepticism my post will generate and as an avid reader of several of the most active boards that skepticism is just......but I have a VERY reliable source that says Alex's ACL is torn and that he's gonna sit it out for as long as he can but def gonna try and give it a go later in the season.

Not gonna out source but will say he's a former well decorated hawk I do business with in Chicago area. I hope I'm wrong but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the case.

Anyone else heard similar news?

Interesting first post. Hope you are wrong.

 

[nearfall2]

Pretty sure the waiver would be available if medical records show he missed more than 30% of the season during any of two seasons that would normally count against his 5 year competition window.

Hopefully this a moot point and he doesn’t have a torn ACL.

You have to have competed less then 30% of the season and it has to have been in the first half of that season. If he is done now that is not an issue. He can qualify for a medical hardship, but that does not stop his 5 year clock. He then has to qualify for a sixth year waiver. To do that he has to have lost a significant portion of 2 seasons (does not have to be due to injury). That is where wrestling as a true freshmen is an advantage over a redshirt. That is why Stiebler was a 4 timer. He got the hardship and still had 4 years left on his clock to wrestle.

 

[SPOONER]

Pretty sure the waiver would be available if medical records show he missed more than 30% of the season during any of two seasons that would normally count against his 5 year competition window.

Hopefully this a moot point and he doesn’t have a torn ACL.

You’re applying the medical redshirt rule to a 6th year. Doesn’t work that way.

If he misses all season without competing he would have a shot at a 6th year if he wants one.

 

[bbwretler]

Chief we need you to go to practice this week......thanks man

Go to practice and what? Sometimes way too much information shows up here on a public forum. There are somethings that are fine to post...how someone looks, how they compare with others in the room, whether they may or may not be competeing. However, tom keeps some things under wraps and low key for a reason.

 

[Czech Hawk]

Oh God...

Can we just leave God out of it. What is this, a flipping hair salon, hear something, create an account, spew crap everywhere and since they are new, no real validation, maybe someone from PUS having F*# with us.

 

[chuck285]

You’re applying the medical redshirt rule to a 6th year. Doesn’t work that way.

If he misses all season without competing he would have a shot at a 6th year if he wants one.

Contact the Penn State wrestling club to find out how to get him to the Olympic wrestling club so this year won't count against his 5 year clock.

 

[Grip220]

Shit shit double shit that being said I hope his post is bullshit I really would like to see Bull in the midlands china shop.

 

[Notsure75]

Would he even be practicing if he had a torn ACL? Some posters who say they watch the practices, may I ask what your watching?

 

[Knight563]

Go to practice and what? Sometimes way too much information shows up here on a public forum. There are somethings that are fine to post...how someone looks, how they compare with others in the room, whether they may or maynot be competeing. However, tom keeps some things under wraps and low key for a reason.

Yep it was a joke....wow.

 

[bbwretler]

Yep it was a joke....wow.

Sorry, wasn’t directed so much at you as the rumor being posted to begin with. It's nice that we can visit practice but some things should remain there

 

[Knight563]

Sorry, wasn’t directed so much at you as the rumer being posted to begin with. It's nice that we can visit practice but some things should remain there

100% agree!

 

[el dub]

This is unfortunate.

And it sounds like he was at 110% after taking a red shirt frosh season. But we weren’t going to win it all last year so that really doesn't matter anyway.

 

[IAChief32]

Sorry, wasn’t directed so much at you as the rumer being posted to begin with. It's nice that we can visit practice but some things should remain there

This right here. I would love to pass on everything I hear and see but than that would betray Tom’s open door mindset as it pertains to practice.

Hawks/Brands get a lot of shit but IMO, he is perhaps the most fan/media friendly coach. Flo and other media outlets basically have carte blanche when it comes to access to our wrestlers and room. Look at how many flo profiles have been done on Iowa guys. Now look at PSU...I believe it’s just been one. On a post grad David Taylor.

 

[Czech Hawk]

This is unfortunate.

And it sounds like he was at 110% after taking a red shirt frosh season. But we weren’t going to win it all last year so that really doesn't matter anyway.

Hindsight can be a bitch, we can always look back and say, we could have done this or that different. I’m not sure what I think about holding them out or saving it for possible injury. I do know that nobody that matters will be asking me anytime soon.

 

[MSU158]

1.) What good comes from hiding an injury? I don't see any benefit to that at all. Is it like a tree falling in the woods? If no one hears it, did it really make a sound? Does hiding it change the kid's psyche? Maybe, but I only see that with a very select few. As big as the mental game is in this sport, I would be more on the side of transparency for injuries. Instead of worrying about hiding it, make it so obvious that it becomes just another part of the routine.

2.)If you didn't redshirt him last year, what good was going to come of it? Getting pinned by Valencia made it obvious to me that he was undersized at 165 and still a bit green. Him finishing R16 or R12 was going to do what for him?

3.)Stieber isn't a great example of using not redshirting to protect from injuries. He got injured his true freshman year. If he was redshirting that season, the same exact thing happens.

 

[Pennstate1985]

The reason you hide injuries is so your opponents don't focus on it.

 

[MSU158]

The reason you hide injuries is so your opponents don't focus on it.

Complete poppycock. That only works for minor injuries that effect your wrestling on a very limited basis. Still, If we have an idea there are injuries, EVERY opponent knows it. You don't think everyone realized McDonough had shoulder issues or Clark? If it is enough to effect your wrestling, guys are going to notice it.

 

[el dub]

1.) What good comes from hiding an injury? I don't see any benefit to that at all. Is it like a tree falling in the woods? If no one hears it, did it really make a sound? Does hiding it change the kid's psyche? Maybe, but I only see that with a very select few. As big as the mental game is in this sport, I would be more on the side of transparency for injuries. Instead of worrying about hiding it, make it so obvious that it becomes just another part of the routine.

2.)If you didn't redshirt him last year, what good was going to come of it? Getting pinned by Valencia made it obvious to me that he was undersized at 165 and still a bit green. Him finishing R16 or R12 was going to do what for him?

3.)Stieber isn't a great example of using not redshirting to protect from injuries. He got injured his true freshman year. If he was redshirting that season, the same exact thing happens.

He would have had a lot more experience going into the next year of competition. As it stands he might only get three seasons.

 

[bbwretler]

1.) What good comes from hiding an injury? I don't see any benefit to that at all. Is it like a tree falling in the woods? If no one hears it, did it really make a sound? Does hiding it change the kid's psyche? Maybe, but I only see that with a very select few. As big as the mental game is in this sport, I would be more on the side of transparency for injuries. Instead of worrying about hiding it, make it so obvious that it becomes just another part of the routine.

2.)If you didn't redshirt him last year, what good was going to come of it? Getting pinned by Valencia made it obvious to me that he was undersized at 165 and still a bit green. Him finishing R16 or R12 was going to do what for him?

3.)Stieber isn't a great example of using not redshirting to protect from injuries. He got injured his true freshman year. If he was redshirting that season, the same exact thing happens.

You have a right to have an opinion, however, your opinion carries absolutley no weight and doesn’t really matter here. How many schools have completely open practices? Plus you really have no idea if there is an injury or to what extent. Coach has every right to keep a possible injury low key based on his MORE INFORMED opinion.

 

[MilleGinja]

Would he even be practicing if he had a torn ACL? Some posters who say they watch the practices, may I ask what your watching?

Lee wrestled a post season with one, but if I recall correctly he was riding a stationary bike and didn't have much (if any) for live wrestling or drilling. Someone who is a little more medically inclined could probably explain the feasability of practicing with a partial tear. Seems like that would risk worse injury to the ligament though.