*****Mark Gronowski COMMITS to IOWA*****

[eyesofhawk]

Factually untrue. We can actually prove what players were recruited by which coach. Can't worm your way out of those indisputable facts.

It's no coincidence that the players recruited under Brian were starting the same time the offense got worse. An OLine can only do so much when the other team is literally quoted saying "we knew what they were going to do". This is due to Brian's one dimensional play calling. We had the same guys on the line as last year, but our line play improved. I wonder what the difference was? A real head scratcher.

You seem pretty miserable over the Gronowski commitment. Quite telling.

Not miserable at all. Quite happy to have Mark.

It's an indisputable fact that football has been proven to be won up-front for over 150 years. It's fundamental to the game.

The playcalling never kept the offense from being serviceable before it was broken due to the O-line. Every team has tendencies and knows what its opponent is going to run. And given the O-line and QB situation, Iowa rightfully had to pare down the playbook and did become more predictable in '22 and '23. I'm not sure there was any way around that. And had they not pared down the playbook, I don't believe they could have navigated their way to 8 and 10 wins.

The O-line was strong enough to get the job done this season. Refer to the "line play" thread or the two links from that thread in post #236 in this thread for more detail. The O-line was underdeveloped and simply was not physically strong enough in '22.

Not head scratching at all. KF knew at that time the lineman weren't going to get stronger over night. He told us its rebuild would be a slow, brick-by-brick process. Although I do think Lester helped the turnaround, he was not the reason for it. KF told us before Lester was even hired that the O-line would be much better this season because he knew they were fully developed. And Lester's help came from some scheme and detail in blocking angles rather than less predictability. Iowa ran the ball far more often this season than under BF

 

[IChawkeye45]

With Gronowski at quarterback this past fall, we are a college football playoff team at 10 and 2 at the worst. Next fall I think he’s worth at least two wins so maybe we are looking at a 7 wins team now. Huge get!

 

[nu2u]

But over the years KF has nailed recruiting high character guys.

That’s great, character is not unimportant. But the QBs were not awarded scholarships to open doors for little old ladies and shovel their neighbor’s sidewalk. Petras may eventually donate half his life earnings to Feed the Children but he couldn’t connect a deep pass if a starving child’s next meal depended on it.

 

[MeetTheFerentzes]

Everything under Brian was a miss, but that's water under the bridge.

Agree 100% on both accounts. My point was that when herkyhawk pointed out that 3 of our QB recruits were 4*'s, I felt like he was suggesting that their being "misses" was not so much under the coaching staff's control, which I wholeheartedly disagree with.

 

[jonesy5960]

Agree 100% on both accounts. My point was that when herkyhawk pointed out that 3 of our QB recruits were 4*'s, I felt like he was suggesting that their being "misses" was not so much under the coaching staff's control, which I wholeheartedly disagree with.

Well yeah. It all starts with the coaches. The players are only there because the coaches recruited and signed them. If the players don't develop into what they'd hoped, that's a reflection of poor evaluation and/or development. Anybody who believes otherwise hasn't ever run a successful organization.

 

[Franisdaman]

 

[desihawk]

Overall, my opinion is very under informed in any of the inside specifics of the situation.

From my under informed position, BF seemed to be a qualified candidate for the OC position, at the time of his promotion.

But I didn't necessarily think putting him at OC would be a good idea, because I knew fans would have an oversensitive reaction to the "nepotism". KF was already taking unwarranted heat for having a serviceable offense that many fans found to be too conservative. So to me, bringing on an additional sensitivity from fans seemed to be a volatile situation that I would have tried to have avoided.

I'm also under informed to know for sure if BF was retained too long. As mentioned, I could have seen the reasoning of getting BF out of the OC position at any point, just to avoid all the negative noise from the fan base.

But I can also see where KF could have retained him, based on having all the inside info that gave him a much better understanding of the overall situation, than that of the average negative fan. I'm sure KF understood the reasons that the offense went from serviceable under BF to broken under BF in '22, and remained that way for most of the '23 season, to have had very little to do with BF. And I'm sure KF understood those things were going to fix themselves, regardless of the OC.

It's awfully hard to make significant changes to a program when it's in the midst of a good deal of prolonged success. Especially if you have reason to believe that the person you're letting go really isn't the reason that the offense went from serviceable to broken in '22.

But I also don't take it as a given that KF would have retained BF had Beth not stepped in.

Again, from my under informed position, having BF as QB coach seemed to be a mistake. Although I understand KF's reasoning for having made that move at the time. From what I've heard, KOK was too often butting in and mucking up pre-snap communications. So moving BF to QB coach was an attempt to streamline and simplify pre-snap communication

purely as a gameday "oc" brian was likely good but as a leader (for instance ability to get find and get good results from assistants) he was bad. the dumbest/worst thing was for kf and bf to think he could assume qb coach responsibilities -- instantly finished whatever offense we had. wish he had stayed as a position coach te/ol he was good at those certainly better than what we have now.

 

[IChawkeye45]

Brian Ferentz coached quarterback’s have been the gift that keeps on giving the entire year as Cousin Eddie would say. Glad we are finally starting to get clear of that trainwreck. Well done Tim Lester!

 

[ItsAllBallBearingsNowadays]

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My memory of Stanley was he was overall a “good” Iowa qb but he failed in games of consequence and big moments. Defenders point to “But the woodshed game!”, well the season was pretty much over with Iowa already having 3 B10 losses by that point.

 

[eyesofhawk]

That’s great, character is not unimportant. But the QBs were not awarded scholarships to open doors for little old ladies and shovel their neighbor’s sidewalk. Petras may eventually donate half his life earnings to Feed the Children but he couldn’t connect a deep pass if a starving child’s next meal depended on it.

The point was, it might be fair to label Labas as a recruiting bust. But if so, it was a bust because of his character.

And there is no narrative to be made out of that, because KF has a history of nailing high character recruits. Sometimes a guy just doesn't pan out

 

[BHoppy]

And what evidence does anyone have that Labas character was in question?

 

[Bulldogs1974]

How does an offense go from 5 years of serviceability under BF to completely broken in '22?

It was the attrition to the O-line and the fact that the players forced to step in were nowhere near ready to play. BF had very little to do with any of that.

Football is won up-front. When you have a season where the worst O-line I've seen at Iowa in 40 years gets forced into action, you aren't going to get much from the offense, no matter who the OC is. Then consider that Iowa's offense had always been built around around its O-line, and you have an offense that's completely broken.

The O-line made incremental improvements in '23 that I'm sure would have been more substantial had Iowa not been forced to play an emergency QB, that happened to be the worst QB I've seen play significant snaps at Iowa in 40 years. That dynamic largely kept the offense broken.

The two most important things to an offense are its O-line and its QB. When you're forced to play the worst at both that I've seen in 40 years, I don't see why anyone would try to make the offensive struggles into anything else.

People want to talk about conservatism, lack of recruiting dynamic playmakers, etc. These factors may have compounded the difficulty experienced by the broken offense. But they were completely secondary in it all. The offense would have been broken regardless. And those factors existed before the offense broke and never kept it from being serviceable in those years.

BF may not have ran the dynamic offense that many wanted. Having him at QB coach probably would have surfaced some problems in the long run. But the offense going from serviceable to broken, had very little to do with him. And if an offense is serviceable, that's really all that matters. Fans are not what an offense is designed to serve

this could not be more wrong, you are under the impression that all oc's have to have a 1st year somewhere. It doesn't have to be at a major school. The only hope I had for him was his dad would give him free reign . Who kew BF was so inept. His play calling was next level (actually 2 levels), just 2 levels down.
Lack of any receiver use leads to atrophy at the position. No screens, draws or imagination (outside the USC game). He is damn lucky he had good OT's and akrum wadley. Akrum made up for a lot of play calling mistakes, people forget that.
Brian was worse than todd lickliter. Way worse

 

[Bulldogs1974]

Not miserable at all. Quite happy to have Mark.

It's an indisputable fact that football has been proven to be won up-front for over 150 years. It's fundamental to the game.

The playcalling never kept the offense from being serviceable before it was broken due to the O-line. Every team has tendencies and knows what its opponent is going to run. And given the O-line and QB situation, Iowa rightfully had to pare down the playbook and did become more predictable in '22 and '23. I'm not sure there was any way around that. And had they not pared down the playbook, I don't believe they could have navigated their way to 8 and 10 wins.

The O-line was strong enough to get the job done this season. Refer to the "line play" thread or the two links from that thread in post #236 in this thread for more detail. The O-line was underdeveloped and simply was not physically strong enough in '22.

Not head scratching at all. KF knew at that time the lineman weren't going to get stronger over night. He told us its rebuild would be a slow, brick-by-brick process. Although I do think Lester helped the turnaround, he was not the reason for it. KF told us before Lester was even hired that the O-line would be much better this season because he knew they were fully developed. And Lester's help came from some scheme and detail in blocking angles rather than less predictability. Iowa ran the ball far more often this season than under BF

The oline wasn't really broken... You just can't run the ball against 8-9 man boxes. You can absolutely call plays to help the oline out. The fact he was an offensive lineman and couldn't do this is astounding.
This does all relate to Kirks greatest weaknesses, the QB. He is petrified of losing his starting qb, he smothers the offense. We saw this in this season. Once you throttled (told he to not run/be hyper concervative) Sullivan because he had no back up, he lost his edge.
Kirks best years are where he had qbs pick up first downs with their feet. In today's football landscape you must have 3 qb's you are ready to play and must expect to play. They must be able to run because it is too easy to cover 10 guys with 11. When you call plays out of fear that advantage gets bigger.
Kirks other weakness is not using his conservative nature to his advantage. I new trick play every game/break tendencies.... He so rarely does this, which is why the usc game was a shock to everyone's system. That stuff can be done weekly, you don't need bowl prep to do it.
Hell take a look at what PSU's oc did... Be creative with the te. Use more offensive lineman. Use your biggest athlete on the team as your H back on short yardage/run plays. Just a complete travesty was BF did considering the time he got and money he made. He isn't dealing with 7th graders trying to learn an offense in 1 hour a day/5 days a week. He has adults with 30-40 hours a week. 20 is not the actual #.

 

[Zooropa_NCR]

this could not be more wrong, you are under the impression that all oc's have to have a 1st year somewhere. It doesn't have to be at a major school. The only hope I had for him was his dad would give him free reign . Who kew BF was so inept. His play calling was next level (actually 2 levels), just 2 levels down.
Lack of any receiver use leads to atrophy at the position. No screens, draws or imagination (outside the USC game). He is damn lucky he had good OT's and akrum wadley. Akrum made up for a lot of play calling mistakes, people forget that.
Brian was worse than todd lickliter. Way worse

Once KOK left Brian was really on his own. The offense went from bi polar to the worst in all of football quickly

 

[eyesofhawk]

this could not be more wrong, you are under the impression that all oc's have to have a 1st year somewhere. It doesn't have to be at a major school. The only hope I had for him was his dad would give him free reign . Who kew BF was so inept. His play calling was next level (actually 2 levels), just 2 levels down.
Lack of any receiver use leads to atrophy at the position. No screens, draws or imagination (outside the USC game). He is damn lucky he had good OT's and akrum wadley. Akrum made up for a lot of play calling mistakes, people forget that.
Brian was worse than todd lickliter. Way worse

What you say has its truth. Although I still contend WR to be the least important every down position in football. But that's another story.

But again, playcalling and lack of WR usage/ talent existed before the offense was ever broken, and they never kept it from being serviceable. If an offense is serviceable that's all that matters.

Sure, this stuff compounded the mess. But not the reason for the mess. The offense didn't break over night, after five years of serviceability due to factors that had been there the whole time. It broke because of a new factor. A broken O-line

 

[eyesofhawk]

this could not be more wrong, you are under the impression that all oc's have to have a 1st year somewhere. It doesn't have to be at a major school. The only hope I had for him was his dad would give him free reign . Who kew BF was so inept. His play calling was next level (actually 2 levels), just 2 levels down.
Lack of any receiver use leads to atrophy at the position. No screens, draws or imagination (outside the USC game). He is damn lucky he had good OT's and akrum wadley. Akrum made up for a lot of play calling mistakes, people forget that.
Brian was worse than todd lickliter. Way worse

Line play

I would love to have a physical line like Notre Dame

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[eyesofhawk]

The oline wasn't really broken... You just can't run the ball against 8-9 man boxes. You can absolutely call plays to help the oline out. The fact he was an offensive lineman and couldn't do this is astounding.
This does all relate to Kirks greatest weaknesses, the QB. He is petrified of losing his starting qb, he smothers the offense. We saw this in this season. Once you throttled (told he to not run/be hyper concervative) Sullivan because he had no back up, he lost his edge.
Kirks best years are where he had qbs pick up first downs with their feet. In today's football landscape you must have 3 qb's you are ready to play and must expect to play. They must be able to run because it is too easy to cover 10 guys with 11. When you call plays out of fear that advantage gets bigger.
Kirks other weakness is not using his conservative nature to his advantage. I new trick play every game/break tendencies.... He so rarely does this, which is why the usc game was a shock to everyone's system. That stuff can be done weekly, you don't need bowl prep to do it.
Hell take a look at what PSU's oc did... Be creative with the te. Use more offensive lineman. Use your biggest athlete on the team as your H back on short yardage/run plays. Just a complete travesty was BF did considering the time he got and money he made. He isn't dealing with 7th graders trying to learn an offense in 1 hour a day/5 days a week. He has adults with 30-40 hours a week. 20 is not the actual #.

AGAIN, all of this stuff existed for 18 years under KF, and 5 years under BF, and never kept the offense from being serviceable.

If you don't think the O-line was broken in '22, I have no idea what to tell you. The entire line was forced to play before they were ready. THEY WEREN'T STRONG ENOUGH YET. THEY NEEDED MORE WEIGHT AND MUSCLE. Could you honestly not see that the line couldn't push anybody off the ball in '22?

 

[eyesofhawk]

The oline wasn't really broken... You just can't run the ball against 8-9 man boxes. You can absolutely call plays to help the oline out. The fact he was an offensive lineman and couldn't do this is astounding.
This does all relate to Kirks greatest weaknesses, the QB. He is petrified of losing his starting qb, he smothers the offense. We saw this in this season. Once you throttled (told he to not run/be hyper concervative) Sullivan because he had no back up, he lost his edge.
Kirks best years are where he had qbs pick up first downs with their feet. In today's football landscape you must have 3 qb's you are ready to play and must expect to play. They must be able to run because it is too easy to cover 10 guys with 11. When you call plays out of fear that advantage gets bigger.
Kirks other weakness is not using his conservative nature to his advantage. I new trick play every game/break tendencies.... He so rarely does this, which is why the usc game was a shock to everyone's system. That stuff can be done weekly, you don't need bowl prep to do it.
Hell take a look at what PSU's oc did... Be creative with the te. Use more offensive lineman. Use your biggest athlete on the team as your H back on short yardage/run plays. Just a complete travesty was BF did considering the time he got and money he made. He isn't dealing with 7th graders trying to learn an offense in 1 hour a day/5 days a week. He has adults with 30-40 hours a week. 20 is not the actual #.

Line play

I would love to have a physical line like Notre Dame

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Line play

I would love to have a physical line like Notre Dame

iowa.forums.rivals.com

 

[2D_]

the reason the oline couldn't block anyone was because they stacked the box against us because they knew what we were going to do before we did it. because brian was a very bad OC and recruiter. anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or has an agenda.

 

[nu2u]

AGAIN, all of this stuff existed for 18 years under KF, and 5 years under BF, and never kept the offense from being serviceable.

This should absolutely be inscribed somewhere at Kinnick Stadium after KF retires:

“An honorable family man, a great leader of young men, a serviceable offense.”
— Kirk Ferentz, Head Coach 1999-2005.

 

[eyesofhawk]

the reason the oline couldn't block anyone was because they stacked the box against us because they knew what we were going to do before we did it. because brian was a very bad OC and recruiter. anyone who says otherwise is either stupid or has an agenda.

Teams didn't stack the box the previous two decades? Haven't seen the full season stat, but at one point this season K2 had a higher average vs a stacked box than not. What's that extra defender do when his D-lineman gets knocked back into his lap? Stacked boxes are vastly overrated. Watch teams pick up yards against stacked boxes all weekend long.

AGAIN, BF's playcalling existed for 5 years of serviceable offense before it was ever broken.

Yes, predictability increased in '22 because he had an O-line that couldn't push anyone off the ball well enough to be able to execute ANY play. So the staff correctly decided to try to conquer one brick at a time and focused on a few simple plays.

Yes, predictability remained high for most of '23. Iowa was using an emergency QB. What do they do in the NFL, with the best skill players, best play callers, teachers, and game planners when a backup QB is on the field? They pare down the offense and try to limit big mistakes. Welcome to football.

I have a hard time believing Iowa could have navigated a broken offense to 8 and 10 wins had they not pared down the offense in those two seasons.

Get the hatred out of your heart

 

[Hawkeyesgonewild]

The polish hammer love it

 

[diggetydug]

And what evidence does anyone have that Labas character was in question?

some idiots equate cannabis use with poor character

 

[eyesofhawk]

some idiots equate cannabis use with poor character

To me, if the rumors were accurate, the troubling thing was his tardiness to meetings.

You just can't have a guy like that leading your team. It has the potentiality to destroy a team and actually dent a program

 

[diggetydug]

To me, if the rumors were accurate, the troubling thing was his tardiness to meetings.

You just can't have a guy like that leading your team. It has the potentiality to destroy a team and actually dent a program

certainly don’t disagree but I also don’t think that is the only reason people slander him

 

[Bulldogs1974]

AGAIN, all of this stuff existed for 18 years under KF, and 5 years under BF, and never kept the offense from being serviceable.

If you don't think the O-line was broken in '22, I have no idea what to tell you. The entire line was forced to play before they were ready. THEY WEREN'T STRONG ENOUGH YET. THEY NEEDED MORE WEIGHT AND MUSCLE. Could you honestly not see that the line couldn't push anybody off the ball in '22?

no it didn't watch a decade or more ago, the defenses don't do what they do now. the backside edge comes way faster/harder now, especially with an immobile qb, everything gets compressed, and without cuts there are no cutback lanes. what happened in the games this year when the qb was no longer a threat to run. The person most excited about sullivan starting was KJ.

The 22 line struggled because you get the sh!t beat out of you when everyone brings the house. Were some young/out of position, yes, but that happens to most teams. Try looking at other rosters, they have plenty of young guys starting on the line, it's not an excuse.
Did you ever see a deep fade route (you can do that with a bad line on a three step drop), how many screens or draws? The line play was much better on counters and iso blocking than zone in 22', why keep hammering the zone.

 

[BHoppy]

To me, if the rumors were accurate, the troubling thing was his tardiness to meetings.

You just can't have a guy like that leading your team. It has the potentiality to destroy a team and actually dent a program

Rumors, that is a good reason. Not saying I disagree with meetings tardiness, but there is a lot more to someone's character. Does not show a good sign as a leader, maybe. But others on the team have reason of not being good leaders but does not mean poor character.

Just gets old posters attacking players on rumors.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

i'm not ready to call lester the savior yet either. The run game was better this year, the scoring was better, but passing was not.
Why no swing passes to the rb or slot receiver. KJ won a game with a simple pass. a good oc has a bag of screens to different player along with plays with 2 screen options. Those are not plays that take elite level skill/talent to run.

 

[jonesy5960]

i'm not ready to call lester the savior yet either. The run game was better this year, the scoring was better, but passing was not.
Why no swing passes to the rb or slot receiver. KJ won a game with a simple pass. a good oc has a bag of screens to different player along with plays with 2 screen options. Those are not plays that take elite level skill/talent to run.

"Why no swing passes to the rb or slot receiver. KJ won a game with a simple pass. "

Seems like you're contradicting yourself in the same breath. Also, KJ was 3rd on the team in receiving so it's not like they didn't throw to him.

 

[eyesofhawk]

no it didn't watch a decade or more ago, the defenses don't do what they do now. the backside edge comes way faster/harder now, especially with an immobile qb, everything gets compressed, and without cuts there are no cutback lanes. what happened in the games this year when the qb was no longer a threat to run. The person most excited about sullivan starting was KJ.

The 22 line struggled because you get the sh!t beat out of you when everyone brings the house. Were some young/out of position, yes, but that happens to most teams. Try looking at other rosters, they have plenty of young guys starting on the line, it's not an excuse.
Did you ever see a deep fade route (you can do that with a bad line on a three step drop), how many screens or draws? The line play was much better on counters and iso blocking than zone in 22', why keep hammering the zone.

Line play

I would love to have a physical line like Notre Dame

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Line play

I would love to have a physical line like Notre Dame

iowa.forums.rivals.com

So teams weren't bringing the house until '22? The game didn't change overnight in the off-season between '21 and '22.

The attached links cover what you have omitted in your characterization of the young line in '22

 

[jonesy5960]

Teams didn't stack the box the previous two decades? Haven't seen the full season stat, but at one point this season K2 had a higher average vs a stacked box than not. What's that extra defender do when his D-lineman gets knocked back into his lap? Stacked boxes are vastly overrated. Watch teams pick up yards against stacked boxes all weekend long.

AGAIN, BF's playcalling existed for 5 years of serviceable offense before it was ever broken.

Yes, predictability increased in '22 because he had an O-line that couldn't push anyone off the ball well enough to be able to execute ANY play. So the staff correctly decided to try to conquer one brick at a time and focused on a few simple plays.

Yes, predictability remained high for most of '23. Iowa was using an emergency QB. What do they do in the NFL, with the best skill players, best play callers, teachers, and game planners when a backup QB is on the field? They pare down the offense and try to limit big mistakes. Welcome to football.

I have a hard time believing Iowa could have navigated a broken offense to 8 and 10 wins had they not pared down the offense in those two seasons.

Get the hatred out of your heart

C'mon man. Brian sucked. Get the cobwebs out of your brain.

Offensive efficiency under Brian got worse every year he was there until the O'Keefe training wheels were gone and it completely cratered. The only thing worse than Brian running an offense was Brian working alongside Kirk in running an offense. Neither one had any idea how to reverse the trajectory and no amount of flailing around was going to fix things. Either Brian had to go or Kirk and Brian had to go. I know a lot of people wished it were Kirk. I'm fine with seeing how Lester does before Kirk rides off into the sunset.

Year Offensive Efficiency
Ranking
2017 30
2018. 44
2019. 53
2020. 57
2021. 88
2022. 92
2023. 121
Edit 2024. 50

 

[Iron Doc]

i'm not ready to call lester the savior yet either. The run game was better this year, the scoring was better, but passing was not.
Why no swing passes to the rb or slot receiver. KJ won a game with a simple pass. a good oc has a bag of screens to different player along with plays with 2 screen options. Those are not plays that take elite level skill/talent to run.

Lester MAY VERY WELL BE still under Capt Fossil's thumb.

 

[Bulldogs1974]

"Why no swing passes to the rb or slot receiver. KJ won a game with a simple pass. "

Seems like you're contradicting yourself in the same breath. Also, KJ was 3rd on the team in receiving so it's not like they didn't throw to him.

3rd on the team doesn't necessarily mean they used the rb and slot like most college teams. the tallest man in the land of midgets isn't necessarily tall..

 

[jonesy5960]

Lester MAY VERY WELL BE still under Capt Fossil's thumb.

I don't think this is true.

 

[Birky]

Lester MAY VERY WELL BE still under Capt Fossil's thumb.

What would make you think this?

 

[eyesofhawk]

C'mon man. Brian sucked. Get the cobwebs out of your brain.

Offensive efficiency under Brian got worse every year he was there until the O'Keefe training wheels were gone and it completely cratered. The only thing worse than Brian running an offense was Brian working alongside Kirk in running an offense. Neither one had any idea how to reverse the trajectory and no amount of flailing around was going to fix things. Either Brian had to go or Kirk and Brian had to go. I know a lot of people wished it were Kirk. I'm fine with seeing how Lester does before Kirk rides off into the sunset.

Year Offensive Efficiency
Ranking
2017 30
2018. 44
2019. 53
2020. 57
2021. 88
2022. 92
2023. 121

I didn't think BF had a great feel as a playcaller, myself.

My point is his offense was serviceable until the O-line broke, which he had very little to do with.

Everything has been mischaracterized for years because fans didn't like how conservative the offense was, were sensitive to nepotism, didn't know the game well enough to understand what really happened, or all of the above. What everything has gotten turned into has been completely unwarranted and wrong behavior from fans. Completely unaware, unfair, and careless/wreckless if not destructive.

Bring in someone who understands football, but theoretically has never heard of Iowa football, to analyze the situation. His investigation would bring him to a history of a serviceable offense for 20+ years. The data would the show the offense to suddenly drop to worst in the country. He has learned Iowa to have had 20+ years of winning. And rightfully assumes something drastic to have happened to the program. He then learns of the attrition to the O-lineman that were supposed to have played in '22. He then learns of the confluence of factors that stunted the physical development of replacement O-lineman, that would have already been getting forced into action before they were physically ready. The analyzer would close his investigation, as he had his answer as why the offense broke in '22. And he understands that any further findings would be secondary

 

[Iron Doc]

What would make you think this?

Offense is still archaic compared to modern Spread-type offenses.
Nonexistent passing attack (see above comment).
Having an AA RB helped this year's production. But he has evolved to the next level.
NOT down on Lester, I think he is trying within his constraints.
Being a fossil myself, I can tell fossilization (Capt Fossil) when i see it.

 

[DewHawk]

Offense is still archaic compared to modern Spread-type offenses.
Nonexistent passing attack (see above comment).
Having an AA RB helped this year's production. But he has evolved to the next level.
NOT down on Lester, I think he is trying within his constraints.
Being a fossil myself, I can tell fossilization (Capt Fossil) when i see it.

When Iowa football no longer plays keep away with a second half lead then folks might believe Lester (not Ferentz) is calling the shots. JMO

 

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