Hasn't even thrown a pass for us and he is Joe Montana and Peyton Manning all in one.
Mark Gronowski turned down Miami for Iowa
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There were teams with just as or more broken lines that had better numbers.
I am not feeling that...... think a BIG part of the excitement is we have an OC that needed an upgrade to run his offense. He has that upgrade so let's see where it goes. I feel pretty optimistic that the offense will look much better than the lat 3 years and that alone is fairly exciting.
So fate has written the story line. Hawks to face Miami in the playoffs this year.
I will be happy to see a dude who can routinely complete 10 yard passes.
Sometimes you have to take the black and gold blinders off. Miami was on cusp of playoff berth before their defense let them down. Highly explosive offense that would be attractive to any QB with a great coach in Cristobal. Who just took a transfer and made him the #1 pick in NFL draft and a school that can offer a ton of $ (see Carson beck’s NIL).
So was Iowa clearly the best, no. Was Iowa a better fit with everything for Mark it sounds like it and I’m definitely happy about it. Miami and culture down there isn’t for everyone and same goes for Midwest schools but being an IL native to MG it was appealing and thankfully so. and some guys it doesn’t always come down to highest offer and sounds like for MG that was the case too.
Yeah that's a very poor characterization.
I've proven it to be as much many times, but here you are with it again
Who?
I've never seen a line other than that, that didn't have one player that was yet physically ready to play.
The line was not functional. That means the offense won't be functional, regardless of OC
Money aside.
One decent year at Miami does not make them a strong program.
Ward would have been a high draft pick had he stayed at WSU
That doofus eyesofhawk is still at it?
How does any regular not have him on ignore?
How does any regular not have him on ignore?
According to him, you may have him on ignore on you may not, but one still has to find the answer within.
I haven't noticed that vibe in this thread at all.
The vibe I've noticed is: Mark chose Iowa over Miami. Thank you Tim. Hopefully Gronk will be good here.
And of course, some dealing with eyesofhawk's asinine comments.
Disagree, but to play along they weren't ready. It still needed to happen.
@eyesofhawk https://cfbstats.com/2023/leader/national/team/offense/split01/category10/sort01.html
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You disagree with what?
What needed to happen? Brian leaving? I'm glad to have Lester. Everything points to him being a better OC than BF. But the only reason BF needed to leave was to lessen what had become a ridiculous and unhealthy level of negativity in the Hawkeye community. KF had his winningest stretch at Iowa with BF at OC.
Is your linked stat supposed to mean something? Here's a stat for you from '23. 10 wins and a division title. I feel sorry for you that you find the linked stat important.
You also don't seem to understand that the linked stat had very little to do with BF
You would trade 25 years of consistent success for a defining win? I don't understand your point.
I don't know how a "defining win" is defined. But I know Kirk has won a lot of "big" games.
More importantly, he's had a hell of a lot of good seasons
He has one year to play. Miami like it or not is a big name program and attracts top talent. They had a better year than Iowa last year and a strong roster for this season. Their current coach Cristobal is a good coach and His offense last year one of the best in the nation which is attractive to QBs. Reason the #1 nfl pick went to play for and draft stock rose to that point.
He posts gems, is why we don't ignore.
None of that makes Miami a stronger football program than Iowa. Simply, they are not.
Like it or not, Mark seemed to think Iowa was an obvious enough choice to have canceled his visit to Miami. Didn't even give them the time of day
I support the team and staff, but the numbers speak for themselves. OC is in charge of the O.
BF was also in charge of the O before he had no O-line.
The broken O-line had almost nothing to do with BF. It was basically a confluence of bad luck that has been detailed on this forum many times.
I'm not sure why, but people don't seem to understand that if an O-line has even one below average player it can't be a good unit. It will function like an engine with one piston not firing.
If you have an engine with zero pistons firing, you have a non-functional engine.
If you have a non-functional engine, you have a non-functional vehicle. You can give it the highest grade gas and oil. You can give it fancy tires and rims. A fancy paint job. Fancy lighting. Personalized license plate. Top of the line stereo. The thing ain't gonna run
So that makes Iowa a better football program than Miami? Is this a joke?
Because f*** Nebraska, that's why.
No. But it seems your reading comprehension may be a joke.
Do you truly believe Miami is a better football program than Iowa? If so, that's a hilarious joke.
If you honestly believe that, please explain to me how in the hell you arrived at that conclusion
Iowa hasn’t been relevant from a national perspective in over two decades. I’m sorry. That’s the truth. Even 2015 was a confluence of luck, schedule, and timing.
Hmmmm. We in the Big Ten. Anyone in the Big Ten is relevant.
Look at some of the schools in the link I posted that had more O than Iowa. You are saying their Oline was overall in better shape than Iowa's?
Physically and technically?
Mostly physically, but for the most part, yes.
If a couple may have been worse, they were able to get away with it by playing lesser competition.
Did Iowa have one O-lineman physically ready to play in the big ten in '22? No.
What are we talking about here? What happened couldn't be any more obvious or simply explained
I'm not sure what your definition of national relevance is, but it doesn't seem to include anything accomplished during the Fry era either.
And tell me any time recently when Miami's program was nationally relevant
I see the vehicle analogy flew over your head.
Not only that, but Iowa had no choice but to pare it down in '22 and '23.
The staff decided to rebuild it brick-by-brick. And is reaping the benefits of that to this day.
Not only that, but they navigated the circumstances to an average of 9 wins from '22 to '23. Other than playing Cade while he was hurt at the start of the '23 season, I'm not sure the staff, including Brian, could have possibly handled the circumstances better
But not in '15?
Somebody must have thought they were relevant while ranked #2 in '21.
I don't care what your definition of "national relevance" is.
Has there been a more recent time when Miami's program was nationally relevant?
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