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McCaffery to Penn?

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This has been mentioned in a couple of places, but I thought it deserved its own thread. Trilly Donovan apparently mentioned a possible connection, and then there's this article: https://ivyhoopsonline.com/2025/03/...enn-mens-basketball-to-replace-steve-donahue/

From the article:
Legend has it that Penn had a deal in place to hire McCaffery as Fran Dunphy’s replacement in 2006 when the former Fran was at Siena, but university president Amy Gutmann vetoed the deal over McCaffery’s salary. How different would things have been if McCaffery — and not Glen Miller — succeeded Fran Dunphy?

Nothing is official yet, but it sure looks like Iowa is going to fire McCaffery after 15 seasons and seven NCAA Tournament appearances. The Hawkeyes reportedly will owe McCaffery over $4 million if they fire him, which should help offset the significant coaching salary gap between the Ivy League and the Big Ten.

At first glance, it seems like an easy marriage to sell. Penn gets to bring home an alum with high-major coaching experience. McCaffery gets a homecoming to end his career. But it’s not that easy. McCaffery is 65 years old and far from a long-term solution. He also would have to contend with an entirely different type of recruiting in the scholarship-free Ivy League.
 
Seems like more speculation than any actual smoke, but sure. Not counting on Fran walking away from a buyout to take what I assume would be a much lower paying gig.
 
Is he in their Hall of Fame after career 2.1 ppg as player? It would be an honorable thing to do for Fran to walk away and get a job at a Mid Major. Then he an bring in Jack and Jack would thrive at that level.

I agree Stamp "Approved" and PENN doesn't even have to pay us to steal him.
 
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Seems like more speculation than any actual smoke, but sure. Not counting on Fran walking away from a buyout to take what I assume would be a much lower paying gig.

agreed, highly speculative

I think Fran realizes he is going to end up at a Mid Major if he wants to coach longer . The fact that Jack was planning to RS tells me Fran was planning to stay at Iowa at least one more year. However, good situations for an old man are hard to find. This sounds ideal. Beth and Fran's agent just need to work out a deal. He doesn't deserve full buyout if he plans to coach elsewhere between now and 2027-2028. Penn can get a head coach for essentially "free." with proper contract construction.
 
agreed, highly speculative

I think Fran realizes he is going to end up at a Mid Major if he wants to coach longer . The fact that Jack was planning to RS tells me Fran was planning to stay at Iowa at least one more year. However, good situations for an old man are hard to find. This sounds ideal. Beth and Fran's agent just need to work out a deal. He doesn't deserve full buyout if he plans to coach elsewhere between now and 2027-2028. Penn can get a head coach for essentially "free." with proper contract construction.
I'm not too familiar with contracts and law.. So maybe this is a dumb question, but why would Fran and his agent necessarily need, or want, to negotiate anything? If a certain buyout is written into the contract, I wouldn't think that "deserve" is irrelevant. But again, I'm not real familiar with how these things tend to work, or how this would benefit Penn if they hire Fran. Not being a wise guy, just asking.
 
I'm not too familiar with contracts and law.. So maybe this is a dumb question, but why would Fran and his agent necessarily need, or want, to negotiate anything? If a certain buyout is written into the contract, I wouldn't think that "deserve" is irrelevant. But again, I'm not real familiar with how these things tend to work, or how this would benefit Penn if they hire Fran. Not being a wise guy, just asking.
If Fran doesn't care about being fired, you're right, there is no negotiation. Beth would be required to pay the full buyout. But if Fran would rather "retire" or "step down", then Beth could say she'd do it that way, but part of the buyout is kept, so instead of $4M, he'd get maybe $3M. Obviously coaches have egos and alot of them don't ever want to be "fired", so they're willing to forego some of the buyout to be allowed to step down instead.
 
If Fran doesn't care about being fired, you're right, there is no negotiation. Beth would be required to pay the full buyout. But if Fran would rather "retire" or "step down", then Beth could say she'd do it that way, but part of the buyout is kept, so instead of $4M, he'd get maybe $3M. Obviously coaches have egos and alot of them don't ever want to be "fired", so they're willing to forego some of the buyout to be allowed to step down instead.
That makes sense. Thanks.
 
Seems like more speculation than any actual smoke, but sure. Not counting on Fran walking away from a buyout to take what I assume would be a much lower paying gig.

The original post didn't mention any buyout. It assumes Fran will be fired and paid what he is owed.
 
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Lol at people who think Fran McCaffrey can somehow just go get hired at any mid major because he's so in demand.

Why in the absolute sh*t would any program hire a 65 year old coach who has never won a damn thing?

Why?
This is the real question. Almost as absurd as why a BIG10 school would keep a coach for 15 years that has never won anything.
 
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Fran needs to move on. How or why is irrelevant other than what it costs the university.

As for him somehow agreeing to something lesser than what his contract says, that seems like a bit of wishful thinking. Why wouldn't he go for the max amount that the prior incompetent AD set him up for with his current contract? Fran has virtually zero chance of getting a power conference job at his age and with his resume. A lesser job, penn or otherwise, isn't likely to care much if he got the max out of his deal with Iowa as they wouldn't be stupid enough to hire a 66 year old for more than a short term deal anyway. If penn wants him and he wants that job, great. That may help a bit in getting him to move on. Will that save the university money? I'm not holding my breath.
 
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Lol at people who think Fran McCaffrey can somehow just go get hired at any mid major because he's so in demand.

Why in the absolute sh*t would any program hire a 65 year old coach who has never won a damn thing?

Why?
Kindness?
 
Seems like more speculation than any actual smoke, but sure. Not counting on Fran walking away from a buyout to take what I assume would be a much lower paying gig.
He wouldn’t walk away from it, the buyout likely has a clause that lowers the buyout by however much he makes at a new gig.

Makes sense on a lot of levels if Fran does want to keep coaching.
 
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Lol at people who think Fran McCaffrey can somehow just go get hired at any mid major because he's so in demand.

Why in the absolute sh*t would any program hire a 65 year old coach who has never won a damn thing?

Why?
LaSalle hired 73 year old legend Fran Dunphy who just announced retirement. One of those Big 5 schools would be a good fit for Fran
 
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I think McCaffery and Beth will have a conversation about expectations after this season and I suspect their lists would be similar. For that reason, I don't believe our coach is going anywhere after this season.
 
I think McCaffery and Beth will have a conversation about expectations after this season and I suspect their lists would be similar. For that reason, I don't believe our coach is going anywhere after this season.
That should have happened last year. Anyway you slice it, Iowa has a lame duck piloting the ship (through either age or performance) with a very rare, top shelf option as a realistic possibility. The time to move forward is now.
 
This has been mentioned in a couple of places, but I thought it deserved its own thread. Trilly Donovan apparently mentioned a possible connection, and then there's this article: https://ivyhoopsonline.com/2025/03/...enn-mens-basketball-to-replace-steve-donahue/

From the article:
Saying no scholarship for ivy is probably factually correct, but they have work arounds. They have a lot of money for college athletes via financial aid. They use that to get around scholarship limits in non rev sports so I'm sure it's no different for bball.
 
I think McCaffery and Beth will have a conversation about expectations after this season and I suspect their lists would be similar. For that reason, I don't believe our coach is going anywhere after this season.
What part of “we had the lowest attendance in Hawkeye men’s basketball in the last 60 years” do you not understand. There is no way Beth trots Fran back out there given that.
 
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