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Menendez to Be Sentenced on Federal Corruption Charges

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Robert Menendez, the once-powerful U.S. senator from New Jersey who was convicted last year of participating in a brazen scheme to trade political clout for bribes, could spend much of the rest of his life in prison after he is sentenced on Wednesday in Manhattan.
Federal prosecutors, who have described Mr. Menendez’s conduct as possibly “the most serious for which a U.S. senator has been convicted in the history of the republic,” have asked Judge Sidney H. Stein of Federal District Court to impose a sentence of at least 15 years in prison.
Lawyers for Mr. Menendez, 71, citing his hardscrabble upbringing, life of service and devotion to his family, are seeking a much shorter term, of no more than 27 months, with “at least two years’ rigorous community service.”
The lawyers, Avi Weitzman and Adam Fee, also asked the judge to consider whether sparing him prison and instead sentencing him to home detention with the community service provision would best serve “the ends of justice in this case.”
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Mr. Menendez has maintained his innocence and plans to appeal the verdict. A jury found him guilty on all 16 counts he faced, including bribery, extortion, honest services wire fraud, obstruction of justice, conspiracy and acting as an agent for Egypt.
He is the first U.S. senator to be convicted of acting as an agent of a foreign power and the seventh senator convicted of a federal crime while in office. He resigned in August.
The sentencing, scheduled for 2 p.m., comes 16 months after prosecutors unsealed charges accusing Mr. Menendez, then the Democratic chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, of taking hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes, including cash, bars of gold bullion and a Mercedes-Benz, in exchange for his willingness to wield his power abroad and at home.
Testimony and evidence presented at trial portrayed Mr. Menendez and his wife, Nadine Menendez, of conspiring during furtive dinners and on encrypted calls in a scheme that was largely aimed at increasing U.S. assistance to Egypt and helping three New Jersey businessmen, who were also charged in the case.
“The defendants’ crimes amount to an extraordinary attempt, at the highest levels of the legislative branch, to corrupt the nation’s core sovereign powers over foreign relations and law enforcement,” the government wrote to Judge Stein.



This week, the former senator’s lawyers, saying the case presented difficult appellate questions, asked Judge Stein to allow Mr. Menendez to remain free on bond pending his appeal.
Two of Mr. Menendez’s co-defendants — the businessmen Wael Hana and Fred Daibes — are also to be sentenced on Wednesday. A fourth defendant, Jose Uribe, pleaded guilty last year and became a star witness against the senator at trial. He is to be sentenced in April.
Ms. Menendez, 57, was to be tried with her husband, but her trial was postponed by the judge after her lawyers said she would be undergoing treatment for breast cancer. Ms. Menendez, who has pleaded not guilty, is now scheduled for trial on March 18.
 
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Even in your utterly delusional world there are no points to be scored here. Democrats kept him in the Senate until they had no choice but to force him out. There are plenty of Trump issues to complain about. You’d be wise to put the Menendez in the lock box and focus on Donny.
We tried focusing on Donny. We even put felon on his record. But republicans voted for him anyway.
 
Even in your utterly delusional world there are no points to be scored here. Democrats kept him in the Senate until they had no choice but to force him out. There are plenty of Trump issues to complain about. You’d be wise to put the Menendez in the lock box and focus on Donny.
Projection about yourself. Always
 
Stop saying the DOJ has been weaponized against republicans and well stop proving you wrong then.
I’m not making that claim. I’m simply pointing out that there is no political hay to be made here. Dems shit the bed in every possible way in this case.
 
Still not as bad as the guy currently sitting in the Oval Office.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, that’s why I suggested sticking to Trump issues. There is nothing to be proud of with the way Dems handled Menendez.
 
This might not be the best topic for you to try spiking the football. Democrats handled this about as selfishly as they possibly could. You should probably stick to Trump issues.
How si? They allowed him due process and told him he needed to go to trial… and then they had the audacity to removed him from the Senate upon conviction. They did far more than in ridding the Senate if a criminal than Republicans have done.

Dems have shown an ability to police their own in Congress. Far better and more consistently than Repubbers.
 
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How si? They allowed him due process and told him he needed to go to trial… and then they had the audacity to removed him from the Senate upon conviction. They did far more than in ridding the Senate if a criminal than Republicans have done.

Dems have shown an ability to police their own in Congress. Far better and more consistently than Repubbers.
He should have been gone shortly after the federal indictment, just like Santos. Dems do the right thing when it’s politically expedient to do the right thing.

They needed Menendez, so they kept him in the Senate until they had no choice but to force him out. All the while hiding beneath the cloak of “due process” despite demanding that Republicans remove Santos before his case even went to trial.

Speaking of Santos, can somebody - anybody - explain to me why he “doesn’t count”?
 
He should have been gone shortly after the federal indictment, just like Santos. Dems do the right thing when it’s politically expedient to do the right thing.

They needed Menendez, so they kept him in the Senate until they had no choice but to force him out. All the while hiding beneath the cloak of “due process” despite demanding that Republicans remove Santos before his case even went to trial.

Speaking of Santos, can somebody - anybody - explain to me why he “doesn’t count”?
Santos was about far more than his criminal acts and you know that. Republicans still kept him as long as they could.

Republicans have complained for 4 years about the weaponization of the DOJ against republicans, despite many examples provided to the contrary.
 
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Santos was about far more than his criminal acts and you know that. Republicans still kept him as long as they could.
Are you straight up lying here or have you somehow convinced yourself that’s true? Keeping him “as long as they could” would have meant keeping him until after he was convicted. You know, like the Dems did with Menendez.

Instead, Santos was forced out shortly after he was indicted and the House Ethics Committee completed their investigation. More than 8 months before he decided to plead guilty.

Republicans have complained for 4 years about the weaponization of the DOJ against republicans, despite many examples provided to the contrary.
Again, I’m not making that claim. Pretty much every politician who has been prosecuted by the DOJ deserved it.
 
Are you straight up lying here or have you somehow convinced yourself that’s true? Keeping him “as long as they could” would have meant keeping him until after he was convicted. You know, like the Dems did with Menendez.

Instead, Santos was forced out shortly after he was indicted and the House Ethics Committee completed their investigation. More than 8 months before he decided to plead guilty.

Again, I’m not making that claim. Pretty much every politician who has been prosecuted by the DOJ deserved it.
The stuff with Santos kept piling up with revelation after revelation, had it been the criminal count only I’ve no doubt they’d have waited until he was convicted. As for menedez..yeah I wish they’d booted him sooner, but there’s always stubborn holdouts - we’ve seen that for years from both parties when this has happened. Votes to expel a member from congress are historically rare so it’s unfortunately not unique how they handled that.

That republicans ultimately moved before his criminal case was resolved should say everything about how bad the ethics report was frankly.

If you’ve never made that claim, my apologies for saying so - lord knows bins, and northern, etc have done so countless times and I have to admit sometimes the posts all blend together.
 
The stuff with Santos kept piling up with revelation after revelation, had it been the criminal count only I’ve no doubt they’d have waited until he was convicted. As for menedez..yeah I wish they’d booted him sooner, but there’s always stubborn holdouts - we’ve seen that for years from both parties when this has happened. Votes to expel a member from congress are historically rare so it’s unfortunately not unique how they handled that.

That republicans ultimately moved before his criminal case was resolved should say everything about how bad the ethics report was frankly.

If you’ve never made that claim, my apologies for saying so - lord knows bins, and northern, etc have done so countless times and I have to admit sometimes the posts all blend together.
Santos lied about a bunch of things in his background, such as graduating from college. But lying about your CV has never been grounds for being removed from Congress. The criminal activity was. And as soon as he was indicted and the HEC completed their investigation they forced him out.

Democrats refused to even hold a vote on removing Menendez, even after they found gold bars in his house that were given to him on behalf of a member of the Qatari royal family.

Whatever the history of Dems and Republicans policing their own, this is one particular case where Dems would be wise to just pretend it never happened and move forward. There is no justification for puffing out your chests.
 
Santos lied about a bunch of things in his background, such as graduating from college. But lying about your CV has never been grounds for being removed from Congress. The criminal activity was. And as soon as he was indicted and the HEC completed their investigation they forced him out.

Democrats refused to even hold a vote on removing Menendez, even after they found gold bars in his house that were given to him on behalf of a member of the Qatari royal family.

Whatever the history of Dems and Republicans policing their own, this is one particular case where Dems would be wise to just pretend it never happened and move forward. There is no justification for puffing out your chests.


You’re downplaying the ethical stuff here.

Again, as for Menendez, politically - as much as we think it’s crap, no party leader worth anything puts a vote on the floor like that unless they know the count. Only thing worse than waiting like they did to kick him out would have been having the vote early like you wanted…and then several members vote no. He still gets expelled cuz obviously the republicans would have leaped at the chance to reduce the Democratic majority, but now you’ve embarrassed lord knows how many members of your caucus, when you have no margin for error.
 
You’re downplaying the ethical stuff here.

Again, as for Menendez, politically - as much as we think it’s crap, no party leader worth anything puts a vote on the floor like that unless they know the count. Only thing worse than waiting like they did to kick him out would have been having the vote early like you wanted…and then several members vote no. He still gets expelled cuz obviously the republicans would have leaped at the chance to reduce the Democratic majority, but now you’ve embarrassed lord knows how many members of your caucus, when you have no margin for error.
that's what happened with santos

more republicans voted against expulsion than for it
 
that's what happened with santos

more republicans voted against expulsion than for it
frankly, using santos as an example here isn’t the best. The guy was a unicorn for how many ethical concerns that kept popping around him, to say nothing of the criminal charges as well.

I can’t think of anyone else who had as many issues as he had - it’s still astounding it all didn’t come up in his primary battle or general election.
 
Even in your utterly delusional world there are no points to be scored here. Democrats kept him in the Senate until they had no choice but to force him out. There are plenty of Trump issues to complain about. You’d be wise to put the Menendez in the lock box and focus on Donny.
You forgot Schumer giving him the foreign relations committee chairmanship in 2021. This was AFTER the Senate ethics committee “severely admonished” him in 2017.

 
You’re downplaying the ethical stuff here.

Again, as for Menendez, politically - as much as we think it’s crap, no party leader worth anything puts a vote on the floor like that unless they know the count. Only thing worse than waiting like they did to kick him out would have been having the vote early like you wanted…and then several members vote no. He still gets expelled cuz obviously the republicans would have leaped at the chance to reduce the Democratic majority, but now you’ve embarrassed lord knows how many members of your caucus, when you have no margin for error.
So your explanation for why Dems kept Menendez until after he was convicted is that not enough Dems were willing to vote him out? Is that supposed to be a compelling argument?
 
So your explanation for why Dems kept Menendez until after he was convicted is that not enough Dems were willing to vote him out? Is that supposed to be a compelling argument?
That’s my opinion yeah - not defending that either…but we see it time and again with members of both parties who land in hot water for stuff that would get you or me either. Senators especially who are normally older, know where skeletons are buried, etc., and the senate has traditionally been the legislative body that moves slow under the best of times.

Include in that a narrow senate majority with two members (sinema and manchin) who were already on lukewarm terms…it’s not surprising to me that Schumer held off on a floor vote until he knew the bulk of his caucus supported it.

Again not defending that, just what I think was going on.
 
Instead, Santos was forced out shortly after he was indicted and the House Ethics Committee completed their investigation. More than 8 months before he decided to plead guilty.
There were three votes to expel Santos, including the final successful one. The GOP voted no on expulsion all three times. Shut your piehole.
 
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