Michael Moore's New Movie - "Where to Invade Next"

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I tend to look at more as an efficiency of govt and our economy issue. Unfortunately we can't keep people from popping out kids and global population seems to be a real problem, plus today we have ample population in the US.

Do we really need more people via immigration or will organic population growth be sufficient for our countries needs? If yes then any immigrants brought into the USA we would want to have skills that will benefit the entire US.

It's like we are a company that currently has no open jobs but "man o man" if we could ever get that guy we would make room for them (kind of like how Tom Crean makes room for new recruits for Indiana basketball).

Perhaps we should restrict births here so we can pick better citizens who "have skills that will benefit the entire US."

Personally, I think people who go to the extra effort to be here should be given consideration ahead of those who think they are "entitled" just because they were born here and their parents just happen to be citizens.

 

[lawsonhawk]

Funny. I didn't think we'd find "immigration policy" on that list. I wish some of these leftist ass hats who praise places like Denmark, would actually have the balls or intellect to admit that none of these places would have a smidgen of their economic "success" without their "draconian" GTFO and STFO immigration policies that GOPers get ripped for wanting to emulate.

Weird how none of them talk about bringing that shit here. But all the free shit for anyone who crosses? Hell yeah! Idiot cowards.

My SIL went to Finland as a Fulbright scholar and wound up marrying a Fin. She moved there . . . hasn't been able to get a job in 10 years. She literally had two kids just to find a way to fill her time. Has called her mom every day in that time, and talks her ear off for over an hour because people there are such DB's to foreigners.

 

[unIowa]

Perhaps we should restrict births here so we can pick better citizens who "have skills that will benefit the entire US."

Personally, I think people who go to the extra effort to be here should be given consideration ahead of those who think they are "entitled" just because they were born here and their parents just happen to be citizens.

I have no issue with that, who do you suggest we should allow birth children to and who do you suggest kicking out first?

Also, we are talking about 'birth right' citizenship here...those fetal tissues were just along for the ride prior to being born on US soil, really they didn't do shit to get here.

I wish we would just follow the European model, they are better than us in every way.

 

[unIowa]

My SIL went to Finland as a Fulbright scholar and wound up marrying a Fin. She moved there . . . hasn't been able to get a job in 10 years. She literally had two kids just to find a way to fill her time. Has called her mom every day in that time, and talks her ear off for over an hour because people there are such DB's to foreigners.

It's because tribalism is a natural trait in most humans and unless one is willing to step outside of your comfort zone or your surrounding environment forces you too most people revert to what is easy vs what makes them uncomfortable.

I am not saying it is right, just saying that it is a reality of our make-up.

 

[iammrhawkeyes]

First you agreed there are curtains, then you decided they were not there. Your decorator must be insane.

As an amateur decorator, I generally like the curtains to match the drapes. There are exceptions.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

First you agreed there are curtains, then you decided they were not there. Your decorator must be insane.

No, I agreed that that most people don't know about the behind the scenes stuff. That's not because there are curtains necessarily, it is because they refuse to look.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I have no issue with that, who do you suggest we should allow birth children to and who do you suggest kicking out first?

I've always thought people should get a "free baby" and then have to prove they are good, responsible parents before being allowed another. What the criteria are to establish that would be up for discussion.

An alternative that I like even better, in the abstract, is for every person to donate sperm or ova when young. Then they live their lives. Late in life or after death, their lives are evaluated to determine whether they have "earned" the right for their seed to contribute to a next generation. People who want to have a child can choose from approved sperm and ova to form the genetic basis of their child.

Combine those approaches and you get 1 free child from approved genetic stock and then approved parents get additional children from approved stock.

Of course you'd never get this sort of thing through a vote. But it's still interesting to imagine.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I wish we would just follow the European model, they are better than us in every way.

You aren't the first person to say that, but I'm still waiting for someone to explain why they think that's a better approach.

 

[naturalmwa]

No, I agreed that that most people don't know about the behind the scenes stuff. That's not because there are curtains necessarily, it is because they refuse to look.

Oh stop fighting, you trapped yourself. Kiss my ring and you can be forgiven.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Oh stop fighting, you trapped yourself. Kiss my ring and you can be forgiven.

No, you're taking punches and you clearly are not aware of your surroundings.

 

[YellowSnow51]

Why don't you explain it to us?

I would, but seeing as you believe "propaganda" and "news" are synonyms, I'm pretty sure I'd lose you when I used each of those words differently.

Hell, I'll try anyway....

"5 alarm fire on Main Street last night..." = News

"5 alarm fire on Main Street last night, most likely caused by a joint venture between the Bush's and Bin Ladens while selling guns to children" = Michael Moore News (propaganda)