Michael Zachary
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Hmm...one of the most dominating guys in Iowas largest class. His last interview he said he was choosing between Iowa and Nebraska. This board was salivating over him a couple weeks ago and many were predicting him to beat Happel. All of those reasons make his decision surprising. Maybe I'm just an emotional guy though.
Despite what people on this board think, I haven't seen anything suggesting he is D1 material. Maybe D1 walk-on, but not scholarship worthy.
I'd take him, dude has upside carved in the back of his head.
Great suggestion but you are wrong. He had d1 offers(not fulls but not walk on). Just heard he wants to play football too so that's why he's going there.
I was curious as I believe he projects 141 so I looked at the wrestling roster.....damn they have a ton of guys on the roster. Also curious about their football team since he seems like a small guy for college football and they have quite a few guys who are on the tiny size from a football perspective. Maybe it is the right fit for him, time will tell. Still a bit surprised as well from the recent talk about his future.
He could be talking about national accomplishments? Maybe just because someone can dominate the Iowa State Tournament doesn't always mean they are D1 talent. I don't know his thoughts just trying to help.
Knowing a little on how NAIA scholarships work I'm sure he got a nice chunk of money. Also if he is a good student he is probably paying next to nothing for school.
Similar scenario to what Ryan Parmely did this year at Upper Iowa, played football as a true freshman and saw a good deal of action and then qualified for Div 2 nationals in wrestling as a true freshman. Impressive first season.
State championships are great. But on the national level his accomplishments are thin. He might have a lot of potential but at best he's a project.
Not sure scholarship money was completely a deciding factor as his father is a doctor. It was actually his dad he saved the Creston kid at State Duals a year or 2 ago.
How do NAIA scholarships work these days? In 1967, they could pay for tuition and books only. Could not pay for board and room. If this was still the case, he could live at home while attending Grand View. And while I'm on this thread, I think he could possibly start at 149 as a freshman, but if he's playing football he may not want to cut that far. But I doubt we see him above 165 during his 4 years.
He did not wrestle full time was all state in fb as well if he stays at it with wrestling will be a good get for anyone.
Money isnt the issue with that family. Dad's a doctor and most of the kids have went to Dowling and then Central. Not cheap to go to either place. Iowa is cheaper than Central. And if he wanted free school then they wouldn't drive past Indianola to go to Dowling every day. its all about Religion and academics, never money. Trust me on that. .
Its as simple as the kid likes football and he can do both at Grandview at a championship level in that division. It had nothing to do with paying whatever to go wherever.
And If he wasn't such a good wrestler and kick returner he would be at Central doing both. But he's a better athlete than D3 for both sports.
The real winner at this moment is Coach Mitchell, but the real winner in two years will be the football team because his younger brother is a lot bigger and one heck of a Running back for Dowling this past fall.
Its as simple as the kid likes football and he can do both at Grandview at a championship level in that division. It had nothing to do with paying whatever to go wherever.
And If he wasn't such a good wrestler and kick returner he would be at Central doing both. But he's a better athlete than D3 for both sports.
The real winner at this moment is Coach Mitchell, but the real winner in two years will be the football team because his younger brother is a lot bigger and one heck of a Running back for Dowling this past fall.
Some guys with that profile develop. Some don't. That's what makes them a project.
after reading this thread what surprises me is that a son of a doctor and probably a very smart kid is making college choice with sports determining anything about where he goes, but I guess grad school is the more important factor for his future.
Are you still talking jibberish from the open assed double bitch slap that San Souci gave you? Kid is a talent. No more of a project than pretty much every high school kid not in the top 30-40.
No. I ran away hard. Couldn't stand the thought of getting whipped up on by 10 year olds. The kid isn't a must get; would have been a nice addition but if we have dreams of competing with PSU he doesn't fit the profile of a need recruit.
It's hard to determine if he doesn't fit the profile. We can develop strength & technique We can't develop speed & athleticism. I do agree he may be lacking overall experience. Given a year to develop as RSF he could be a real stud, he has the natural tools. I think it is pretty obvious we need some speed and athleticism to keep up with PSU.
Family must think it is a good fit for their reasons. Possibly playing both sports is important. Maybe he wants more athletic aid. It could be that his grades aren't stellar. He may want a smaller school and class sizes. Possibly he would like to stay close to home. It could even be that he got along great with the coaches...even a preexisting relationship with them and/or wrestlers on the team.
I doubt we know for sure but it could be for any number of reasons. Good job GV and best of luck to the young man.
I doubt we know for sure but it could be for any number of reasons. Good job GV and best of luck to the young man.
It isn't hard to determine. Kids like this are 50/50. Maybe less. Recruit a room full of them and PSU is going to own you 19 years out of 20. Maybe more.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to take a kid like this but it isn't an overall strategy for winning national titles.
Spooner is nailing it. This kid would be a nice get as a walk on and maybe he would turn into something great. 2X Iowa (maybe about the 10th best state) state champs do not excite me much without some national accomplishments to back them up.
Some of you have much higher opinions on him than are deserved. It really makes me wonder if you are personal friends family.
Some of you have much higher opinions on him than are deserved. It really makes me wonder if you are personal friends family.
The thought that this is the kind of kid we need to compete with PSU is outright laughable. Nolf, Nickal, McIntosh, Retherford are the kind of guys we need. These guys are proven commodities at the highest national and world levels coming out of high school.
I don't think anybody was salivating over the prospect of him coming to Iowa, but the kid has huge upside. I don't know when this kid started wrestling, but I know that for the last four years he's been wrestling part time. You put a kid like him in the Iowa room for five years, where all of a sudden he's eating, breathing and shitting D1 wrestling, the cream is going to rise to the top. He has a very high level of athleticism and can do some things that others (who are more seasoned wrestlers than he is) can't.
Look how much better Edwin Cooper has gotten in just two years in the Iowa room. He was a D-2 runner-up who looked pretty bad last year (2014) at Midlands. All of a sudden he top 4 in the B10 and a threat to end his career on a D-1 podium.
When guys buy into the Iowa program and have something to work with to begin with, they tend to succeed. Our coaching staff has a knack for getting our athletes to live up to or exceed their potential.
Wish the kid luck.
My 2 cents.
Look how much better Edwin Cooper has gotten in just two years in the Iowa room. He was a D-2 runner-up who looked pretty bad last year (2014) at Midlands. All of a sudden he top 4 in the B10 and a threat to end his career on a D-1 podium.
When guys buy into the Iowa program and have something to work with to begin with, they tend to succeed. Our coaching staff has a knack for getting our athletes to live up to or exceed their potential.
Wish the kid luck.
My 2 cents.
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From what I have been told (by the guys at the North/South all star meet) it's not happening.
Exactly, anyone who had watched Zachary wrestle and thinks he's any good must be related to him. He doesn't pass the eyeball test at all. What a clumsy mess that kid is. I also agree we need to give whatever financial aid we were going to give to Zachary to a Nolf or Nickal to entice them to transfer here.
You obviously haven't watched the kid wrestle. He is a stud. He is a 2 time state champ and finished 3rd as a sophomore. Didn't have a single match this year that he was challenged in. He beat a guy in the Iowa room for his first title. He also had scholarship money from Nebraska if he wanted it, I thought that was a done deal. I'm not sure why he mentioned Iowa, because I don't think it was an option really-his choice, not because they weren't recruiting. In the end it came down to wanting to play both sports, he truly loves them both and in fact probably loves football more.
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Cooper won cadet freestyle in Fargo and took 2nd in Junior freestyle. He was the #30 overall recruit in his class. That is a guy we should be recruiting, and if it weren't for grades he would have been D1 from the get go. Last year was basically his freshman year in D1 and an adjustment year. Had he been at Iowa all 5 years he would probably be an AA already and people would never had heard of Michael Kelly.
He is a good wrestler, no doubt. He should have been targeted as a preferred walk on, and it sounds like he was. But he is not a guy that should be getting any money at a national championship contending program. That is my only contention, and him going to GV is not a big loss for Iowa. There are lots of guys out there with his level of accomplishments and athleticism.
Then I assume Paul Glynn isn't getting any money from our national championship contending program? Because I watched Zachary beat him in last year's state finals without too much trouble, and MZ looks a helluva lot better now than he was then.
No way he is getting any athletic scholarship. Never won a state championship, and never did anything nationally. Good room guys, but not going to help us win national championships.
But, Glynn is a good comparison. As far as I can tell, Glynn is the only guy that MZ has wrestled that would be a good indicator of how he'd do in D1. MZ is a tiny bit better than Glynn.
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