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Military Throwing the Book at Bergdahl

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I used the same article so it really depends on who you want to believe has the most facts. Just another reason that we shouldn't use our OPINIONS to decide what should happen to Bergdahl.

A State Department official, though, disagreed with the characterization of the intelligence and how it relates to the “Taliban Five’s” activities.

“None of the five individuals has returned to the battlefield and none of the five have left Qatar,” the official said. “Since their transfer many actions have been taken to restrict the actions of these individuals, and they are all being closely monitored by the United States and Qatar.

They were Commanders. Do they need to "return to the battlefield"? Or, leave Qatar for that matter? Plenty of terror sympathizers in Qatar.
 
Let's say for cigaretteman and freds sake, these weren't "high profile " terrorists. Just run of the mill, average, every day terrorists. In what world are 5. Yes, FIVE of them equal to one American?

Don't answer. It's liberal anti America logic.
I'm with you. The apparent 'ranking' of the terrorists is irrelevant to me. Bergdahl deserted his fellow soldiers, put them at risk in the search & rescue, and I'm not convinced he didn't provide secrets to the Taliban. However trivial those may have been, if it puts even one American soldier in harms way that's treasonous in my book.
 
They were Commanders. Do they need to "return to the battlefield"? Or, leave Qatar for that matter? Plenty of terror sympathizers in Qatar.

Fair enough. The article that is stating that they may cause issues is from 2014. The article you quoted from in 2015 says that they haven't done any of what the 2014 article stated they COULD do (depending on who you believe). Sounds like both the US and Qatar have done a good job of monitoring these individuals. I guess until they actually do something that is considered a "terrorist activity" it looks like it was a good trade.
 
The guy should never have been in the Army, much less Afghanistan, and putting him on solo guard duty was just moronic. He washed out of the Coast Guard after a few weeks for pysch reasons. How did that NOT throw up a huge red flag for Army recruiters? Even his friends were astonished when he got into the Army.

“I was like, ‘Why and how did you even get in?’” said Kim Harrison, a close friend of Bergdahl's. “‘How did they let you?’ I was furious.”
Maybe they were running short on cannon fodder and needed any warm body.
 
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This is the correct answer.
Wrong. If he walked off on his own accord, the no soldier left behind policy should not be of primary concern...and we should not be risking other service member lives to recover a guy who didn't display the same loyalty back to his unit and this country.
 
So he's guilty until proven innocent in your eyes? I have no problem with your stance on the situation but you have to understand that just because you came to the conclusion that he's guilty doesn't mean everyone shares your opinion. If everyone who committed a crime had their fate determined by the "court of public opinion" there would be a lot of innocent people in jail/prison. So while you know for sure he was a deserter that doesn't mean he doesn't deserve a trial to determine what charges he's guilty of.

Maybe true, but when the evidence shows he left of his own free will it should give the administration even less reason to do something which it should not be doing in the first place and that is making deals with terrorists.

I don't like making hard rules when it comes to things like this but there is good reason not to negotiate with terrorists and when you are talking about a person who in all likelyhood walked of his own free will away from his post it's even less of a reason to do so.

Really looks silly to give up like 5 terrorists who are obviously going to back to what they where doing before, that is killing innocent people for a single soldier that we are just going to put on trial and likely put in prison the rest of his life.

I get not assuming he's guilt but when there is evidence of the guilt already there you don't go making deals like this to get him back. This was quite frankly a bad move by the administration.
 
Do we get to hold enemy combatants forever, even if they have not participated in war crimes? Do other countries have this same right, to hold American citizens they suspect have participated in war crimes, forever and without any published proof?
 
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Do we get to hold enemy combatants forever, even if they have not participated in war crimes? Do other countries have this same right, to hold American citizens they suspect have participated in war crimes, forever and without any published proof?

Not forever. Just until the fighting is done.
 
I'm still waiting for someone.....anyone to tell me why there was a Rose Garden ceremony? Can someone defend this?
 
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I'm still waiting for someone.....anyone to tell me why there was a Rose Garden ceremony? Can someone defend this?

No. That's just plain embarrassing.

Especially in the tongue of the enemy their son is on trial for collaborating with.

Make no mistake, Article 99 is reserved for collaborators. That is why it hasn't been seen since WWII.
 
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Deserter or not, you still don't leave a US serviceman behind. So, we got him back and now he can answer for his actions.
And sent 5 guys back in return to shoot young girls in the head for going to school, hang women in public for showing their faces, and blow up innocent people regularly to prove a point.
It wasn't the fact we brought this tard back, it's the fact our master negotiator in chief once again got his dog walked in a deal.
 
Not forever. Just until the fighting is done.
So Forever basically. This is a war that will never end. Does the same criteria hold if the Taliban capture American troops? Are you accepting of torture and undefined length of detention for them as well?
 
So Forever basically. This is a war that will never end. Does the same criteria hold if the Taliban capture American troops? Are you accepting of torture and undefined length of detention for them as well?

An unconventional war may require unconventional rules.
 
So Forever basically. This is a war that will never end. Does the same criteria hold if the Taliban capture American troops? Are you accepting of torture and undefined length of detention for them as well?

Ummm... The doesn't keep captured service personnel. The behead them or assassinate them.

Note I did not include this loser... Since he wasn't captured....
 
Why would this be an issue? At the time, no one knew if he'd been captured, deserted or whatever....to rail against the administration for how they handled his release after charges were filed make no sense, when the information at hand during those processes was clearly incomplete. Of course, it makes for great political points to those to are unable to understand this...

Um.....no.. Obviously you are the one who is ignorant to the situation. It was well known before Obama brought him home. Obama did this for political reasons and it backfired.
 
Fair enough. The article that is stating that they may cause issues is from 2014. The article you quoted from in 2015 says that they haven't done any of what the 2014 article stated they COULD do (depending on who you believe). Sounds like both the US and Qatar have done a good job of monitoring these individuals. I guess until they actually do something that is considered a "terrorist activity" it looks like it was a good trade.

Good enough trade to hold a rose garden ceremony?
 
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