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More disturbing news re: mRNA vaccines

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We comment on the study by Mulroney et al.(1) entitled: “N1-methylpseudouridylation of mRNA causes +1 ribosomal frameshifting.” (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3) The study found evidence in mice and humans for the misreading of the modRNA contained within the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to inadvertently produce “off-target” proteins capable of eliciting “off-target” immune responses. The authors propose that these novel proteins are the result of ribosomal frameshifting occasioned by the substitution of N1-methyl pseudouridine. The authors state that the “error prone” code is a safety concern with a “huge potential to be harmful” and that “it is essential that these therapeutics are designed to be free from unintended side-effects.” The findings reveal a developmental and regulatory failure to ask fundamental questions that could affect the safety and effectiveness of these products. According to WHO guidelines for mRNA vaccines, (2) manufacturers should provide details of “unexpected ORFs” (Open Reading Frames). The formation of these off-target proteins is not disclosed in the package insert for COMIRNATY. The finding that unintended proteins may be produced as a result of vaccination is sufficient cause for regulators to conduct full risk assessments of past or future harms that may have ensued. Given that this study was conducted under the auspices of the United Kingdom Government, we must assume UK regulators, manufacturers, and international regulatory agencies, including FDA, were apprised of the data many months ago. We await their account of what steps they have taken to investigate why the formation of off-target proteins was not discovered sooner, what toxic effects they may have caused and what steps they are taken to prevent harm in the future and to inform the public of these findings.

The authors state that “Although there is no evidence that frameshifted products in humans generated from BNT162b2
vaccination are associated with adverse outcomes.” It is unclear how it is possible to make this statement, given:
• The small number of vaccinated subjects (n=21) providing samples.
• This was not a controlled trial.
• None of these subjects had reported undue effects of vaccination. Accordingly, the sample is subject to selection
bias.
• The toxicology of these unintended proteins must be studied.
• The authors acknowledge the misdirected immunity “has huge potential to be harmful.”
• These proteins may already have contributed to vaccine toxicity, which now must be the subject of investigation.
The full sequence of these proteins should be provided. Further, the homologies between the proposed frameshifted
proteins and peptides and known proteins must be conducted using databases and tools such as BLAST. One of the
proteins identified was characterized as a chimeric protein. McKernan et al. (5) showed how in theory, a chimeric viral-
human protein might be formed that has a homology similarity to a human protein called gp130, which forms part of a
receptor for IL-6.
The premise for the study reveals a developmental and regulatory failure to ask fundamental questions that could affect
the safety and effectiveness of these products. This is no better exemplified by Pfizer’s retired head of vaccine R&D who
was quoted in Nature as saying: “We flew the aeroplane while we were still building it.” (6)

“The complete annotated sequence identifying all ORFs (including any unexpected ORFs) and all other sequence
elements (including their justification for use) should be provided. Justifications for the use of any specific noncoding
sequence and of structural elements such as the chosen 5` cap structure should be provided. [..] The anticipated function
and purpose of each gene sequence encoded in the mRNA should be indicated, as well as those of specific noncoding and
structural elements, explaining their contribution to the overall mode- or mechanism-of-action.”
If Mulroney et al. were able to predict the existence of frameshifted proteins, why were Pfizer’s scientists unable to do so?
The same question may be asked of regulators, especially in light of unresolved discrepancies and the specific obligation
imposed by the European Medical Agency on BioNTech regarding the identities of the observed Western Blot (WB) bands
obtained by in vitro expression assays.(7)
Documents disclosed under the FOIA (8) reveal that three categories of preclinical studies were not performed by Pfizer,
relevant to the current findings: 1) secondary pharmacodynamics, 2) safety pharmacology and 3) pharmacodynamic drug
interactions, In two of these categories, WHO guidelines were cited in justification (highlight added).

The package insert for COMIRNATY states (3):
“Each 0.3 mL dose of COMIRNATY (2023-2024 Formula) is formulated to contain 30 mcg of a nucleoside modified
messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant lineage XBB.1.5
(Omicron XBB.1.5).”
There is no mention of any other kind of protein.
The finding that unintended proteins may be produced as a result of vaccination is sufficient cause for regulators to conduct
full risk assessments of past or future harms that may have ensued. We note that regulators have previously failed to insist
on the study and assessment of risk of the pharmacology and toxicology of novel spike protein heterotrimers forming after
injection of the bivalent COVID-19 modRNA vaccines.(9)
 
We comment on the study by Mulroney et al.(1) entitled: “N1-methylpseudouridylation of mRNA causes +1 ribosomal frameshifting.” (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3) The study found evidence in mice and humans for the misreading of the modRNA contained within the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to inadvertently produce “off-target” proteins capable of eliciting “off-target” immune responses. The authors propose that these novel proteins are the result of ribosomal frameshifting occasioned by the substitution of N1-methyl pseudouridine. The authors state that the “error prone” code is a safety concern with a “huge potential to be harmful” and that “it is essential that these therapeutics are designed to be free from unintended side-effects.” The findings reveal a developmental and regulatory failure to ask fundamental questions that could affect the safety and effectiveness of these products. According to WHO guidelines for mRNA vaccines, (2) manufacturers should provide details of “unexpected ORFs” (Open Reading Frames). The formation of these off-target proteins is not disclosed in the package insert for COMIRNATY. The finding that unintended proteins may be produced as a result of vaccination is sufficient cause for regulators to conduct full risk assessments of past or future harms that may have ensued. Given that this study was conducted under the auspices of the United Kingdom Government, we must assume UK regulators, manufacturers, and international regulatory agencies, including FDA, were apprised of the data many months ago. We await their account of what steps they have taken to investigate why the formation of off-target proteins was not discovered sooner, what toxic effects they may have caused and what steps they are taken to prevent harm in the future and to inform the public of these findings.

The authors state that “Although there is no evidence that frameshifted products in humans generated from BNT162b2
vaccination are associated with adverse outcomes.” It is unclear how it is possible to make this statement, given:
• The small number of vaccinated subjects (n=21) providing samples.
• This was not a controlled trial.
• None of these subjects had reported undue effects of vaccination. Accordingly, the sample is subject to selection
bias.
• The toxicology of these unintended proteins must be studied.
• The authors acknowledge the misdirected immunity “has huge potential to be harmful.”
• These proteins may already have contributed to vaccine toxicity, which now must be the subject of investigation.
The full sequence of these proteins should be provided. Further, the homologies between the proposed frameshifted
proteins and peptides and known proteins must be conducted using databases and tools such as BLAST. One of the
proteins identified was characterized as a chimeric protein. McKernan et al. (5) showed how in theory, a chimeric viral-
human protein might be formed that has a homology similarity to a human protein called gp130, which forms part of a
receptor for IL-6.
The premise for the study reveals a developmental and regulatory failure to ask fundamental questions that could affect
the safety and effectiveness of these products. This is no better exemplified by Pfizer’s retired head of vaccine R&D who
was quoted in Nature as saying: “We flew the aeroplane while we were still building it.” (6)

“The complete annotated sequence identifying all ORFs (including any unexpected ORFs) and all other sequence
elements (including their justification for use) should be provided. Justifications for the use of any specific noncoding
sequence and of structural elements such as the chosen 5` cap structure should be provided. [..] The anticipated function
and purpose of each gene sequence encoded in the mRNA should be indicated, as well as those of specific noncoding and
structural elements, explaining their contribution to the overall mode- or mechanism-of-action.”
If Mulroney et al. were able to predict the existence of frameshifted proteins, why were Pfizer’s scientists unable to do so?
The same question may be asked of regulators, especially in light of unresolved discrepancies and the specific obligation
imposed by the European Medical Agency on BioNTech regarding the identities of the observed Western Blot (WB) bands
obtained by in vitro expression assays.(7)
Documents disclosed under the FOIA (8) reveal that three categories of preclinical studies were not performed by Pfizer,
relevant to the current findings: 1) secondary pharmacodynamics, 2) safety pharmacology and 3) pharmacodynamic drug
interactions, In two of these categories, WHO guidelines were cited in justification (highlight added).

The package insert for COMIRNATY states (3):
“Each 0.3 mL dose of COMIRNATY (2023-2024 Formula) is formulated to contain 30 mcg of a nucleoside modified
messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant lineage XBB.1.5
(Omicron XBB.1.5).”
There is no mention of any other kind of protein.
The finding that unintended proteins may be produced as a result of vaccination is sufficient cause for regulators to conduct
full risk assessments of past or future harms that may have ensued. We note that regulators have previously failed to insist
on the study and assessment of risk of the pharmacology and toxicology of novel spike protein heterotrimers forming after
injection of the bivalent COVID-19 modRNA vaccines.(9)
I saw that. The researchers are adamant that no harm was caused by the COVID vaccines.

This research would tend to support studies in South Africa and Australia on why the natural immune response diminished after vaccination.
 
Sounds like they need to go further and study this theory they have. But at this point it is just that, a theory, not proven. They just "proposing" there is a "potential" to be harmful.

The authors propose that these novel proteins are the result of ribosomal frameshifting occasioned by the substitution of N1-methyl pseudouridine. The authors state that the “error prone” code is a safety concern with a “huge potential to be harmful”

I am sure the anti-vax crowd will love this, but I wonder how they will feel about the chief editor of this publication raising the warning flags about global warning. It must be confusing to their political leanings.

 
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Sounds like they need to go further and study this theory they have. But at this point it is just that, a theory, not proven. They just "proposing" there is a "potential" to be harmful.

The authors propose that these novel proteins are the result of ribosomal frameshifting occasioned by the substitution of N1-methyl pseudouridine. The authors state that the “error prone” code is a safety concern with a “huge potential to be harmful”

I am sure the anti-vax crowd will love this, but I wonder how they will feel about the chief editor of this publication raising the warning flags about global warning. It must be confusing to their political leanings.

Not that I care one way or the other what your view is on this but:

Can you non-science people try and figure out what "theory" means. Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection is as good as it gets for science. It is supported by many fields, stood the test of time, and makes predictions.

You sound like an idiot when you say: the bolded above. If you don't know what a theory means, here's a hint: you don't have a very good grasp of how science works. So much so that you probably should refrain from posting about "research".
 
Who did the better research? Sounds like someone somewhere with an agenda is cherry picking.
Yeah, that's a problem. Agenda. Who is most heavily invested in making sure the vaccines were accepted without question? Who funds the studies?
 
The authors state that “Although there is no evidence that frameshifted products in humans generated from BNT162b2
vaccination are associated with adverse outcomes.” It is unclear how it is possible to make this statement, given:
That's because we haven't seen those "adverse outcomes", idiot.
 
This research would tend to support studies in South Africa and Australia on why the natural immune response diminished after vaccination.

Not what happened.

The effectiveness of the vaccines waned/diminished. You are badly misinterpreting things here.
 
We comment on the study by Mulroney et al.(1) entitled: “N1-methylpseudouridylation of mRNA causes +1 ribosomal frameshifting.” (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06800-3) The study found evidence in mice and humans for the misreading of the modRNA contained within the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to inadvertently produce “off-target” proteins capable of eliciting “off-target” immune responses. The authors propose that these novel proteins are the result of ribosomal frameshifting occasioned by the substitution of N1-methyl pseudouridine. The authors state that the “error prone” code is a safety concern with a “huge potential to be harmful” and that “it is essential that these therapeutics are designed to be free from unintended side-effects.” The findings reveal a developmental and regulatory failure to ask fundamental questions that could affect the safety and effectiveness of these products. According to WHO guidelines for mRNA vaccines, (2) manufacturers should provide details of “unexpected ORFs” (Open Reading Frames). The formation of these off-target proteins is not disclosed in the package insert for COMIRNATY. The finding that unintended proteins may be produced as a result of vaccination is sufficient cause for regulators to conduct full risk assessments of past or future harms that may have ensued. Given that this study was conducted under the auspices of the United Kingdom Government, we must assume UK regulators, manufacturers, and international regulatory agencies, including FDA, were apprised of the data many months ago. We await their account of what steps they have taken to investigate why the formation of off-target proteins was not discovered sooner, what toxic effects they may have caused and what steps they are taken to prevent harm in the future and to inform the public of these findings.

The authors state that “Although there is no evidence that frameshifted products in humans generated from BNT162b2
vaccination are associated with adverse outcomes.” It is unclear how it is possible to make this statement, given:
• The small number of vaccinated subjects (n=21) providing samples.
• This was not a controlled trial.
• None of these subjects had reported undue effects of vaccination. Accordingly, the sample is subject to selection
bias.
• The toxicology of these unintended proteins must be studied.
• The authors acknowledge the misdirected immunity “has huge potential to be harmful.”
• These proteins may already have contributed to vaccine toxicity, which now must be the subject of investigation.
The full sequence of these proteins should be provided. Further, the homologies between the proposed frameshifted
proteins and peptides and known proteins must be conducted using databases and tools such as BLAST. One of the
proteins identified was characterized as a chimeric protein. McKernan et al. (5) showed how in theory, a chimeric viral-
human protein might be formed that has a homology similarity to a human protein called gp130, which forms part of a
receptor for IL-6.
The premise for the study reveals a developmental and regulatory failure to ask fundamental questions that could affect
the safety and effectiveness of these products. This is no better exemplified by Pfizer’s retired head of vaccine R&D who
was quoted in Nature as saying: “We flew the aeroplane while we were still building it.” (6)

“The complete annotated sequence identifying all ORFs (including any unexpected ORFs) and all other sequence
elements (including their justification for use) should be provided. Justifications for the use of any specific noncoding
sequence and of structural elements such as the chosen 5` cap structure should be provided. [..] The anticipated function
and purpose of each gene sequence encoded in the mRNA should be indicated, as well as those of specific noncoding and
structural elements, explaining their contribution to the overall mode- or mechanism-of-action.”
If Mulroney et al. were able to predict the existence of frameshifted proteins, why were Pfizer’s scientists unable to do so?
The same question may be asked of regulators, especially in light of unresolved discrepancies and the specific obligation
imposed by the European Medical Agency on BioNTech regarding the identities of the observed Western Blot (WB) bands
obtained by in vitro expression assays.(7)
Documents disclosed under the FOIA (8) reveal that three categories of preclinical studies were not performed by Pfizer,
relevant to the current findings: 1) secondary pharmacodynamics, 2) safety pharmacology and 3) pharmacodynamic drug
interactions, In two of these categories, WHO guidelines were cited in justification (highlight added).

The package insert for COMIRNATY states (3):
“Each 0.3 mL dose of COMIRNATY (2023-2024 Formula) is formulated to contain 30 mcg of a nucleoside modified
messenger RNA (modRNA) encoding the viral spike (S) glycoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 Omicron variant lineage XBB.1.5
(Omicron XBB.1.5).”
There is no mention of any other kind of protein.
The finding that unintended proteins may be produced as a result of vaccination is sufficient cause for regulators to conduct
full risk assessments of past or future harms that may have ensued. We note that regulators have previously failed to insist
on the study and assessment of risk of the pharmacology and toxicology of novel spike protein heterotrimers forming after
injection of the bivalent COVID-19 modRNA vaccines.(9)
Note: this is NOT a "study"; it is an "Op-Ed".
 
Not that I care one way or the other what your view is on this but:

Can you non-science people try and figure out what "theory" means. Darwin's Theory of Natural Selection is as good as it gets for science. It is supported by many fields, stood the test of time, and makes predictions.

You sound like an idiot when you say: the bolded above. If you don't know what a theory means, here's a hint: you don't have a very good grasp of how science works. So much so that you probably should refrain from posting about "research".

Fvcking facts
 
What could be wrong with unintended proteins?


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Meanwhile....in REAL science news:

Getting vaccinated AFTER you have had Covid results in even BETTER immunity to future exposures!!!



SARS-CoV-2 vaccination enhances the effector qualities of spike-specific T cells induced by COVID-19​

Collectively, these findings identify a molecular hallmark of hybrid immunity and suggest that vaccination after infection is associated with cumulative immunological benefits over time, potentially conferring enhanced protection against subsequent episodes of COVID-19.
 
I saw that. The researchers are adamant that no harm was caused by the COVID vaccines.

This research would tend to support studies in South Africa and Australia on why the natural immune response diminished after vaccination.
Anne Willis (one of the co-authors): ...it is very exciting that there is a way to fix the issue, which "massively de-risks this platform going forward."

Umm, how can you claim mRNA vaccines are very safe yet admit having to 'de-risk' them...in a massive fashion, no less? If they are extremely safe wouldn't they only need a slight de-risking and not a massive one? Seems these people are trying to sugar coat this disaster with an extra layer of bullshit.

Jail them all.
 
Anne Willis (one of the co-authors): ...it is very exciting that there is a way to fix the issue, which "massively de-risks this platform going forward."

Umm, how can you claim mRNA vaccines are very safe yet admit having to 'de-risk' them

Uh...because they were TESTED and NONE of those risks manifested themselves.
And, just because something is "low risk" doesn't mean you cannot make it "better".

It's why we now have BOTH shoulder seatbelts AND airbags in cars. When originally, we had NOTHING, then just "lap belts".
 
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Didn’t OP tell us an mRNA vaccine gave Bronnie James cardiac arrest? That was disturbing news as well.
Link to post where I said that? Because all I remember saying is that SOMEONE was lying about the situation. I don't believe I blamed it on the mRNA because I truly don't know.

Btw, is he playing basketball yet after his 'successful surgery'?
 
Link to post where I said that? Because all I remember saying is that SOMEONE was lying about the situation. I don't believe I blamed it on the mRNA because I truly don't know.

Btw, is he playing basketball yet after his 'successful surgery'?
I did say the experts were lying about the 'congenital heart disease', and that I don't know if he'll ever play competitively again but I hope I'm wrong.

Sue me.

Someone was lying. Family, doctor(s), media...who knows?

Just saying I'd avoid them 💉💉 if I was you.
Yeah, you really nailed it, with someone’s ‘lying about the congenital heart defect’, and ‘avoid the vaccine’ posts.

See post above mine about his current playing status.
 
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Yeah, you really nailed it, with someone’s ‘lying about the congenital heart defect’, and ‘avoid the vaccine’ posts.

See post above mine about current status.
"Didn’t OP tell us an mRNA vaccine gave Bronnie James cardiac arrest?" (LBoogie)

Again, 🤡, link to the post where I specifically said the mRNA vaccine gave him cardiac arrest? And my unsolicited advice regarding any and all vaccines go; I'd avoid them if I were you.

And do I need to 'nail it' as far as giving my opinion...isn't that what 99.9% of GIAOT is, just bullshit opinions? 🤡

Yes, I saw the post above yours re: his current status. It was the one that I had already given a thumbs up to before you replied and is consistent with the statement I made last summer when I said "I hope I'm wrong" about him never playing again. 🤡
 
"Didn’t OP tell us an mRNA vaccine gave Bronnie James cardiac arrest?" (LBoogie)

Again, 🤡, link to the post where I specifically said the mRNA vaccine gave him cardiac arrest? And my unsolicited advice regarding any and all vaccines go; I'd avoid them if I were you.

And do I need to 'nail it' as far as giving my opinion...isn't that what 99.9% of GIAOT is, just bullshit opinions? 🤡

Yes, I saw the post above yours re: his current status. It was the one that I had already given a thumbs up to before you replied and is consistent with the statement I made last summer when I said "I hope I'm wrong" about him never playing again. 🤡
In a thread discussing the vaccine and his condition, you claim his doctor’s were lying about the defect, and then advocating avoiding the shot (In the same post). Denying you weren’t implicating the vaccine is just you being a disingenuous 🤡/troll. My first post in the thread was tongue in cheek, and more about rubbing your nose in your previous shit takes. You will never own it though, as that is what a 🤡 does.

You don’t need to nail an opinion, but you do need to realize that getting them thrown back in your face is fair game too. Quit with the pearl clutching. FWIW, what I posted was a statement and a prediction.
 
In a thread discussing the vaccine and his condition, you claim his doctor’s were lying about the defect, and then advocating avoiding the shot (In the same post). Denying you weren’t implicating the vaccine is just you being a disingenuous 🤡/troll. My first post in the thread was tongue in cheek, and more about rubbing your nose in your previous shit takes. You will never own it though, as that is what a 🤡 does.

You don’t need to nail an opinion, but you do need to realize that getting them thrown back in your face is fair game too. Quit with the pearl clutching. FWIW, what I posted was a statement and a prediction.
What is known (assuming people are telling the truth).

9/28/21 LeBron states in a press conference that he and his family were all vaccinated.

7/24/23 Bronny suffers a cardiac arrest in practice.

7/26/23 CNN article informed us that Bronny had undergone a cardiac screening for potential NBA players several months prior (Columbia Medical, I believe). "Normal results of (his) tests are a good sign and likely means the episode wasn't caused by an anatomical preexisting problem." Now, one can only assume that the NBA has an extremely knowledgeable cardiac team using state of the art equipment. And it goes without saying that they would have done a very thorough job considering it was the son of their very own Billion Dollar Baby (LeBron).

8/25/23 The medical staff (including the cardiologist for the NBA's player Assn.) issued a press release saying that Bronny had an "anatomically AND functionally significant" defect in his heart.

IF these experts were competent at their jobs and IF they were telling the truth then it seems that there is only one logical conclusion to what actually happened to that unfortunate lad's heart.

Gee, whatever could it be?
(Hint, hint). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8438590/
 
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Not what happened.

The effectiveness of the vaccines waned/diminished. You are badly misinterpreting things here.
No, you are making things up. That's what you do when something new comes out that contradicts your narrative. Then it's "misinterpret". Facts are facts. There were at least two places in the world where vaccination rates were over 90% that have high rates of immune response problems.
 
No, you are making things up.

No; I'm not.

Those vaccines become less effective over time; in large part due to a rapidly changing virus. One that mutates 2x to 5x faster than flu. That was something entirely unexpected.
 
What is known (assuming people are telling the truth).

9/28/21 LeBron states in a press conference that he and his family were all vaccinated.

7/24/23 Bronny suffers a cardiac arrest in practice.

7/26/23 CNN article informed us that Bronny had undergone a cardiac screening for potential NBA players several months prior (Columbia Medical, I believe). "Normal results of (his) tests are a good sign and likely means the episode wasn't caused by an anatomical preexisting problem." Now, one can only assume that the NBA has an extremely knowledgeable cardiac team using state of the art equipment. And it goes without saying that they would have done a very thorough job considering it was the son of their very own Billion Dollar Baby (LeBron).

8/25/23 The medical staff (including the cardiologist for the NBA's player Assn.) issued a press release saying that Bronny had an "anatomically AND functionally significant" defect in his heart.

IF these experts were competent at their jobs and IF they were telling the truth then it seems that there is only one logical conclusion to what actually happened to that unfortunate lad's heart.

Gee, whatever could it be?
(Hint, hint). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8438590/
Are you now claiming it’s the vaccine…even though you said you never said it was the vaccine?

The rest of your post tragically illustrates a combination of confirmation bias and ignorance.
 
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Are you now claiming it’s the vaccine…even though you said you never said it was the vaccine?

The rest of your post tragically illustrates a combination of confirmation bias and ignorance.
Are you still refusing to say how one of the finest cardio teams in the world absolutely whiffed on seeing an "ANATOMICALLY AND FUNCTIONALLY SIGNIFICANT HEART DEFECT" (emphasis added) in April only to admit in August that "Oh, hey! Yeah, there it is! We found it, baby!!!!"

You accused me of saying an mRNA jab caused his cardiac arrest, which I never did. All I did was speculate and ask a few questions.

Their story is so full of holes it's hardly worth commenting on anymore. Boost away, boys, and good luck!
 
I recently got a Moderna booster after having all the others Pfizer….and my 5G reception has PLUMMETED! My George Soros and Bill gates talking points are rarely received anymore!

Need to study why Moderna is so much less effective in the 5G radio wave sphere.
 
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Both of my boys have had the Rona this week. So far, so good on this year’s vax keeping me away from joining them.
 
Are you still refusing to say how one of the finest cardio teams in the world absolutely whiffed on seeing an "ANATOMICALLY AND FUNCTIONALLY SIGNIFICANT HEART DEFECT" (emphasis added) in April only to admit in August that "Oh, hey! Yeah, there it is! We found it, baby!!!!"

You accused me of saying an mRNA jab caused his cardiac arrest, which I never did. All I did was speculate and ask a few questions.

Their story is so full of holes it's hardly worth commenting on anymore. Boost away, boys, and good luck!
You do realize diagnostic tests, imaging, and interpretations aren’t infallible, right? Whether that’s human error, or the inability/limitations to assess certain conditions. You lack any real level of fidelity to this situation, as well as the education and background to make such assured, conclusive statements. You also seem ignorant enough to not recognize these facts about yourself.

Your previous post says there is only one logical conclusion, and provided a “hint.” Why not just state it plainly instead of beating around the bush like a coward?
 
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