More stories of ICE being ICE...

[Joes Place]

ICE stormed into the wrong house, trashed the place, and made women/girls stand outside in the rain in their underwear. ICE also stole phones, laptops, and cash savings from the family, who moved to OKC two weeks ago.

https://kfor.com/news/local/were-citizens-oklahoma-city-family-traumatized-after-ice-raids-home-but-they-werent-suspects/

To be fair, these were not "native Oklahomans"....they were "recent immigrants from Maryland"...

 

[LunchBox50]

"Can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs, amirite?!?" — MAGA, probably

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Serious question for you people. Do you always believe one side of a story?

 

[MichaelKeller99]

The Waco survivors would be outraged by this lack of due process and violation of civil rights...had their government not burnt them all to a crisp.

 

[bunsen82]

Serious question for you people. Do you always believe one side of a story?

Kind of like charging a judge, I am sure you are considering the other side?

 

[Colonoscopy]

Serious question for you people. Do you always believe one side of a story?

I mean it's a local Oklahoma news station. Pretty good odds they got the wrong home.

 

[Joes Place]

I mean it's a local Oklahoma news station. Pretty good odds they got the wrong home.

Or, got the "right" home after the people they were targeting had moved out, and the lady w/ her little girls from MD moved in, and no one at ICE bothered to check.

There was literally no reason for a no-knock, nighttime "raid" for deporting people here (or pretty much 'ever', unless you presume violent criminals are there). One of these times, they're going to screw up and raid a home of someone who has legal weapons in the house, who will presume it's a robbery and start shooting. Then, we'll have a news story about a US citizen who was killed along w/ several ICE agents due to this overzealous "deport everyone" nonsense.

 

[Joes Place]

The Waco survivors would be outraged by this lack of due process

Waco had due process, and were told to surrender for several days IIRC... NOT what happened here at all.

 

[WDSMHAWK]

Putting Trump 2 era ICE agents on trial should be one of the focuses in the next Dem administration

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

I seem to remember some of you questioning why Noem has $3,000 in cash in her purse.

And then we have the below paragraph in the OP's article. Yet not a peep from HROT lefties.

Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”

 

[Joes Place]

Marisa said the agents tore apart every square inch of the house and what few belongings they had, seizing their phones, laptops and their life savings in cash as “evidence.”

So, because these were "poor people", their story doesn't matter to you.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

There was literally no reason for a no-knock, nighttime "raid" for deporting people here (or pretty much 'ever', unless you presume violent criminals are there).

Where in the article did it say that?

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

So, because these were "poor people", their story doesn't matter to you.

What makes you think they're poor?

 

[Joes Place]

What makes you think they're poor?

You're the one that claimed they had their "life savings" in the house with them.

Pretty sure that probably was not a 6-figure total.... Likely not even 5.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

You're the one that claimed they had their "life savings" in the house with them.

Pretty sure that probably was not a 6-figure total.... Likely not even 5.

I didn't make that claim. According to the article, "Marisa" did.

Why are presuming they're poor?

 

[BelemNole]

Serious question for you people. Do you always believe one side of a story?

You're such a dipshit. If you actually read the article you'd see both the marshals and the FBI acknowledged the raid.

 

[HROT]

Putting Trump 2 era ICE agents on trial should be one of the focuses in the next Dem administration

Hence the talk of blanket police immunity

 

[tumorboy]

One of the most disturbing things in the thread is no agency will take responsibility for the Raid. Homeland Security is aware of it that’s all. That’s ****ed up.

 

[Joes Place]

I didn't make that claim.

You're the one highlighting it, for some odd reason.

These were US citizens. That doesn't appear to resonate w/ you at all.

 

[Chishawk1425]

ICE stormed into the wrong house, trashed the place, and made women/girls stand outside in the rain in their underwear. ICE also stole phones, laptops, and cash savings from the family, who moved to OKC two weeks ago.

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https://kfor.com/news/local/were-citizens-oklahoma-city-family-traumatized-after-ice-raids-home-but-they-werent-suspects/

To be fair, these were not "native Oklahomans"....they were "recent immigrants from Maryland"...

MAGA is Taliban
Taliban is MAGA

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

You're such a dipshit. If you actually read the article you'd see both the marshals and the FBI acknowledged the raid.

LOL. When did I say that the raid didn't happen?

 

[Joes Place]

Serious question for you people. Do you always believe one side of a story?

LOL. When did I dispute that the raid happened?

Life Comes At You Fast...

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Life Comes At You Fast...

Don't be simple.

The raid obviously happened. The details are what I'm speaking of. Two sides to every story.

 

[Joes Place]

Don't be simple.

The raid obviously happened.

Then why are you questioning it?

They literally raided the wrong property. And would not listen to US citizens who told them that.
Entire incident could have been avoided had they conducted a normal search, at normal hours.

 

[NorthEndzoneCrew]

Look, these folks can prove they are citizens now. This is how it has to work, if we assume everyone is a citizen then we will never solve the invasion crisis!! Trust in Trump and MAGA!! He will do what is right and just

 

[tumorboy]

Don't be simple.

The raid obviously happened. The details are what I'm speaking of. Two sides to every story.

Their side is they weren’t 100% certain illegals were still living at the house. But evidently certain enough to execute a raid. Something in tactics needs revision before executing a raid. And certainly follow up procedures if they get the wrong house.

 

[Joes Place]

Don't be simple.

 

[NorthernHawkeye]

Then why are you questioning it?

They literally raided the wrong property. And would not listen to US citizens who told them that.
Entire incident could have been avoided had they conducted a normal search, at normal hours.

There you go again. You've only heard one side of the story. You wouldn't be selected as a juror.

 

[Joes Place]

There you go again. You've only heard one side of the story.

ICE took all their stuff. Without a valid warrant, because the people living there were not named on the warrant.
What "part of the story" do you need verified, here?

 

[NorthEndzoneCrew]

There you go again. You've only heard one side of the story. You wouldn't be selected as a juror.

Exactly!! Most people know they now need to carry proof of citizenship now as we are actually doing something about the invasion.

How hard would it have been to calmly present the officers with a birth certificate or U.S. passport??

 

[Jerome Silberman]

The fallout when some of these plain-clothes and no-knocks get shot is going to be horrendous.

 

[tumorboy]

There you go again. You've only heard one side of the story. You wouldn't be selected as a juror.

The new tenants had lived there for two weeks. Idk, maybe before executing a raid you’d want to observe the place in the previous 24 hrs.

 

[NorthEndzoneCrew]

The new tenants had lived there for two weeks. Idk, maybe before executing a raid you’d want to observe the place in the previous 24 hrs.

That is a fairly onerous burden to place on hardworking LEO’s just trying to do their job!

 

[Jerome Silberman]

The new tenants had lived there for two weeks. Idk, maybe before executing a raid you’d want to observe the place in the previous 24 hrs.

You'll have to forgive him. He's a stupid hypocrite.

 

[tumorboy]

You'll have to forgive him. He's a stupid hypocrite.

I’m looking at it from a LEO safety stand point. You want as much current intelligence as possible. That way unnecessary lose of life doesn’t occur be it LEO’s or the public.

 

[Joes Place]

How hard would it have been to calmly present the officers with a birth certificate or U.S. passport??

...or a Maryland driver's license. Which she almost certainly did.

 

[Joes Place]

How hard would it have been to calmly present the officers with a birth certificate or U.S. passport??

How hard would it have been to realize that the names on your warrant do not match ANY of the people within the house, and to NOT confiscate all their shit in the middle of the night?

 

[NorthEndzoneCrew]

How hard would it have been to realize that the names on your warrant do not match ANY of the people within the house, and to NOT confiscate all their shit in the middle of the night?

That’s asking quite a bit!!

 

[Jerome Silberman]

I’m looking at it from a LEO safety stand point. You want as much current intelligence as possible. That way unnecessary lose of life doesn’t occur be it LEO’s or the public.

Seems like a basic, don't f@ck up on the job when lives are in your hands logic.

 

[Jerome Silberman]

How hard would it have been to realize that the names on your warrant do not match ANY of the people within the house, and to NOT confiscate all their shit in the middle of the night?

Real hard if you don't give a sh!t.