Musical Student Athletes?? WTF??
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If golfers are athletes, marching tuba players are too.
You better watch yourself.
As much as I think it's stupid to consider the band "athletes" I have to say this isn't easy to argue with. Marching around with a Tuba is much more physically draining then golf or bowling (My alma mater actually has an NCAA sanctioned bowling team.) The best argument I have is that Marching bands might have like one competition a year and most of the time they are just performing for an audience. So maybe they are athletes for like one day when they are competing.
I don’t know much about band culture, but I once saw a movie where band nerds went to competitions and had lots of sex, so I’ll assume they are athletic.
I can't say I know band culture either, although I did know plenty of people in band in high school. I do know they have competitions, but the majority of their work is just performing for an audience.
That said from what I do know I really doubt they where having lots of sex.
My son did marching bad for two years and they practice many times more hours than any sport team. They started the last week in July and went 7 hours a day, 5 days a week for 4 weeks. Then when school started they practiced at 6:30 in the morning 4 days a week. They did conditioning and were on their feet the large majority of the time. They have to learn routines that take coordination and stamina. They had 8 competitions a year. I would put the "marching band" in the sport category. Would not put the "regular band" in that category.
Synchronized swimming is a sport. Image if they had to do with with a bass drum?
What about performances featuring rusty trombones? Athletic?
With all due respect, all of the grueling band practices in the world do not any more make band a "sport" than do long days roofing or laying sod make those activities a sport.
That is art not sport.Never seen a roofing crew do this...
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Because under title nine they would count against the balance of male vs female scholarships. Cheerleader are and have traditionaly been female. If this were to happen it would mean another sport for men could likely be maintained.
I get it a little. I could see many schools simply loading up their cheerleading squads and having them cheer for the men playing everything else. Especially when title nine first became the law of the land.
Cheerleaders and dance team members are MUCH more athletes than band members. The only exception I might make for band is the dancers/flags. Even those require less "athleticism" than the actual dance team.
This isn’t up to the NCAA, it’s up to the individual schools on whether or not they consider cheerleaders athletes. At Iowa, they do not, but places like Kentucky, UCF, etc., they are full ride scholarship athletes. They usually have 8-12 girls and 8-12 guys so it doesn’t impact the balance of scholarships.
What arguments would you present for the conclusion that baseball is not a sport?
The NCAA doesn't recognize cheerleading as a sport and does not govern or recognize it. The scholarships don't count one way or another when it comes to title nine
Are you trying to be difficult, or is it really this hard for you?
I do think it is a sport but have heard the argument before that some don't.
It seems whenever this type of argument is presented it is almost always related to a comparison to football.
No. These arguments have been used before. You are just applying them to marching band now.
Not sure why people would care if marching band is considered a sport.
The schools that offer cheerleading scholarships do so in a manner similar to academic or activity scholarships (such as band, science, a particular major, etc). Balance won't throw anything off (Title IX requirements) because it's not recognized by the NCAA as a sport.
Yes they do. The scholarships have no impact because they always have the same amount of guys and girls. A representative of the NCAA hands out a trophy every January at WDW to the winner of the national championship.
Someone made the claim that marching band is a sport. That claim is being discussed. I do not consider marching band to be a sport any more than ballet or some other physically demanding form of art.
