You must not know what irony means.The irony is just too much.
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You must not know what irony means.The irony is just too much.
lol. I swear that too. It must be little spats that we probably give too much credence to. Weird how we often let the extremes push us towards disagreements when we should work towards those things we have in common.
In addition, I’ve been here for over 20 years. 2001 I was a pretty staunch Republican. I a much better man, father, husband and overall human than I was in my 20’s and 30’s.
I agree. I challenged Chis once to name 1 thing Trump did well and he couldn't do it. I am amazed @Tom Paris liked my post. Maybe me and him have more similarities than we realize. Need more threads like this one honestly. Filter out the Trump vs Biden and get more topic based discussion.I think some of our far left leaners have the OP on ignore...I'd be curious to see their responses.
Way to completely fail the thread, ya bum.repubber now, I can name a ton of things I agreed with the dems in the 60's and maybe 70's. somehow they flipped to communism in the 90's or 2000's. cannot agree with that. I wonder if I researched it, if clinton had something to do with that?? for sure obama did.
You're a Republican? Fvck off!!!I am republican
I support abortion up to 20ish weeks, but I would ban late term abortions unless it was necessary for the health of the mother or the baby was found to have severe medical conditions.
I support unions in the workplace.
Let's see where we can agree.
You are a Democrat For Sure!Technically I’m still a registered Republican, just haven’t made the effort to change to Independent. I’ve mention this before, but for 20 years or so, I was a die hard R, listened to Rush daily.
I am a proud supporter of LGBTQ and their rights. Where I start to lean R is when it’s about kids transitioning, biological boys/men competing against girls/women in sports.
I’m pro marijuana legalization.
I’m for much stricter gun laws and regulations. I’m probably more extreme on this issue than most Dems. I actually hate guns. I’m also in favor of more prisons and much harsher penalties for possessing or using illegal weapons and for gun crimes.
I am pro choice.
I believe that climate change is real.
I’m in favor of term limits.
I’m pro public education. We should be investing more money in our public schools and less money overseas. I’m talking a lot more money. I also believe our teachers are extremely underpaid.
I support this as well.. It is sickening how many politicians who make a modest yearly salary are worth millions. And no if you say "BuT bUtTeRs ThEy Do PuBlic SpEeChEs FoR mOnEy" you can GFY.
I think it's something like 10 out of the 12 richest counties are in the DC/Virginia areaI support this as well.
I think we need to curb the political campaign contributions and lobbying by corporations, non-profits, or large private donors. I don't think anything good has come from this.
The top 1% have more money than the entire middle class. This is too much power when they are allowed to buy any influence they want.
Same. I was a registered Republican when this board began. October 2001 when I joined.lol. I swear that too. It must be little spats that we probably give too much credence to. Weird how we often let the extremes push us towards disagreements when we should work towards those things we have in common.
In addition, I’ve been here for over 20 years. 2001 I was a pretty staunch Republican. I a much better man, father, husband and overall human than I was in my 20’s and 30’s.
I agreed with basically everything you said. My issues right now that get me the most fired up are the constant attacks on education, Roe being overturned, and until Republicans do something to convince me otherwise, since Trump has gained power over the party, I am 100% convinced they are ok with American Democracy ending.I agree. I challenged Chis once to name 1 thing Trump did well and he couldn't do it. I am amazed @Tom Paris liked my post. Maybe me and him have more similarities than we realize. Need more threads like this one honestly. Filter out the Trump vs Biden and get more topic based discussion.
I'll bite. Here's my "1 thing Trump did well."I agree. I challenged Chis once to name 1 thing Trump did well and he couldn't do it. I am amazed @Tom Paris liked my post. Maybe me and him have more similarities than we realize. Need more threads like this one honestly. Filter out the Trump vs Biden and get more topic based discussion.
I could find several things Trump is right about. The problem is the man is incapable of developing a long term strategy that effectively addresses those issues. China, slap some tariffs on them. Problem solved. The border, build a wall and deport everyone. Problem solved.I agree. I challenged Chis once to name 1 thing Trump did well and he couldn't do it. I am amazed @Tom Paris liked my post. Maybe me and him have more similarities than we realize. Need more threads like this one honestly. Filter out the Trump vs Biden and get more topic based discussion.
I want a stronger, more secure border.You are a Democrat For Sure!
I agree with all of thisI want a stronger, more secure border.
I want more money for law enforcement.
I want violent criminals locked up. More prisons for violent criminals.
I want smaller govt and less taxes, especially for those earning between $94k and $500k. The jump from 12% to 22% for married couples is too steep of an increase.
I don’t believe all white people are racist. I don’t believe in reparations. I don’t think we should have to pay for the sins of our ancestors.
While I believe that those who are trans should have equal rights. I don’t believe in changing a persons gender or starting the process before they are 18.
I am not a huge proponent of our welfare system. I believe all able body/mind adults should work and attempt to support themselves without help from the government.
I think the move to green energy should be less aggressive and isn’t the disaster the left thinks it is.
So, that’s why I’m not a Democrat.
Agree and I was happy that he took out that Iranian terrorist leader.I'll bite. Here's my "1 thing Trump did well."
In 2016, the FDA approved 73 new generic medications. That figure rose year by year through the Trump administration, reaching 107 in 2019. That same year, Congress passed new legislation that will bring more generics to market even faster in the future. The Creates Act will allow generic drug makers to sue drug developers that withhold information needed to manufacture generics in a timely manner.
Both parties ignore the real border issue. It’s the hiring of undocumented by businesses and individuals. E Verify only catches 1 in 6 illegal immigrants in places that use it. Until the issue that is drawing the immigrants here is addressed. The border security attempts is little more than a band aid.I never saw myself as a Dem before Trump but I guess that makes me a commie nowadays.
But Dem immigration policies are basically non-existent. While Trump’s wall is an impractical idea, the Dems largely just choose to ignore the problem altogether.
Also, while I’m a pro-vaccine guy, I think the Covid vaccine mandates were a bit much. To me, it’s just natural selection in action (measles in Florida).
Yup. Obama started the effort, and Trump finished it. The campaign against ISIS in eastern Syria and northern Iraq began in August 2014, resulting in a bunch of victories by 2016. ISIS lost its last oil field and stronghold in Mosul by October 2016. Trump sustained the effort through 2018, culminating in the successful raid that killed ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.Agree and I was happy that he took out that Iranian terrorist leader.
Far be it from me to tell someone what to do, but you post like someone that loathes every single thing “Republican/Conservative” with every fiber of your being, in nearly every thread possible.Agree and I was happy that he took out that Iranian terrorist leader.
Elon Musk is currently being sued by the federal government for not hiring illegals/newcomers/whatever to work at SpaceXBoth parties ignore the real border issue. It’s the hiring of undocumented by businesses and individuals. E Verify only catches 1 in 6 illegal immigrants in places that use it. Until the issue that is drawing the immigrants here is addressed. The border security attempts is little more than a band aid.
Oh sabby, see, we're becoming friends!!This has been a really great thread to read, thanks everyone for being honest about their opinions. You know something like this should be taken to heart. I can't say Sharky and I always agree on everything, and generally I thought he was a dupe. Sorry Sharky. But we've actually had very good conversations about the 99% of other things in life that aren't political, and we've struck up a very good relationship. I don't always agree with what he says, but I enjoy discussions with him and hearing what he likes and doesn't like. I wish everybody on here could do more of that, me included. I tend to get a little sarcastic and antagonistic, and I'd be better off not doing that. Anyway this is a good thread nice to see what everybody believes in. Me, I'd say I'm fiscally conservative and socially liberal leaning. I believe in a strong military, a woman's right to choose, some form of gun control, a more secure border than we have now, climate change is a real thing, politicians at least most of them are in it for themselves. Term limits.
Are you missing the point of the thread?Far be it from me to tell someone what to do, but you post like someone that loathes every single thing “Republican/Conservative” with every fiber of your being, in nearly every thread possible.
Not at all.Are you missing the point of the thread?
In post 52 I mentioned the things that I am the most passionate about. There is NO common ground for me on those. Not to mention, look how often those things are discussed on this board - daily. Weekly. A lot. When there are posts about investing, I don't argue. I don't argue in the Israel-Hamas discussions. When the border is discussed I am a both sides guy. Same as when the Middle East is discussed. Movies. I don't argue much on the football/basketball boards.Not at all.
If someone is admitting that they agree with certain aspects of the opposite party, then it begs the question; “Why don’t you act like you seek common ground and worthwhile discourse in other threads?”
Careful. All your MAGA friends might not like what you’re doingAs a left leaning independent (by early 2000s standards) I think the right is correct on:
1. Wanting to enforce the law, harsher sentencing on violent/repeat criminals including capital punishment
2. Wanting to generally reduce the size of the federal government (maga position)
3. Stricter enforcement of border policies
4. Ripping out DEI root and stem from all institutions
5. Not thinking joe biden is fit for office
As an alleged far right maga extremist by today's standards I think the left is correct on:
1. Pro-choice position on abortion, up to a certain point. For me that is 15ish weeks but that number is debatable. No late term abortions unless there is serious health risk to the mother.
2. Gay marriage but I think most everybody actually is fine with this now
3. Climate good. "Green new deal" policy is actually awful.
4. Donald trump shouldn't be anywhere near politics