NCAA Decision Making Process is Flawed

[OutbackBowl2017]

I just don’t get their decision making process when it comes to denying often injured players a 5th year like Drew Ott that had two seasons end early yet give a 6th season to a player that has transferred three times, only saw action due to the starter testing positive for dope. On top of that, the back up was bypassed for the third or fourth string guy.......

ISU Football Player Granted 6th Season of Eligibility by NCAA http://via.whotv.com/KbiWB

 

[01Hawk05]

Someone in the Iowa Athletic Dept needs to get some pull with the NCAA cause we obviously have none.

 

[David1979]

The difference is in the letter of the law. By the wording of the rule for getting an extra year due to injury, ott didn't qualify.
THe NCAA for some reason, made it so that if you can show you transferred due to change in a system that does not fit you, you can get an extra year. Kempt basically had to say that Oregon state told him he didnt' fit the system so it forced him to transfer and miss a year of eligibility. However, none of this would have even come to pass if Park hadn't f'd up.

 

[ketelmeister]

The difference is in the letter of the law. By the wording of the rule for getting an extra year due to injury, ott didn't qualify.
THe NCAA for some reason, made it so that if you can show you transferred due to change in a system that does not fit you, you can get an extra year. Kempt basically had to say that Oregon state told him he didnt' fit the system so it forced him to transfer and miss a year of eligibility. However, none of this would have even come to pass if Park hadn't f'd up.

Turned out good for Iowa State, that's for sure.

 

[cyclone59]

**** Kempf

That's the sport.

 

[bojihawk44]

This isn't bad news. He's not very good.

 

[AlanAldaClone]

This isn't bad news. He's not very good.

How do you figure? He broke the school record for completion percentage last year at 66 percent. He doesn't have a very strong arm, like Park, or even Zeb Noland, but he's very accurate. Plus, despite the weaker arm, they still had a pretty darned good vertical passing game with him behind center

 

[Lone Clone]

I just don’t get their decision making process when it comes to denying often injured players a 5th year like Drew Ott that had two seasons end early yet give a 6th season to a player that has transferred three times, only saw action due to the starter testing positive for dope. On top of that, the back up was bypassed for the third or fourth string guy.......

ISU Football Player Granted 6th Season of Eligibility by NCAA http://via.whotv.com/KbiWB

Says the fan of a team where Jeff Settles played....and played.....and played....and played....and played..............

 

[mvhomerj]

Loved that chant... grampa Settles!

 

[HawkOptimist]

Park worried me a lot more than Kempf does. He's not a horrible QB, but nothing special either. A lot of times news like this would piss me off, but in this case I really don't care.

 

[bojihawk44]

How do you figure? He broke the school record for completion percentage last year at 66 percent. He doesn't have a very strong arm, like Park, or even Zeb Noland, but he's very accurate. Plus, despite the weaker arm, they still had a pretty darned good vertical passing game with him behind center

He's an ok quarterback, but more a product of the system and a pretty damn good receiving corps, in my opinion.

 

[biggreydogs]

Who cares. We will win, burn Ames.

 

[StallmanCurse]

First, I don't give a rip about Kempf. Apparently he didn't hear ISU beat out BAMA for a QB, so he's obviously going to lose the starting job anyway.

Let's talk about the actual NCAA reasoning, that a coaching change could leave a player "no longer fitting in the system." How many positions does this policy apply to? QB obviously. 4-3 DE in a 3-4 system? 3-4 NT in a 4-3 system? Flex TE in a pro-style system? A WR that can block in a spread system?

Outside of QB, what positions will the NCAA actually grant this waiver for?

 

[Parker D]

He's an ok quarterback, but more a product of the system and a pretty damn good receiving corps, in my opinion.

...and Big 12 defenses.

 

[bojihawk44]

...and Big 12 defenses.

Haha, good call. Can't believe I left that out.

 

[LaQuintaHawkeye]

Someone in the Iowa Athletic Dept needs to get some pull with the NCAA cause we obviously have none.

 

[OutbackBowl2017]

Says the fan of a team where Jeff Settles played....and played.....and played....and played....and played..............

At least he was injured. Kempt getting another year because style of play not matching his is a stretch at best but that’s the NCAA decision making process.

 

[ICTrojans99]

Don't call him Grampa Kempf. Cytwins & 1976 might tell greasy face Campbell

 

[HawkinMN]

Says the fan of a team where Jeff Settles played....and played.....and played....and played....and played..............

I always thought Granville Waiters looked about 58.

 

[Pepperman]

He's an ok quarterback, but more a product of the system and a pretty damn good receiving corps, in my opinion.

Many of those WRs are coming back. Montgomery is back. The Cyclones are going to have a pretty good offense.

 

[iahawkeyes17]

Many of those WRs are coming back. Montgomery is back. The Cyclones are going to have a pretty good offense.

3 of their top 4 WRs stats wise graduated in Lazard, ryen and Murdock. Only butler returns who did much from last year and lose 2 OL and their best one in 4 yr starter in Campos. Like Iowa with wadley this year lot of teams will be stacking the box vs isu next year.

 

[Pepperman]

3 of their top 4 WRs stats wise graduated in Lazard, ryen and Murdock. Only butler returns who did much from last year and lose 2 OL and their best one in 4 yr starter in Campos. Like Iowa with wadley this year lot of teams will be stacking the box vs isu next year.

My mistake, I thought Murdock was back as well as Butler. I know they have a very good WR recruit coming in.

Well, regardless, I'm not here to praise ISU, but I do love Montgomery and I happen to think Butler is a stud. We'll see how it all comes together without Lazard and if they can plug the OL with new guys. I think they have a very good coach though, so my guess is they'll do it and perhaps be even better in 2018.

 

[hawkfeever]

Turned out good for Iowa State, that's for sure.

Just puts off development of next QB by one year. It is good for them for 2018, but how about for 2019?

 

[hawkfeever]

Don't call him Grampa Kempf. Cytwins & 1976 might tell greasy face Campbell

You suppose Coach has someone pre-roll the bills of his ball caps or he does that himself?

 

[AlanAldaClone]

3 of their top 4 WRs stats wise graduated in Lazard, ryen and Murdock. Only butler returns who did much from last year and lose 2 OL and their best one in 4 yr starter in Campos. Like Iowa with wadley this year lot of teams will be stacking the box vs isu next year.

WR was the deepest position at ISU last year, so deep, they were able to redshirt two very good freshmen who the coaches are high on. So deep that a guy who started as a true freshman was relegated to third team last year. In addition to Butler, they return Deshaunte Jones, who played extensively as a true freshman and sophomore and showed a burst from the slot position, Matt Eaton, who at 6-4, 210 was one of their most physical and clutch performers and who may be their best returning receiver (despite Butler also being back), Carson Epps, who started as a true freshman under Rhodes, but saw limited action last year as a junior, Landon Akers, who was the KO return man last year, and Jalen Martin, a tall, rangy receiver who looked very good in the limited action he saw last year as a redshirt freshman. More on Eaton, who never dropped a ball last year and made some very difficult catches in traffic. He was fourth on the team in TD receptions with 4 despite playing a limited role on the second team (behind Lazard). He also is a deep threat, maybe the fastest of the taller receivers. When you add the two freshmen who redshirted and four highly rated freshmen who had multiple P5 offers from pass-happy teams, including a 4-star, I don't think ISU is any danger of dropping off at WR.