So, McCollum also has a couple of basketball-playing teenage sons. Are we going to have another nepotism situation the next couple of years? I don’t think his oldest son is a very highly rated prospect.
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God I hope not, but if so I hope it's a McDermott situation and not a McCaffery one.
It would sure be a refreshing change if they went to a school that was a match for their abilities and thrived under a coach who was not their father. But I have no concern about that at the moment. I'm still enjoying Iowa getting the guy they did.
I'm sure the BF and CM & PM situations are coloring my thoughts on this subject, but ........
The NCAA should have an anti-nepotism rule that prevents children being able to play or coach on/for their parent's team.
Being an NCAA-level coach, the parent can afford to put the kid through college if they aren't talented enough to earn a scholarship at the school of their choice. And let them earn their coaching chops somewhere else besides being pampered and coddled by daddy or mommy.
The NCAA should have an anti-nepotism rule that prevents children being able to play or coach on/for their parent's team.
Being an NCAA-level coach, the parent can afford to put the kid through college if they aren't talented enough to earn a scholarship at the school of their choice. And let them earn their coaching chops somewhere else besides being pampered and coddled by daddy or mommy.
Like BMac himself, I don't think his boys will be cut-out for B1G basketball. However, if he actually does bring one of his boys on board, my trust in BMac's handling of the situation is light-years ahead of my trust in his predecessors.
Brian and James ferrntz were very solid players for Iowa.
Mason Woods is a good recruit for Iowa.
This would be #168 on list of issues for NCAA.
Mason Woods is a good recruit for Iowa.
This would be #168 on list of issues for NCAA.
In Mccafferys defense, all of his sons were legitimate D1 prospects. For all the noise, Connor had a solid career and was a great glue guy despite his lack of production. Patrick, on the other hand, probably didn’t belong in Power 5 but probably would have fared better if he wasn’t playing for his dad, and his youngest is literally the #1 prospect in Iowa right now.
Maybe for the football & basketball coaches. But not the lower level non revenue coaches. My brother was a high level D1 coach of a non revenue sport & had his son on his team for a couple of years. Would have needed massive loans if he wouldn't have received a partial scholly. He made much less than $100K per year at a school where tuition was over $50K per year. Wasn't a nepotism situation so much because his kid had to beat our teammates with a better score/time in his events to compete.
If you have a non nepotism coach clause it would need to be over all sports. Not just basketball & football.
CMAC was about the same level of talent as Kingsbury. Only difference was he had Fran's complete trust. CMAC Basketball career ended as soon as he got out of Iowa---anyone with talent plays overseas, CMAC went directly into coaching.
NO CMAC wouldn't have played the minutes he did if his father wasn't coach. CMAC started over Keegan every game of Keegan's Freshman year. , . There were many,many minutes of both CMAC and PMAC playing together. Fran had a rule regarding his two boys, Always one playing, sometimes both playing together, almost never both on bench---that only occurred in a blowout
Keegan and Kris being on the court together only happended a few minutes total in there careers. When Fran recruited them, he said Keegan would play the 4, and Kris the 3.....that never happened because PMAC was playing the 3. Kris sat on bench Freshman year because if he'd played, he'd of taken PT away from PMAC and CMAC.
Anyway the way to prevent Nepotism is don't put your boys on the team and give them preferential treatment. Fran got fired and partly because he spent a few years maximizing McCaffery Family time instead of doing his job and recruiting/playing the best lineups possible. He had a chance to recruit over CMAC and PMAC and he didn't.
Maybe with Fran out of the way the youngest McCaffrey will switch to Iowa 
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BM strikes me as the kind of guy that would only put his actual kids in positions they could achieve in. Either by not playing for him or in playing minutes they actually earn or deserve. Could be wrong of course but his press conference today really showed me he's all business when it comes to basketball and he's been uber successful as a result.
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I agree with all of your points except saying CMAC was same talent as Kingsbury. That seems unfair. He did not live up to his hs ranking but was tough as nails, an outstanding passer and turned into an adequate 3 point shooter. I will concede that Kingsbury was never going to get the same opportunity.
Ahhh. Opinions masquerading as facts. Heck even Kenyon said otherwise.
I don't know. I saw value in CMAC honestly. He provided some grit and was a strong ball handler. He wasn't great but I felt he was a decent to good D-1 player often by his Senior year. PMAC had some strong moments but I honestly felt he was a head case internally and considering what he went through, it's understandable. I think that's what limited him at times. No, they weren't the greatest players by any means but we had some really high points with them playing. With that said, yes, they were probably more appropriately placed in line with playing time for a decent mid-major university for the majority of their careers but by no means were they terrible pickups for us.
Never, Never happen. As I posted one time there were 65 such "nepotism" cases just in P5 football, ad its probably triple that in basketball. It works out fine for some, and not others. frankly Kirks sons were good players, just never should have made Brian OC....
What complete garbage!
There was no nepotism with Fran at Iowa.
Fans should be ashamed how they treated that situation
Connor's career was so solid, he played ahead of Kris and Keegan.
I wouldn’t put CMac in that category. He gave his heart to the Hawkeyes and played hard. So wrong to put him in lil Lick category.
You mean are fans going to be as unhinged over kids playing for their parent?
Lil Lick only played due to injuries iirc. Cmac not only played over better players, he also affected recruiting b/c fran wouldn't recruit his position. He should've been a back of the bench sub at most. There's a reason he didn't have any options to play for pay after college.
Yea. But Brian Ferentz was a middle school football level offensive coordinator. Flag football, not tackle.
First of all, not overly worried about this. Second of all, I'd hope coach Ben would give a long thought to the pros and cons of using his position to give roster spots to his kids if they aren't objectively big ten talent. The fans don't have much patience for those shenanigans
Saying CMac turned into an adequate 3 point shooter is like saying saying Brian Ferentz was an adequate offensive coordinator. The guy shot 27%, 33% and 33% from three his last three seasons.
Somehow I doubt we would be having this discussion if Devries had been our hire.
No one does less thinking than people who use the word “clone” on a regular basis, as in every skinny white forward with some size is an “Aaron White clone” or every Black wing with some shooting ability is a “Peter Jok clone.”
Some of you guys are unhinged when it comes to the nepotism accusations. It's not as big of an issue as people make it out to be. There are plenty of examples where fanbases benefit from a coach who has an extremely talented son. Even the "bad" examples are very much up for debate.
That’s a good point and there a couple people on here that doesn’t register with. They point to Brock Harding and compare his numbers to Bohannon. I’ll just say Harding (and CMac) get a lot more wide open threes than a guy high on the scouting report like Bohannon or Payton Sandfort.
