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New film to focus on black on black violence in Chicago

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I'll bet you a week's salary it's blamed on Republicans.
Hopefully it gives some blame to the elder Daley for his policies. But, I think it'll be introspective. If Rahm Emanuel is against the movie you should be for it's release.
 
Let's wait and see where he places the blame.
Yeah, no jobs opportunities, no recreational opportunities available, their teachers failed them, they were never given a chance in society due to their race, lack of resources available to help them cope with the various life struggles..........
 
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I've seen few mentions in the press lately about a film Spike Lee is currently working on, largely filmed in Chicago, that will focus on inner city violence.
2 people on HROT will see it, yet multiple posters will again claim that nobody is talking about black on black violence.
http://time.com/3859696/spike-lee-chiraq-chicago-violence-film/
I wonder if you would have posted this had it not been for people calling your types out?
 
I'm sure it will be pretty good. After all, Spike is fully aware the KKK originated in Indiana. His research in to racial issues is top notch and he's very fair.
 
Hopefully it gives some blame to the elder Daley for his policies. But, I think it'll be introspective. If Rahm Emanuel is against the movie you should be for it's release.
Emanuel is probably against any film that brings attention to the issue in Chicago no matter who the film blames.
 
I bet Nissan isn't the sponsor. In fact, Madison Ave is probably going to try and just ignore it.
 
I've seen few mentions in the press lately about a film Spike Lee is currently working on, largely filmed in Chicago, that will focus on inner city violence.
2 people on HROT will see it, yet multiple posters will again claim that nobody is talking about black on black violence.
http://time.com/3859696/spike-lee-chiraq-chicago-violence-film/
Will the film get a general release or just in art-house theaters?

I'd have to think race-baiters like Al, Jesse and BHO would be dead-set against this film. It doesn't help their narrative.

How will this film differ from "Boyz in the Hood"?
 
Will the film get a general release or just in art-house theaters?

I'd have to think race-baiters like Al, Jesse and BHO would be dead-set against this film. It doesn't help their narrative.

How will this film differ from "Boyz in the Hood"?

Never one to miss an opportunity to turn a tragedy into political points, amirite?
 
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Emanuel is probably against any film that brings attention to the issue in Chicago no matter who the film blames.

Nonsense. Rahm hasn't shied away from the violence in Chicago. He just takes a different view on causes/solutions than some others do.

Based on this thread, and the views espoused by some people in here, I don't blame him.
 
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Yeah, no jobs opportunities, no recreational opportunities available, their teachers failed them, they were never given a chance in society due to their race, lack of resources available to help them cope with the various life struggles..........

Why do you feel it necessary to attempt to diminish the struggle that inner-city people face? Does it make you feel good to know you had infinitely more advantages and opportunities growing up than they did?
 
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Hopefully it gives some blame to the elder Daley for his policies. But, I think it'll be introspective. If Rahm Emanuel is against the movie you should be for it's release.

I think he's only against the name?

You know who I'm against? Chief Keef. I'd change my stance on the death penalty for him.
 
I just hope his message is empowering.

The black community is all too often patronized instead.

Matter of perspective on what is patronizing vs. what is empowering.

Certainly you can admit that as a white man who (presumably) didn't grow up in an inner-city (let alone the south or west sides of Chicago) that how you view things that you label "patronizing" differs dramatically from those who did grow up under those circumstances?
 
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I've seen few mentions in the press lately about a film Spike Lee is currently working on, largely filmed in Chicago, that will focus on inner city violence.
2 people on HROT will see it, yet multiple posters will again claim that nobody is talking about black on black violence.
http://time.com/3859696/spike-lee-chiraq-chicago-violence-film/
So you have seen "few mentions" of it and expect the world to see it?

Glad to see prominent blacks speak to it - now lets see how it is played out.
 
Matter of perspective on what is patronizing vs. what is empowering.

Certainly you can admit that as a white man who (presumably) didn't grow up in an inner-city (let alone the south or west sides of Chicago) that how you view things that you label "patronizing" differs dramatically from those who did grow up under those circumstances?

Patronizing is when you point out all of the things that oppress them.(disable them with tragedy)

Empowering is when you point out all of the things they can do about it.(help them seize opportunity)

The black community tends to draw the crowd that benefits from patronizing them.
 
Nonsense. Rahm hasn't shied away from the violence in Chicago. He just takes a different view on causes/solutions than some others do.

Based on this thread, and the views espoused by some people in here, I don't blame him.
Does not sound like Spike Lee agrees with you.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...llied-him-over-film-about-citys-gun-violence/

In an interview with Chicago magazine, director Spike Lee described Chicago Mayor and former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel as a “bully” over the mayor’s alleged attempts to censor an upcoming film about Chicago’s gun violence and black-on-black crime.
Lee began filming Chi-Raq in June and says he immediately met resistance from Emanuel, who left the Obama White House in 2010 to seek the mayoral office in President Obama’s hometown.

According to Lee, Emanuel went to great lengths to make production of the film difficult, particularly over the film’s title.

Chi-raq is a term that was originally given to the city by local rappers, who have compared Chicago’s violent crime to violence in Iraq.

After being “summoned” by the mayor to City Hall in April during pre-production, Lee tells Chicago magazine he and Emanuel “got off on the wrong foot,” as the mayor attempted to portray him as a villain for bringing some of the city’s biggest problems to light.

“I’m not the bad guy, but that’s how he was trying to portray it. Do I have the guns? Am I the one pulling the trigger? To be honest, he’s a bully,” said Lee.

“He’s not gonna bully me. My tactic with the mayor—any bully—is to come out swinging,” the director added. “I said, “Mayor, Your Honor, you’re gonna be on the wrong side of history.”

Lee said during the film’s production, from June 1 to July 9, 331 were wounded by gunfire, 65 of them were killed.

“New York City has three times the population of Chicago; Chicago has more homicides than New York City,” he said of Chicago, which boasts some of the most stringent gun control laws in the country.

“[Rahm’s] whole thing was, the title is going to hurt tourism, the title is going to hurt economic development. But what tourism is he talking about?” said Lee, citing the city’s bustling tourism, while also highlighting economic disparities in Chicago’s gang-ridden neighborhoods.

Spike Lee says Emanuel “doesn’t want [the film and its subject matter] to go worldwide because it’s on his watch,” and “it’s gonna give Chicago a bad image.”

“It is a fact that Chicago is the most segregated big city in America. That’s not Spike Lee saying that. That’s a fact,” Lee said.

He and the film reportedly were met with threats by city aldermen to block standard tax breaks if the title of the movie was not changed. One of the alderman allegedly withheld city permits for an event connected to the movie, but later backed off.

When he was asked by the mag if he felt Rahm Emanuel was behind efforts to have him shut down, he answered, “A lot of stuff he might not have done directly, but I see his fingerprints.”

Lee describes the mayor and others as “bullies” and “bootlickers,” but he said they did not inhibit his resolve to tell the story and that Chicago’s citizens were happy to have him tell it.

“Everywhere I went—North Side, West Side, South Side, black people, white people—I got nothing but love our entire time here. Love,” says Lee.

Chi-Raq is described as a “modern day adaptation of the ancient Greek playLysistrata by Aristophanes, set against the backdrop of gang violence in Chicago.” It stars Nick Cannon, Teyonah Parris, Wesley Snipes, and Samuel L. Jackson.

The film will debut in December.

To read Spike Lee’s Chicago magazine interview in full, click here.

As of Saturday, Oct. 24, 2,483 people have been shot, 373 of them killed, in Chicago in 2015.

Two people were killed and at least eight more were wounded in shootingsacross the city from Friday afternoon to Saturday morning.
 
Why do you feel it necessary to attempt to diminish the struggle that inner-city people face? Does it make you feel good to know you had infinitely more advantages and opportunities growing up than they did?


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Patronizing is when you point out all of the things that oppress them.(disable them with tragedy)

Empowering is when you point out all of the things they can do about it.(help them seize opportunity)

The black community tends to draw the crowd that benefits from patronizing them.

If you do only the latter while pretending the former doesn't exist, you're worse than patronizing, which was my point.
 
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Does not sound like Spike Lee agrees with you.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...llied-him-over-film-about-citys-gun-violence/

In an interview with Chicago magazine, director Spike Lee described Chicago Mayor and former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel as a “bully” over the mayor’s alleged attempts to censor an upcoming film about Chicago’s gun violence and black-on-black crime.
Lee began filming Chi-Raq in June and says he immediately met resistance from Emanuel, who left the Obama White House in 2010 to seek the mayoral office in President Obama’s hometown.

According to Lee, Emanuel went to great lengths to make production of the film difficult, particularly over the film’s title.

Chi-raq is a term that was originally given to the city by local rappers, who have compared Chicago’s violent crime to violence in Iraq.

After being “summoned” by the mayor to City Hall in April during pre-production, Lee tells Chicago magazine he and Emanuel “got off on the wrong foot,” as the mayor attempted to portray him as a villain for bringing some of the city’s biggest problems to light.

“I’m not the bad guy, but that’s how he was trying to portray it. Do I have the guns? Am I the one pulling the trigger? To be honest, he’s a bully,” said Lee.

“He’s not gonna bully me. My tactic with the mayor—any bully—is to come out swinging,” the director added. “I said, “Mayor, Your Honor, you’re gonna be on the wrong side of history.”

Lee said during the film’s production, from June 1 to July 9, 331 were wounded by gunfire, 65 of them were killed.

“New York City has three times the population of Chicago; Chicago has more homicides than New York City,” he said of Chicago, which boasts some of the most stringent gun control laws in the country.

“[Rahm’s] whole thing was, the title is going to hurt tourism, the title is going to hurt economic development. But what tourism is he talking about?” said Lee, citing the city’s bustling tourism, while also highlighting economic disparities in Chicago’s gang-ridden neighborhoods.

Spike Lee says Emanuel “doesn’t want [the film and its subject matter] to go worldwide because it’s on his watch,” and “it’s gonna give Chicago a bad image.”

“It is a fact that Chicago is the most segregated big city in America. That’s not Spike Lee saying that. That’s a fact,” Lee said.

He and the film reportedly were met with threats by city aldermen to block standard tax breaks if the title of the movie was not changed. One of the alderman allegedly withheld city permits for an event connected to the movie, but later backed off.

When he was asked by the mag if he felt Rahm Emanuel was behind efforts to have him shut down, he answered, “A lot of stuff he might not have done directly, but I see his fingerprints.”

Lee describes the mayor and others as “bullies” and “bootlickers,” but he said they did not inhibit his resolve to tell the story and that Chicago’s citizens were happy to have him tell it.

“Everywhere I went—North Side, West Side, South Side, black people, white people—I got nothing but love our entire time here. Love,” says Lee.

Chi-Raq is described as a “modern day adaptation of the ancient Greek playLysistrata by Aristophanes, set against the backdrop of gang violence in Chicago.” It stars Nick Cannon, Teyonah Parris, Wesley Snipes, and Samuel L. Jackson.

The film will debut in December.

To read Spike Lee’s Chicago magazine interview in full, click here.

As of Saturday, Oct. 24, 2,483 people have been shot, 373 of them killed, in Chicago in 2015.

Two people were killed and at least eight more were wounded in shootingsacross the city from Friday afternoon to Saturday morning.

That's interesting. I'm curious as to what Rahm's problem with the film is specifically. He has certainly not been one to hide away from Chicago violence.
 
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I've seen few mentions in the press lately about a film Spike Lee is currently working on, largely filmed in Chicago, that will focus on inner city violence.
2 people on HROT will see it, yet multiple posters will again claim that nobody is talking about black on black violence.
http://time.com/3859696/spike-lee-chiraq-chicago-violence-film/
This is the first time any one with any importance has said any thing about it. Even elected officials are asking him to shut up. And even trying to force him to stop by threading loss of money. Thanks for proving the point.
 
If you do only the latter while pretending the former doesn't exist, you're worse than patronizing, which was my point.

No.

The patronizing crowd doesn't often offer solutions. They just want everyone to feel sorry for whomever is being patronized.

You are claiming I am not empathetic. That is not correct.

You are trying to say that I should join you in patronizing the black community. I don't think they need anymore help like what you are giving.
 
No.

The patronizing crowd doesn't often offer solutions. They just want everyone to feel sorry for whomever is being patronized.

You are claiming I am not empathetic. That is not correct.

You are trying to say that I should join you in patronizing the black community. I don't think they need anymore help like what you are giving.

1. You're doing exactly what you claim I'm doing, with literally no knowledge of how I conduct my daily affairs. What help do you believe I'm giving? Like when I donate 5 hours of my week, every week, to bring 35 law students to an inner-city school to read to 3rd graders?

2. You're categorizing an entire crowd based on what you want to believe. I would venture to guess I interact more with that crowd than you, and I can tell you I have never met anyone who simply wants white people to feel sorry for black people.

3. You show me how you're empathetic. The first step to empowering is recognizing the wrongs and disadvantages that inner-city blacks face. If you can't acknowledge that those wrongs and disadvantages exist, you're simply lecturing them on how to be more like you, which is, as I said, worse than patronizing.
 
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Nonsense. Rahm hasn't shied away from the violence in Chicago. He just takes a different view on causes/solutions than some others do.

Based on this thread, and the views espoused by some people in here, I don't blame him.
And how's that working out?
Until the gangs are crushed and dismantled, nothing will fix the violence in the poor neighborhoods in chicago. They have no value whatsoever for human life and derail any small gains that get made in these neighborhoods.
 
And how's that working out?
Until the gangs are crushed and dismantled, nothing will fix the violence in the poor neighborhoods in chicago. They have no value whatsoever for human life and derail any small gains that get made in these neighborhoods.

Well, we've been trying to "crush and dismantle" gangs for a long long time, yet we can't. There are reasons behind that.

I don't know why you seem to have a perception that I think Rahm is doing a good job of this, or that I'm like pro-Rahm, or even that I think any differently than most about the Chicago violence problem. It's a massive problem, and it needs more attention. I'm happy Spike is making the movie. I'm just pointing out that Rahm hasn't seemed to be afraid to discuss the violence down there.

I would also say that there are ways to discuss this issue, and I would encourage and support many many more discussions. However, discussions that start off victim blaming or immediately attempt to minimize the struggles that people on the South Side face that you or I have never faced don't really go anywhere with me. It shows a complete lack of understanding and a lack of desire to understand.
 
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1. You're doing exactly what you claim I'm doing, with literally no knowledge of how I conduct my daily affairs. What help do you believe I'm giving? Like when I donate 5 hours of my week, every week, to bring 35 law students to an inner-city school to read to 3rd graders?

I've been a CASA volunteer for almost seven years.

But, I guess somebody's got to do the fluffy stuff. So thanks to you and your law students.
 
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