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New phone plans

Wahawk56

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this got me thinking. The idea of doing all of these new phone payment plans sounds pretty good, but they are all going to change when the next phone comes out and another carrier thinks of another plan. I mean first you had the two year contract, then the two year payment plan, now the one year payment plan, next I'm seeing the six month payment plan, then the 30 day payment plan, then going back to the two year agreement.
 
I have to stick with renewing my old school plan from AT&T (which they keep trying to get me to change) since I'm grandfathered into unlimited data.
 
I gave up unlimited data a year or so ago when I added wifi hot-spotting. This time, I just decided to buy my phone outright and live free of contracts. I took a hit this year on device price since I'm not reselling my device this year (will likely give it to a kid later this year), but looking ahead, I should be able to upgrade annually if I want for a reasonable price by selling my old device when I upgrade. I like the cheaper monthly price and I really like not being on a contract.
 
This is just crazy, they are charging like 700 dollars for the new iPhone. My old iPhone works just fine, but now found out that they are not going to allow it to get updates soon. So eventually I am sure it will die out and not be functional anymore.

Im seriously thinking of just going to best buy and buying a phone. Or going online and buying a new phone and take it in and have them set it up when the time comes.

I have a question, if you were on a 2 year contract and that expires, You no longer have a contract correct? Even if you go get a new phone, it is still just month to month?
 
First, the phones have always cost roughly the same amount, the carriers simply beefed up their calling plans to cover the subsidy they were giving on the device up front. If you're losing updates soon, are you on the 4 or 4S? That phone probably cost $600-700, but the carriers would have discounted and you probably bought for $200 with the other $400 roughly baked into your contract, probably adding roughly $20/month. You can certainly shop around, but your new iPhone will cost about the same whether you buy from Amazon, Apple, a carrier, Best Buy or whatever. If you're looking to save, look at buying a 6. It's one model older, but still has almost all the functionality of the 6s minus the 3D Touch/Force Touch.

But yes, unless you take a carrier subsidy, you're no longer going to be under a contract. If you use a carrier finance plan, you're sort of under a contract, but the carrier would be taking the up-front cost of the phone and spreading it directly across a defined period. You can still leave whenever you want, but instead of a "termination" fee, you'd just have to pay off what's left on the phone.

Also, think of it this way -- if you're still on a 4 or 4S, you've probably been paying your carrier that extra $20/month to cover the subsidy well beyond when you stopped upgrading your device. Now, even if you do the carrier finance plan, you'll take the price of the phone and divide it into payments with your carrier. Once you've made those payments, then your bill will drop by that finance amount because you'll own the phone outright.
 
Okay thanks Hawkifann

Yeah I have the 4, but the thing works so well. My wife got a 5c and its already crapping out on her, only had it 2 years. Ive had my 4 forever. dropped it and its been through everything and still works fine. The only thing is no updates for it.

I just hate that when/if we get new phones our phone bill will jump almost 60-80 dollars a month so instead of paying 130 we will be paying almost 200 dollars for cell phone service. Doesn't seem right, but I understand what your saying.

Do you think this will hurt sales and providers will go back to the old way of doing it?
 
Okay thanks Hawkifann

Yeah I have the 4, but the thing works so well. My wife got a 5c and its already crapping out on her, only had it 2 years. Ive had my 4 forever. dropped it and its been through everything and still works fine. The only thing is no updates for it.

I just hate that when/if we get new phones our phone bill will jump almost 60-80 dollars a month so instead of paying 130 we will be paying almost 200 dollars for cell phone service. Doesn't seem right, but I understand what your saying.

Do you think this will hurt sales and providers will go back to the old way of doing it?

I think they'll stick with this model. This model may actually be slightly less profitable for them, since they're no longer able to continue to basically charge all users for the phone subsidy, but it does make it a lot cleaner for the consumer.

I think you'd be happy if you jumped to a 5S or a 6. They are good phones. The 5C was Apple's jump into a low-end handset, so it has cheaper components and from what I've seen, that's been pretty well reflected in the results. I think they were at the market of people who basically wanted an iPhone, but also wanted a "free" phone via carrier subsidy and people got what they paid for. I don't know what you care about in terms of features, but the 5S gets you into a phone with the Touch ID, which is handy and the 6 gets you into ApplePay.
 
I think they'll stick with this model. This model may actually be slightly less profitable for them, since they're no longer able to continue to basically charge all users for the phone subsidy, but it does make it a lot cleaner for the consumer.

I think you'd be happy if you jumped to a 5S or a 6. They are good phones. The 5C was Apple's jump into a low-end handset, so it has cheaper components and from what I've seen, that's been pretty well reflected in the results. I think they were at the market of people who basically wanted an iPhone, but also wanted a "free" phone via carrier subsidy and people got what they paid for. I don't know what you care about in terms of features, but the 5S gets you into a phone with the Touch ID, which is handy and the 6 gets you into ApplePay.


Yeah the 5c has had some issues, she has dropped it like 3-4 times and the screen cracked every time. Her phone now shuts down when the battery life gets below 40 percent. So its on it way out. I was thinking of getting her a new phone (I'm riding mine until it dies or can't be used anymore). I just don't want to spend the 700 dollars for the new phones.

Ill keep my eyes out and if we have to go through a carrier then we have to. I just don't want to buy her a new phone and then mine crap out and were stuck paying then 60-80 dollars more.


Has anyone done the US cellular deal (cut your plan in half price). I thought I have seen this offered by other carriers as well. Do they really get the price down by half?
 
Use Verizon's "more everything" plan for example (stopped last month for the new Verizon plan):

You could pay the 2 year contract price for a phone, say $1, or even $200. BUT, your line access cost $40. Now they said that all lines cost $40.....BUT you could get a $25 discount if you were month/month.

So you were paying $25/month on top of that $1 or $200. That is an extra $600 over the life of the contract, likely well over the cost of your phone.

Even worse, you couldn't get the $25 discount unless you logged in online once you went month/month and actually turned it on. It was not automatic.

Ridiculous.

Now it appears they've moved to getting rid of the 2 year subsidized price and have $20/line regardless. You can buy it at full retail, or at retail/24 payments.

Simplifies the purchase, but SEEMS way worse.
 
Anyone else notice that ATT next upgrade plans have an additional 6 installments? Was looking at the fine print today and the 18 and 24 month upgrade cycles both have an additional 6 installments. So if you go 18 and get the new phone at month 18 you're paying double for 6 months?!?
 
RingPlus and Freedompop.

Free plans on midgrade smart phones for a pittance. Not for those who make a lot of calls and use a lot of data - although you can pay if you need more of those (as I do when I travel, for example).
 
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