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New Zealand All Blacks?

Nov 28, 2010
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Is that racist or what?

[from Wiki]

The Original All Blacks (also known simply as "The Originals") were the first New Zealand national rugby union team to tour outside Australasia. Overall they played a total of thirty-five matches, which included five Tests, and only lost once.

The 1905 All Blacks tour of Britain went on to achieve legendary status within the rugby world and New Zealand in particular. They scored 976 points and conceded only 59, and thus set the standard for all subsequent All Black sides. The tour also saw the first use of the All Blacks name and established New Zealand's reputation as a world class rugby nation.

The team departed New Zealand as the New Zealand Football Team, or, simply The New Zealanders, though names such as Maorilanders and Colonials were also applied. Reference to the team by the name "All Blacks" first appeared during the Originals tour when, according to Billy Wallace, a London newspaper reported that the New Zealanders played as if they were "all backs". Wallace claimed that due to a typographical error, subsequent references were to "All Blacks".

Wallace was the last of the Originals to pass away, so this explanation for the name's origins is widely believed. However, the Express and Echo in Devon, reporting after the Originals match there, referred to "The All Blacks, as they are styled by reason of their sable and unrelieved costume." The new name quickly became popular throughout Britain, though its acceptance into popular culture took a longer time back home in New Zealand. On 5 March when the team returned home, the Herald acclaimed the "New Zealand Footballers", however, the following day its report of the official function was headed "Return of the All Blacks".
 
Wow, I'm a big rugby fan and had no idea. I just always assumed it was because their uniforms are all black from head to toe.

Also, their soccer team is the "All-Whites" as are their uniforms. I personally think they should schedule an exhibition game at the University of Missouri and see how that goes down.
 
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Is that racist or what?

[from Wiki]

The Original All Blacks (also known simply as "The Originals") were the first New Zealand national rugby union team to tour outside Australasia. Overall they played a total of thirty-five matches, which included five Tests, and only lost once.

The 1905 All Blacks tour of Britain went on to achieve legendary status within the rugby world and New Zealand in particular. They scored 976 points and conceded only 59, and thus set the standard for all subsequent All Black sides. The tour also saw the first use of the All Blacks name and established New Zealand's reputation as a world class rugby nation.

The team departed New Zealand as the New Zealand Football Team, or, simply The New Zealanders, though names such as Maorilanders and Colonials were also applied. Reference to the team by the name "All Blacks" first appeared during the Originals tour when, according to Billy Wallace, a London newspaper reported that the New Zealanders played as if they were "all backs". Wallace claimed that due to a typographical error, subsequent references were to "All Blacks".

Wallace was the last of the Originals to pass away, so this explanation for the name's origins is widely believed. However, the Express and Echo in Devon, reporting after the Originals match there, referred to "The All Blacks, as they are styled by reason of their sable and unrelieved costume." The new name quickly became popular throughout Britain, though its acceptance into popular culture took a longer time back home in New Zealand. On 5 March when the team returned home, the Herald acclaimed the "New Zealand Footballers", however, the following day its report of the official function was headed "Return of the All Blacks".

Having studied in New Zealand, I was taken aback by the name and can attest that all native kiwis subscribe to the second explanation (sable and unrelieved costume) and that the team's always taken a "no-frills" approach to dominating the world. Not sure if its naive or revisionist on their part, but they claim no racism involved.

However they also aren't fond of Brits, so maybe reminding the limeys of their detestable racism is icing on the cake.
 
Having studied in New Zealand, I was taken aback by the name and can attest that all native kiwis subscribe to the second explanation (sable and unrelieved costume) and that the team's always taken a "no-frills" approach to dominating the world. Not sure if its naive or revisionist on their part, but they claim no racism involved.

However they also aren't fond of Brits, so maybe reminding the limeys of their detestable racism is icing on the cake.
Both explanations could easily be true. A mistake was made, and then rationalized as a reference to the uniforms. In fact that probably makes more sense. I mean we have teams with names that are a color or are abbreviated to a color. The Cincinnati Reds, for example. So you could maybe see someone calling them the Blacks based on uniform. But it's a little less likely that they would be called the All Blacks without a triggering event.

And besides, the Wallace story is more fun.
 
It means he is in denial of reality. The sad fact of the matter is that an undefeated Iowa does not control its own destiny and that's a shame. If a P5 team goes undefeated, they should be guaranteed a spot when there isn't four other undefeated teams. But as I have highlighted in a previous post, there is a real risk of getting left out if Clemson, Alabama, Baylor/Oklahoma State, and Stanford win out and it really pisses me off.

That looks like a real sport. Not like the pussy thing that passes for football here.

Not this year (they're in re-building mode) but did you know that Iowa has had one of the best rugby teams in the nation in recent years? Big Ten University Rugby Runners-Up in 7s and 15s two years ago, third in both last year but finished #17 in the Top 20 poll for 15s and #12 in 7s after a strong run at the national tournament. Here was my post in Hawkeye Sports Catch All this past September...

Replays are now off espn3 and up on YouTube. 7s matches only last 15 minutes so easy to watch the whole way through. Iowa's upset of Cal Poly in their opener is here from 2:44:00 - 3:02:25. The American color commentator is Paul Emerick, former USA World Cup try scorer from Emmetsburg, IA and UNI rugby.


Second game as we lose to top-seed Arizona State in the last second. Starts at 9:42:15...
 
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