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NIH cuts billions of dollars in biomedical funding, effective immediately

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The Trump administration is cutting billions of dollars in biomedical research funding, alarming academic leaders who said it would imperil their universities and medical centers and drawing swift rebukes from Democrats who predicted dire consequences for scientific research.

The move, announced Friday night by the National Institutes of Health, drastically cuts the NIH’s funding for “indirect” costs related to research. These are the administrative requirements, facilities and other operations that many scientists say are essential but some Republicans have argued are superfluous.

“The United States should have the best medical research in the world,” the NIH said in its announcement. “It is accordingly vital to ensure that as many funds as possible go towards direct scientific research costs rather than administrative overhead.”


In a post on social media, NIH said the change would save more than $4 billion a year, effective immediately. The note singled out Harvard University, Yale University and Johns Hopkins University’s multibillion-dollar endowments, implying that many universities do not need the added federal funding.

The policy, essentially a massive budget cut to science and medical centers across the country, was quickly denounced as devastating by universities and research organizations.
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Some scientists said the move could threaten research already underway and noted that their universities have a fraction of the endowments of schools such as Harvard and Yale. Industry leaders also questioned whether the move was legal.

“This is a surefire way to cripple lifesaving research and innovation,” Matt Owens, president of COGR, Council on Government Relations, an association of research institutions, academic medical centers and research institutes, wrote in an email.

The funding is “part and parcel of the total costs of conducting world class research,” Owens added. “We are carefully reviewing this policy change as it contradicts current law and policy. America’s competitors will relish this self-inflicted wound.”
Trump allies hailed the NIH’s move. The U.S. DOGE Service, the agency led by billionaire Elon Musk that has focused on slashing government spending, said NIH’s new policy would save billions of dollars in “excessive grant administrative costs.”

“Amazing job by NIH team,” DOGE posted on social media.
Republicans in recent years had weighed cutting federal funds for overhead costs at universities, with the first Trump administration abandoning a plan to do so amid pressure from biomedical leaders.
Democrats immediately castigated the Trump administration, saying the NIH’s move would imperil clinical research, patient care and laboratory operations, among other health care priorities.

“Just because Elon Musk doesn’t understand indirect costs doesn’t mean Americans should have to pay the price with their lives,” Sen. Patty Murray (D-Washington) said in a statement.
The NIH’s policy shift centers on how it awards grants to support scientific research on cancer, heart disease and diabetes. It also provides overhead funds to cover the costs of facilities, administration and other approved costs. That amount is a percentage of the original grant and varies by institutions but can represent more than half the grant.

In fiscal year 2023, out of $35 billion in awarded grants, $9 billion went to overhead, NIH said.

 
How many of those billions were wasted?
Probably a lot PF…. That is why the government “wastes” $$ in research… private entities won’t do the research because it is costly and They can’t afford it…the government has the resources ($$$) and can afford it. However privates use the successful research to profit themselves. In so many things, the government does the “heavy work” (research) and shares its results with others and allow them to reap the profits. Remember, government is a “non-profit” organization.
 
private entities won’t do the research because it is costly and They can’t afford it…the government has the resources ($$$) and can afford it.

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Did you just seriously say that after having a $2,000,000,000,000.00 deficit in 2024 alone?

What is wrong with you man?

We CANT afford it!
 
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Did you just seriously say that after having a $2,000,000,000,000.00 deficit in 2024 alone?

What is wrong with you man?

We CANT afford it!
We have to… and yes I said that!
This a fundamental obligation of government PF…. Right there with national defense…the government works for the good of us all….and public health certainly qualifies. Nothing is wrong with me, man… perhaps “the wrong ” lies with you?
 
We have to… and yes I said that!
This a fundamental obligation of government PF…. Right there with national defense…the government works for the good of us all….and public health certainly qualifies. Nothing is wrong with me, man… perhaps “the wrong ” lies with you?

Nowhere in the Constitution does it permit enriching the bureaucracy class in order to saddle the working class with ever higher debts under dubious pretenses.
 
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Nowhere in the Constitution does it permit enriching the bureaucracy class in order to saddle the working class with ever higher debts under dubious pretenses.
You are so full of shit PF… you get dumber and dumber shit dumber every fricken day..Maybe we need to start taxing the robber barons who control the wealth in this nation…is it 10% control 90% of the wealth… maybe this “10%” ought to pay…. 90% of the tax bill? ( I believe currently they pay about 50% of it)…Tax the people appropriately and many problems that exist today suddenly go away…
 
Nowhere in the Constitution does it permit enriching the bureaucracy class in order to saddle the working class with ever higher debts under dubious pretenses.
And no where in the Constitution does it permit the enriching of the well-to-do at the expense of the middle and lower economic classes with higher debts under DUBUOUS pretenses ( or economic theories).
 
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That'll prevent covid 2026 at least. Unfortunate that we didn't do this back in 2018 tbh we could have avoided a global pandemic
 
This will utterly destroy the US biomedical research effort. This goes to pay researchers and their employees, help purchase shared equipment, pay for unprofitable pilot studies that give base information to start future projects. etc. The republicans have undercut public universities year after year on a state level. Public institutions can't afford this hit. I know of two researchers that will likely have to close their labs. One works on new drug development for bladder cancer and has ongoing clinical trials.
 
I'm not a billionaire and my taxes were way better under trump than they were under sleepy joe and the democrats.
Scruffy….it ain’t all bout you! Even in today’s America..
$$ for public infrastructure does not grow on trees.
My Federal tax obligation has not changed much in the 33 years I have maintained tax records…it runs right at 10-11% effective rate annually…sure I pay more taxes now than in 2000 but I make more $$…. And the % over the years have stayed quite stable. Reagan had the right idea….Clinton made the system practical… Junior and Trump between them, blew it all to hell.
I think Iowa tax revenues and expenditures are going to be changing and not in a way that is beneficial to most Iowans…services will be curtailed I fear…and “services curtailed” often affect those who can afford the cuts the least. We shall see…. Watch out Mississippi! Watch out Arkansas…. Here comes Ioway!
 
This will utterly destroy the US biomedical research effort. This goes to pay researchers and their employees, help purchase shared equipment, pay for unprofitable pilot studies that give base information to start future projects. etc. The republicans have undercut public universities year after year on a state level. Public institutions can't afford this hit. I know of two researchers that will likely have to close their labs. One works on new drug development for bladder cancer and has ongoing clinical trials.
No it won't lol

Weren't you one of those people who claimed legislation was needed to fix the border crisis btw? You don't seem to be a good judge of reality tbh
 
This will utterly destroy the US biomedical research effort. This goes to pay researchers and their employees, help purchase shared equipment, pay for unprofitable pilot studies that give base information to start future projects. etc. The republicans have undercut public universities year after year on a state level. Public institutions can't afford this hit. I know of two researchers that will likely have to close their labs. One works on new drug development for bladder cancer and has ongoing clinical trials.
And it will “cost us” a lot more to $$ to catch-up when catching up becomes necessary.
 
This will utterly destroy the US biomedical research effort. This goes to pay researchers and their employees, help purchase shared equipment, pay for unprofitable pilot studies that give base information to start future projects. etc. The republicans have undercut public universities year after year on a state level. Public institutions can't afford this hit. I know of two researchers that will likely have to close their labs. One works on new drug development for bladder cancer and has ongoing clinical trials.
There is no rhyme or reason to Trumps defunding efforts. This is quite literally madness. The damage being done will take decades to recover, if ever.
 
Scruffy….it ain’t all bout you! Even in today’s America..
$$ for public infrastructure does not grow on trees.
My Federal tax obligation has not changed much in the 33 years I have maintained tax records…it runs right at 10-11% effective rate annually…sure I pay more taxes now than in 2000 but I make more $$…. And the % over the years have stayed quite stable. Reagan had the right idea….Clinton made the system practical… Junior and Trump between them, blew it all to hell.
I think Iowa tax revenues and expenditures are going to be changing and not in a way that is beneficial to most Iowans…services will be curtailed I fear…and “services curtailed” often affect those who can afford the cuts the least. We shall see…. Watch out Mississippi! Watch out Arkansas…. Here comes Ioway!
The government steals way too much money. Doesnt matter which color is in the white house but trump "gave me" more of my own money back than any other president in my lifetime and until we cut wasteful spending like wuhan virology labs that create global pandemics then they will continue to stral way too much.

The biblical Pharoah treated his subjects better than the us government does today. He "only" demanded 20% of the wealth/harvest from his subjects.
 
You are so full of shit PF… you get dumber and dumber shit dumber every fricken day..Maybe we need to start taxing the robber barons who control the wealth in this nation…is it 10% control 90% of the wealth… maybe this “10%” ought to pay…. 90% of the tax bill? ( I believe currently they pay about 50% of it)…Tax the people appropriately and many problems that exist today suddenly go away…

 
The government steals way too much money. Doesnt matter which color is in the white house but trump "gave me" more of my own money back than any other president in my lifetime and until we cut wasteful spending like wuhan virology labs that create global pandemics then they will continue to stral way too much.

The biblical Pharoah treated his subjects better than the us government does today. He "only" demanded 20% of the wealth/harvest from his subjects.
Maybe this government needs to “demand” 20% from its wealthiest 10%! Didn’t I read somewhere where Buffet pays about 12% effective rate? He even admits that is bullshit.
 
Maybe this government needs to “demand” 20% from its wealthiest 10%! Didn’t I read somewhere where Buffet pays about 12% effective rate? He even admits that is bullshit.
Joe biden didnt fix that? I'm shocked!
 
This will utterly destroy the US biomedical research effort. This goes to pay researchers and their employees, help purchase shared equipment, pay for unprofitable pilot studies that give base information to start future projects. etc. The republicans have undercut public universities year after year on a state level. Public institutions can't afford this hit. I know of two researchers that will likely have to close their labs. One works on new drug development for bladder cancer and has ongoing clinical trials.
One of the arguments for why health care in America is so expensive is because we do all the research. No doubt, now that we shut down government research funding, health care costs will decrease.
 
I was told the same thing about the border crisis actually. Weird how that wasn't the case at all.
Well it certainly is Congress’ job! EOs only do so much for so long..WTF up, buddyboy! Congress makes the laws!
I was told the same thing about the border crisis actually. Weird how that wasn't the case at all.
Do you believe it is “fixed” now? It isn’t…not until Congress figures something out and passes it…EOs are at best temporary fixes…Congress pass laws and makes more permanent changes.
 
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