Trump ending all research at the National Institute of Health

[BioHawk]

oh, it'll be temporary. probably beyond 2/1, but not long term. indeed, didn't trump just the other day make some weird reference to cancer vaccines as part of his ai announcement?

The thing about nih is, there are actual patients, physically on site, being treated using new and emerging technologies there. Many of them are among the most critically ill, if not the most hopelessly ill. They're not turning out the lights, pulling the plug, and dropping them off out in the middle of wisconsin avenue.

True, and I hope you are right, but letting those people die are well within the wheelhouse of this administration.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Shoot me. It always comes back to trans people somehow.

Dude you REALLY need to get past the phallic stage.


You are where you are in life because of choices you have made, not because of who you have and have not slept with.

 

[Huey Grey]

Some of those ships just stopped dead on a dime.

And it takes the courts to get the ship moving again. Guess who owns the courts?

 

[Aardvark86]

Some of those ships just stopped dead on a dime.

well, we'll see. maybe some rowboats.

 

[Aardvark86]

And it takes the courts to get the ship moving again. Guess who owns the courts?

No one does, whether the court is the First Circuit (which is about to get very busy), the Fifth Circuit (which is likely to get quieter), or the Supremes.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

well, we'll see. maybe some rowboats.

Your apparent need to minimize this is interesting. It seems you missed this one...

She [your sister] saying anything like this:

Several meetings of National Institutes of Health study sections, which review applications for fellowships and grants, were canceled without being rescheduled.

“Peer review via study sections is required by law in order for the NIH to disburse most of the $40 billion annual extramural budget,” said Norman E. Sharpless, a former director of the National Cancer Institute, part of the NIH. “If study sections and advisory council meetings are postponed for more than even a brief period, this will likely lead to interruptions in grant funding, which is bad for U.S. biomedical research.”

Scientific updates in the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, for example, are also subject to the pause. Three new reports on the H5N1 bird flu outbreaks in dairy cows and poultry were to be published this week; now it is unclear when they will be released, a CDC official who spoke on condition of anonymity told STAT. One of the reports was the result of a study looking for undetected infections in veterinarians who work with cows.

The idea that research isn't affected is patently ridiculous.

 

[Tom Paris]

that's probably technically/quantitatively true, but believe it or not, it's actually not saying much.

what i do have faith in is that the system - including the bureaucracy, notwithstanding some other feelings i have for them - has created a ship that just doesn't turn on a dime.

This ship is going to be turning a lot faster than you think it will. Trump and The Heritage Foundation learned A LOT from his first administration. Also, he has all the wheels of power rolling the way he wants them to...including a bought and paid for SCOTUS. ACB seems to think for herself a bit, but I would wager if told to she would vote any way Trump wanted her to.

 

[MichaelKeller99]

Probably five years too late but it's a start. 🤷‍♂️

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Let me guess...Project 2025. @binsfeldcyhawk2

Pace yourself Tom. It's gonna be a long 4 years.

 

[Tom Paris]

Pace yourself Tom. It's gonna be a long 4 years.

Not going to be a problem. I'm going to enjoy pointing out your red herring being implemented. Clearly you're okay with what he's doing. Where I think I have been wrong is actually believing you're not a Trump supporter. I'm in the minority on that one.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

Not going to be a problem. I'm going to enjoy pointing out your red herring being implemented. Clearly you're okay with what he's doing. Where I think I have been wrong is actually believing you're not a Trump supporter. I'm in the minority on that one.

Good luck.

Still think the election was stolen and democracy has ended? I don't think so but you seemed pretty sure about it.

 

[Aardvark86]

Your apparent need to minimize this is interesting. It seems you missed this one...

As I said, we'll see. By my count, the administration is 0-1 so far.

my only need to minimize it is that the thread was just so wildly overblown in the first place.

 

[Huey Grey]

No one does, whether the court is the First Circuit (which is about to get very busy), the Fifth Circuit (which is likely to get quieter), or the Supremes.

 

[Colonoscopy]

...and here i am merely named after early computer software...

And here I thought it was a frat nickname

 

[tarheelbybirth]

As I said, we'll see. By my count, the administration is 0-1 so far.

my only need to minimize it is that the thread was just so wildly overblown in the first place.

Halting study sections halts required peer reviews. Halting peer reviews halts grants. Halting grants halts research. On a dime.

I'd say the thread title was definitely exaggerated but to pretend it was "wildly overblown" is. perhaps, "wildly" off the mark.