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NIU - What do we know/expect?

over the last ten or fifteen years NIU has a pretty good record against P5 teams, almost all on the road. IIRC one was against Alabama?

This may not be one of their best teams but they are usually pretty darn good and as mentioned above will be a good test for an opener.
 
Rudock threw a terrible pick to seal the deal for NIU.

Good thing he got zero snaps during the 4-8 2012 season.
Is it really rewarding to continue to drag up supposed issues from 6 or 7 years ago? Is it your belief that he couldn't possibly have thrown a bad pass in that game, if he had played a few garbage snaps the previous year? :rolleyes:
 
Is it really rewarding to continue to drag up supposed issues from 6 or 7 years ago? Is it your belief that he couldn't possibly have thrown a bad pass in that game, if he had played a few garbage snaps the previous year? :rolleyes:

I will bring up whatever issues I please. This one in particular because it is a recurring theme during KF's tenure and has relevance as recently as 2014. He makes QB changes more slowly than logic would dictate.

McCann/Banks
Christensen/Stanzi
Vandenberg/Rudock
Rudock/Beathard

It is my belief that maybe Rudock doesn't throw that pass in 2013 if he already threw it in 2012 and got his butt chewed for his efforts.

Likewise, maybe KF has one less loss to a MAC team on his record.

Obviously this is all speculation, but people were discussing that game and not letting Rudock get any minutes in 2012 has always grinded my gears.
 
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I will bring up whatever issues I please. This one in particular because it is a recurring theme during KF's tenure and has relevance as recently as 2014. He makes QB changes more slowly than logic would dictate.

McCann/Banks
Christensen/Stanzi
Vandenberg/Rudock
Rudock/Beathard

It is my belief that maybe Rudock doesn't throw that pass in 2013 if he already threw it in 2012 and got his butt chewed for his efforts.

Likewise, maybe KF has one less loss to a MAC team on his record.

Obviously this is all speculation, but people were discussing that game and not letting Rudock get any minutes in 2012 has always grinded my gears.
Yes, you can certainly bring up whatever you want. Thats pretty obvious, just look at this board. However, stating that if JR had played a handful of plays the previous year, that he would not have thrown that interception, is totally ridiculous, and you know it. Your just using that to support your complaint about KF when you have NO way to know if its true. I mean seriously, you KNOW that the guy couldn't have made that poor decision, if he played in a few plays before? These QB complaints never end, and of course our online warriors know so much better then the staff, who should be playing at the time. You know for a fact, that because CJ played well after they made the switch, that he was ready and was the best man for the job the previous season to replace the returning starter JR? So its not possible that he matured greatly and settled into the role over the previous 12 months? Same argument goes for Banks, who was a JUCO and new to the system. Could he have been a better option at that time? Maybe, but I have no way of knowing that, and neither do you. Past statements from some of these players might support that they had some growing up to do, or other variables. We all get frustrated some times with decisions that are made, but for the most part, I'm pretty sure this staff knows WAY more then I do about everything that goes into these decisions. Maybe you know better then them, givin your perch in the stands or in front of your TV on Saturdays, but I have my doubts.
 
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Greg Davis called that pass. It was a stupid call. The corner was sitting there and waiting for it. Had Davis called a double move, the corner would have been burned, and Iowa might have had a clinching TD, although there's no guarantee the future Michigan QB would have actually managed to make the completion, but at least the throw wouldn't have been intercepted, and Iowa would have won.

For a QB who we were told ad infinitum won the job because of how smart he was, that was one dumb pass, and it was an even dumber call by the brilliant former Texas OC.
 
Yes, you can certainly bring up whatever you want. Thats pretty obvious, just look at this board. However, stating that if JR had played a handful of plays the previous year, that he would not have thrown that interception, is totally ridiculous, and you know it. Your just using that to support your complaint about KF when you have NO way to know if its true. I mean seriously, you KNOW that the guy couldn't have made that poor decision, if he played in a few plays before? These QB complaints never end, and of course our online warriors know so much better then the staff, who should be playing at the time. You know for a fact, that because CJ played well after they made the switch, that he was ready and was the best man for the job the previous season to replace the returning starter JR? So its not possible that he matured greatly and settled into the role over the previous 12 months? Same argument goes for Banks, who was a JUCO and new to the system. Could he have been a better option at that time? Maybe, but I have no way of knowing that, and neither do you. Past statements from some of these players might support that they had some growing up to do, or other variables. We all get frustrated some times with decisions that are made, but for the most part, I'm pretty sure this staff knows WAY more then I do about everything that goes into these decisions. Maybe you know better then them, givin your perch in the stands or in front of your TV on Saturdays, but I have my doubts.

I never said I know anything, specifically using the words maybe and speculation.

My point was also illustrated with a visual example and empirical evidence.

You have provided nothing except saying the staff is above criticism because they know more about football than we do(they obviously do). If that is the case, there is no reason to post much of anything on these boards.

I suppose there is always the thread on ISU's new uniforms.
 
I never said I know anything, specifically using the words maybe and speculation.

My point was also illustrated with a visual example and empirical evidence.

You have provided nothing except saying the staff is above criticism because they know more about football than we do(they obviously do). If that is the case, there is no reason to post much of anything on these boards.

I suppose there is always the thread on ISU's new uniforms.
Cmon, waffle much do we? So you never said you know anything, and you agree the coaches know way more about the game, and the players then we do. And yet your earlier statements were about how they were playing the wrong guys at QB and they were not logical on who they picked??????? If they know more then you, (or I) for that matter, then how can you assure fans that they picked the wrong guy? That makes absolutely no sense. Also, at no point did I say that the staff is always above criticism. I think its clear from time to time the program has needed a injection of new ideas, and new blood, and for the most part this has happened. We can speculate these changes should have happened a year or two earlier on some occassions, but changes have been made. The last overhaul seems to be bearing positive fruit, so I'm optimistic we're headed in the right direction.
 
From what I can tell, Iowa is favored by 13. We know they finished 2nd in the MAC West last year and had a win over Nebraska (which we know didn't mean much after the fact).

2:30 kickoff so hopefully a little more life and/or creativity than we normally see in Game 1, but certainly know what I should expect from a play calling standpoint.

What should we expect? Dogfight? Hawks with ease? Any thoughts or insight?
I know that their fans will be a**holes leading up to the game because they got their big britches beating Big Ten teams over the last 5 years, and based on their conversations leading up to our game in 2013, and following that.

I expect Iowa to win so we don't have to deal with them anymore. :)
 
I’m starting to worry a bit about our chances of being 2-0. If some posters really think NIU is better than ISU I’m surprised... on the other hand, if the Hawks handle both of them and nobody is hurt when Wisconsin rolls into town, I will feel this team is battle tested and anything could happen.
 
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I’m starting to worry a bit about our chances of being 2-0. If some posters really think NIU is better than ISU I’m surprised... on the other hand, if the Hawks handle both of them and nobody is hurt when Wisconsin rolls into town, I will feel this team is battle tested and anything could happen.

We'll find out real fast if KFz has grown...or its' same ol' same ol'... 0-2 isn't out of the question. Neither is 2-0.

Playing it close to the vest and using the non-con as tune up games won't cut it this year. The opponents will come in playing to win.
 
Many posters spent all of last offseason talking up Wyoming and Josh Allen. Iowa won 24-3.

I'm not predicting a walk in the park, but Iowa will beat NIU.

This right here. Every year reading this board with all the lead up to first we game hear about how great our first team will be and people over hype them. Remember in 15' season lot of people thought Illinois St would beat us after being FCS runner up year before with some former IU QB and great RB. Not saying NIU will be walk in the park but don't think they are better than ISU next year. As for 13' game another poster noted QB Lynch was top 3 in Heisman vote that was a major factor and huge difference maker and we were breaking in a new QB with a FB playing RB.

I think this years team will be better than 13' team and NIU won't be as good as the one they had that season.
 
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I’m starting to worry a bit about our chances of being 2-0. If some posters really think NIU is better than ISU I’m surprised... on the other hand, if the Hawks handle both of them and nobody is hurt when Wisconsin rolls into town, I will feel this team is battle tested and anything could happen.
NIU's D will probably be a little ahead of ISU's D ... whereas ISU's O should be ahead of NIU's O. Both teams should be pretty darn good ... and both teams ought to give the Hawks one heck of a tussle. I think that Iowa CAN start the season 2-0 ... however, a lot of that is on the players to be focused and prepared.

The good news is that NIU really likes to run the ball ... so that will help the Hawks to get their ducks in a row as it relates to run D. Furthermore, they tend to do a lot of quick hitters in the passing game. ISU has a much better long game (passing) than NIU ... however, their running game is almost entirely centered upon Montgomery. If the Hawks can stop Montgomery ... then ISU will have to lean heavily upon a somewhat retooled passing game.
 
Hopefully BF gives our OTs a little help with blocking Sutton Smith. Our season goes downhill pretty quickly if he gets To Stanley and Nate gets hurt...

Just a chip by one of our TEs or fullback before going out into a pattern would help.
 
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