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No Matter How You Feel About Masks, You Should Be Alarmed by This Judge’s Decision

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By Lawrence Gostin and Duncan Hosie
Mr. Gostin is a professor of global health law at Georgetown Law and the faculty director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law. Mr. Hosie is a writer and civil rights lawyer.
Should the federal government have the power to address broad public health emergencies?
Last week, a federal judge effectively answered no.
The judge, Kathryn Kimball Mizelle, who serves on a Federal District Court in Florida and was appointed by former President Donald Trump, issued a nationwide injunction blocking the government’s mask mandate for planes, trains, buses and other forms of public transportation.
No matter how you feel now about masks, you should be alarmed by her decision. Judge Mizelle’s ruling could prevent the federal government from effectively and nimbly responding to future pandemics. And long after this pandemic has faded, her approach and rationale could undermine the federal government’s authority to confront other big problems, from occupational health and safety to climate change.
The Biden administration has appealed the decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, but that carries its own risks. Six of the 11 actives judges on that court are Trump appointees. A loss there by the Justice Department could permanently weaken the government’s authority to respond to health emergencies.
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Up until very recently, the statutory authority of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to try to curb the interstate or international transmission of an infectious, deadly disease was not in doubt. The Public Health Service Act authorizes the C.D.C. to “make and enforce such regulations” that in its “judgment are necessary to prevent the introduction, transmission or spread of communicable diseases.”
The law provides that the C.D.C. can enforce “sanitation” and “other measures” to achieve this goal. The transportation mask requirement is crucial to the agency’s ability to meet its congressional mandate because travelers in a pandemic can unknowingly carry a virus across the country, dispersing it along the way.
Since the New Deal, federal courts have generally declined to strike down reasonable agency regulations. And for good reason. In writing laws, Congress cannot envision or micromanage every possible scenario. Unexpected events — say, perhaps, a global public health crisis — create novel challenges. So, Congress delegates rule-making power to agencies, which develop and issue evidence-based regulations to combat complex problems.
Agencies do not have, nor should they have, unfettered authority to act, but courts should defer to their reasonable interpretations of federal law. In this case, Congress delegated powers to the C.D.C., a scientific agency charged with protecting the nation’s health.
Judge Mizelle’s opinion rejects this longstanding consensus over the way government works. Adopting a strained and tendentious reading of the word “sanitation,” she concluded that the C.D.C. exceeded its legal authority. In her view, it was untenable that the “C.D.C. claims a power to regulate how individuals behave in such diverse places as airplanes, train stations, marinas and personal vehicles used in ride-sharing services across town.”
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In reality, the C.D.C. claims no power that Congress had not explicitly given it. An agency tasked with slowing the interstate spread of a highly infectious virus would regulate interstate travel, which occurs because “diverse places” like airplanes and train stations are often crowded, and passengers are confined for long periods of time.
Under Judge Mizelle’s logic, the agency would also have no authority under existing law to impose a mask mandate in a future pandemic — say if a new and more dangerous variant of the coronavirus strikes, as it might. It wouldn’t matter how deadly the future variant or pandemic was. Or how communicable the disease was in airplanes or trains. Or the effectiveness of masks in slowing spread. Or whether the pathogen evaded vaccines. Her peculiar reading of the statute restricts the C.D.C.’s ability to respond to a future health crisis, handcuffing it when the agency is most needed.
Judge Mizelle lacks experience or expertise in public health. The C.D.C., conversely, is staffed by virologists, epidemiologists and other highly respected scientists accountable to the president, who in turn can be held to account by the public. A constitutional democracy is challenged when a lone judge, lacking competence in public health, can unilaterally dismantle a nationwide public health policy during a crisis. We can’t think of a worse way for Covid-era masking to end than at the hand of a single federal judge sitting in the Middle District of Florida.
Judge Mizelle is among a cadre of Trump appointees to the federal bench who are using the foil of pandemic public health regulations to dismantle the national government’s legal authority to solve problems. They have sought to change underlying principles of administrative law, limiting the type of regulations that agencies can create and letting individual judges substitute their policy views for agencies’ reasoned interpretations. Their push includes eliminating the legal doctrine of Chevron deference, laid out in a unanimous 1984 Supreme Court decision that gives federal agencies leeway when interpreting ambiguous or unclear laws.
This campaign starts at the top, with a Supreme Court transformed by Mr. Trump’s three appointments. In August 2021, as the Delta variant surged, the Supreme Court blocked the C.D.C. from enforcing a federal eviction moratorium, which was intended to prevent mass evictions and keep people out of congregate settings where Covid spreads most easily. In January, as the Omicron variant strained hospitals across the country, the Supreme Court barred the Occupational Safety and Health Administration from imposing a vaccination-or-test requirement for large employers.
In these decisions and others, the Supreme Court’s most conservative justices have displayed a blasé disregard for precedents and the exigencies of a deadly pandemic, which had killed nearly one million Americans as of late last week.
The Justice Department’s decision to appeal Judge Mizelle’s decision was welcome news. The C.D.C. must have the legal authority to protect public health. But should the appellate court uphold her ruling, the C.D.C. will be seriously hobbled and a ruinous precedent will be set for the entire federal regulatory apparatus. Worse, the Supreme Court might review the case and use it as part of its larger crusade to deconstruct the administrative state.
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This fracas over masking in public transportation will eventually fade. But decisions like Judge Mizelle’s could remain law, burdening agencies and restricting the scope of policymaking. That should trouble Americans who want a government that can protect them in future pandemics — or to take action to address any hard problem that threatens their health, safety and security.

 
By Lawrence Gostin and Duncan Hosie
Mr. Gostin is a professor of global health law at Georgetown Law and the faculty director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law. Mr. Hosie is a writer and civil rights lawyer.
Should the federal government have the power to address broad public health emergencies?
Last week, a federal judge effectively answered no.
The judge, Kathryn Kimball Mizelle, who serves on a Federal District Court in Florida and was appointed by former President Donald Trump, issued a nationwide injunction blocking the government’s mask mandate for planes, trains, buses and other forms of public transportation.
No matter how you feel now about masks, you should be alarmed by her decision. Judge Mizelle’s ruling could prevent the federal government from effectively and nimbly responding to future pandemics. And long after this pandemic has faded, her approach and rationale could undermine the federal government’s authority to confront other big problems, from occupational health and safety to climate change.
The Biden administration has appealed the decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, but that carries its own risks. Six of the 11 actives judges on that court are Trump appointees. A loss there by the Justice Department could permanently weaken the government’s authority to respond to health emergencies.
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Continue reading the main story


Up until very recently, the statutory authority of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to try to curb the interstate or international transmission of an infectious, deadly disease was not in doubt. The Public Health Service Act authorizes the C.D.C. to “make and enforce such regulations” that in its “judgment are necessary to prevent the introduction, transmission or spread of communicable diseases.”
The law provides that the C.D.C. can enforce “sanitation” and “other measures” to achieve this goal. The transportation mask requirement is crucial to the agency’s ability to meet its congressional mandate because travelers in a pandemic can unknowingly carry a virus across the country, dispersing it along the way.
Since the New Deal, federal courts have generally declined to strike down reasonable agency regulations. And for good reason. In writing laws, Congress cannot envision or micromanage every possible scenario. Unexpected events — say, perhaps, a global public health crisis — create novel challenges. So, Congress delegates rule-making power to agencies, which develop and issue evidence-based regulations to combat complex problems.
Agencies do not have, nor should they have, unfettered authority to act, but courts should defer to their reasonable interpretations of federal law. In this case, Congress delegated powers to the C.D.C., a scientific agency charged with protecting the nation’s health.
Judge Mizelle’s opinion rejects this longstanding consensus over the way government works. Adopting a strained and tendentious reading of the word “sanitation,” she concluded that the C.D.C. exceeded its legal authority. In her view, it was untenable that the “C.D.C. claims a power to regulate how individuals behave in such diverse places as airplanes, train stations, marinas and personal vehicles used in ride-sharing services across town.”
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In reality, the C.D.C. claims no power that Congress had not explicitly given it. An agency tasked with slowing the interstate spread of a highly infectious virus would regulate interstate travel, which occurs because “diverse places” like airplanes and train stations are often crowded, and passengers are confined for long periods of time.
Under Judge Mizelle’s logic, the agency would also have no authority under existing law to impose a mask mandate in a future pandemic — say if a new and more dangerous variant of the coronavirus strikes, as it might. It wouldn’t matter how deadly the future variant or pandemic was. Or how communicable the disease was in airplanes or trains. Or the effectiveness of masks in slowing spread. Or whether the pathogen evaded vaccines. Her peculiar reading of the statute restricts the C.D.C.’s ability to respond to a future health crisis, handcuffing it when the agency is most needed.
Judge Mizelle lacks experience or expertise in public health. The C.D.C., conversely, is staffed by virologists, epidemiologists and other highly respected scientists accountable to the president, who in turn can be held to account by the public. A constitutional democracy is challenged when a lone judge, lacking competence in public health, can unilaterally dismantle a nationwide public health policy during a crisis. We can’t think of a worse way for Covid-era masking to end than at the hand of a single federal judge sitting in the Middle District of Florida.
Judge Mizelle is among a cadre of Trump appointees to the federal bench who are using the foil of pandemic public health regulations to dismantle the national government’s legal authority to solve problems. They have sought to change underlying principles of administrative law, limiting the type of regulations that agencies can create and letting individual judges substitute their policy views for agencies’ reasoned interpretations. Their push includes eliminating the legal doctrine of Chevron deference, laid out in a unanimous 1984 Supreme Court decision that gives federal agencies leeway when interpreting ambiguous or unclear laws.
This campaign starts at the top, with a Supreme Court transformed by Mr. Trump’s three appointments. In August 2021, as the Delta variant surged, the Supreme Court blocked the C.D.C. from enforcing a federal eviction moratorium, which was intended to prevent mass evictions and keep people out of congregate settings where Covid spreads most easily. In January, as the Omicron variant strained hospitals across the country, the Supreme Court barred the Occupational Safety and Health Administration from imposing a vaccination-or-test requirement for large employers.
In these decisions and others, the Supreme Court’s most conservative justices have displayed a blasé disregard for precedents and the exigencies of a deadly pandemic, which had killed nearly one million Americans as of late last week.
The Justice Department’s decision to appeal Judge Mizelle’s decision was welcome news. The C.D.C. must have the legal authority to protect public health. But should the appellate court uphold her ruling, the C.D.C. will be seriously hobbled and a ruinous precedent will be set for the entire federal regulatory apparatus. Worse, the Supreme Court might review the case and use it as part of its larger crusade to deconstruct the administrative state.
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This fracas over masking in public transportation will eventually fade. But decisions like Judge Mizelle’s could remain law, burdening agencies and restricting the scope of policymaking. That should trouble Americans who want a government that can protect them in future pandemics — or to take action to address any hard problem that threatens their health, safety and security.

Flying and masks:

I was on two airplanes and in two different airports on Saturday. Best guess is there were 15 to 20 percent of passengers wearing a mask. I did.
 
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Flying and masks:

I was on two airplanes and in two different airports on Saturday. Best guess is there were 15 to 20 percent of passengers wearing a mask. I did.
I'm sure if the cdc would issue an appropriate safeguard, it would be followed. Covid is much less threatening due to vaccines and a less threatening strain of Covid. We don't need more fear porn. The left needs to quit being the party of no commonsense..
 
By Lawrence Gostin and Duncan Hosie
Mr. Gostin is a professor of global health law at Georgetown Law and the faculty director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law. Mr. Hosie is a writer and civil rights lawyer.
Should the federal government have the power to address broad public health emergencies?
Last week, a federal judge effectively answered no.
The judge, Kathryn Kimball Mizelle, who serves on a Federal District Court in Florida and was appointed by former President Donald Trump, issued a nationwide injunction blocking the government’s mask mandate for planes, trains, buses and other forms of public transportation.
No matter how you feel now about masks, you should be alarmed by her decision. Judge Mizelle’s ruling could prevent the federal government from effectively and nimbly responding to future pandemics. And long after this pandemic has faded, her approach and rationale could undermine the federal government’s authority to confront other big problems, from occupational health and safety to climate change.
The Biden administration has appealed the decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, but that carries its own risks. Six of the 11 actives judges on that court are Trump appointees. A loss there by the Justice Department could permanently weaken the government’s authority to respond to health emergencies.
Advertisement
Continue reading the main story


Up until very recently, the statutory authority of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to try to curb the interstate or international transmission of an infectious, deadly disease was not in doubt. The Public Health Service Act authorizes the C.D.C. to “make and enforce such regulations” that in its “judgment are necessary to prevent the introduction, transmission or spread of communicable diseases.”
The law provides that the C.D.C. can enforce “sanitation” and “other measures” to achieve this goal. The transportation mask requirement is crucial to the agency’s ability to meet its congressional mandate because travelers in a pandemic can unknowingly carry a virus across the country, dispersing it along the way.
Since the New Deal, federal courts have generally declined to strike down reasonable agency regulations. And for good reason. In writing laws, Congress cannot envision or micromanage every possible scenario. Unexpected events — say, perhaps, a global public health crisis — create novel challenges. So, Congress delegates rule-making power to agencies, which develop and issue evidence-based regulations to combat complex problems.
Agencies do not have, nor should they have, unfettered authority to act, but courts should defer to their reasonable interpretations of federal law. In this case, Congress delegated powers to the C.D.C., a scientific agency charged with protecting the nation’s health.
Judge Mizelle’s opinion rejects this longstanding consensus over the way government works. Adopting a strained and tendentious reading of the word “sanitation,” she concluded that the C.D.C. exceeded its legal authority. In her view, it was untenable that the “C.D.C. claims a power to regulate how individuals behave in such diverse places as airplanes, train stations, marinas and personal vehicles used in ride-sharing services across town.”
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In reality, the C.D.C. claims no power that Congress had not explicitly given it. An agency tasked with slowing the interstate spread of a highly infectious virus would regulate interstate travel, which occurs because “diverse places” like airplanes and train stations are often crowded, and passengers are confined for long periods of time.
Under Judge Mizelle’s logic, the agency would also have no authority under existing law to impose a mask mandate in a future pandemic — say if a new and more dangerous variant of the coronavirus strikes, as it might. It wouldn’t matter how deadly the future variant or pandemic was. Or how communicable the disease was in airplanes or trains. Or the effectiveness of masks in slowing spread. Or whether the pathogen evaded vaccines. Her peculiar reading of the statute restricts the C.D.C.’s ability to respond to a future health crisis, handcuffing it when the agency is most needed.
Judge Mizelle lacks experience or expertise in public health. The C.D.C., conversely, is staffed by virologists, epidemiologists and other highly respected scientists accountable to the president, who in turn can be held to account by the public. A constitutional democracy is challenged when a lone judge, lacking competence in public health, can unilaterally dismantle a nationwide public health policy during a crisis. We can’t think of a worse way for Covid-era masking to end than at the hand of a single federal judge sitting in the Middle District of Florida.
Judge Mizelle is among a cadre of Trump appointees to the federal bench who are using the foil of pandemic public health regulations to dismantle the national government’s legal authority to solve problems. They have sought to change underlying principles of administrative law, limiting the type of regulations that agencies can create and letting individual judges substitute their policy views for agencies’ reasoned interpretations. Their push includes eliminating the legal doctrine of Chevron deference, laid out in a unanimous 1984 Supreme Court decision that gives federal agencies leeway when interpreting ambiguous or unclear laws.
This campaign starts at the top, with a Supreme Court transformed by Mr. Trump’s three appointments. In August 2021, as the Delta variant surged, the Supreme Court blocked the C.D.C. from enforcing a federal eviction moratorium, which was intended to prevent mass evictions and keep people out of congregate settings where Covid spreads most easily. In January, as the Omicron variant strained hospitals across the country, the Supreme Court barred the Occupational Safety and Health Administration from imposing a vaccination-or-test requirement for large employers.
In these decisions and others, the Supreme Court’s most conservative justices have displayed a blasé disregard for precedents and the exigencies of a deadly pandemic, which had killed nearly one million Americans as of late last week.
The Justice Department’s decision to appeal Judge Mizelle’s decision was welcome news. The C.D.C. must have the legal authority to protect public health. But should the appellate court uphold her ruling, the C.D.C. will be seriously hobbled and a ruinous precedent will be set for the entire federal regulatory apparatus. Worse, the Supreme Court might review the case and use it as part of its larger crusade to deconstruct the administrative state.
Advertisement
Continue reading the main story


This fracas over masking in public transportation will eventually fade. But decisions like Judge Mizelle’s could remain law, burdening agencies and restricting the scope of policymaking. That should trouble Americans who want a government that can protect them in future pandemics — or to take action to address any hard problem that threatens their health, safety and security.

I'm not sure the judge said the feds "shouldn't" have such authority. I think she said they "don't." That, of course, is a very big difference. Now as to her conclusion that they "don't", having read the opinion, I didn't think much of her textual analysis at all.
 
By Lawrence Gostin and Duncan Hosie
Mr. Gostin is a professor of global health law at Georgetown Law and the faculty director of the O’Neill Institute for National and Global Health Law. Mr. Hosie is a writer and civil rights lawyer.
Should the federal government have the power to address broad public health emergencies?
Last week, a federal judge effectively answered no.
The judge, Kathryn Kimball Mizelle, who serves on a Federal District Court in Florida and was appointed by former President Donald Trump, issued a nationwide injunction blocking the government’s mask mandate for planes, trains, buses and other forms of public transportation.
No matter how you feel now about masks, you should be alarmed by her decision. Judge Mizelle’s ruling could prevent the federal government from effectively and nimbly responding to future pandemics. And long after this pandemic has faded, her approach and rationale could undermine the federal government’s authority to confront other big problems, from occupational health and safety to climate change.
The Biden administration has appealed the decision to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit, but that carries its own risks. Six of the 11 actives judges on that court are Trump appointees. A loss there by the Justice Department could permanently weaken the government’s authority to respond to health emergencies.
Advertisement
Continue reading the main story


Up until very recently, the statutory authority of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to try to curb the interstate or international transmission of an infectious, deadly disease was not in doubt. The Public Health Service Act authorizes the C.D.C. to “make and enforce such regulations” that in its “judgment are necessary to prevent the introduction, transmission or spread of communicable diseases.”
The law provides that the C.D.C. can enforce “sanitation” and “other measures” to achieve this goal. The transportation mask requirement is crucial to the agency’s ability to meet its congressional mandate because travelers in a pandemic can unknowingly carry a virus across the country, dispersing it along the way.
Since the New Deal, federal courts have generally declined to strike down reasonable agency regulations. And for good reason. In writing laws, Congress cannot envision or micromanage every possible scenario. Unexpected events — say, perhaps, a global public health crisis — create novel challenges. So, Congress delegates rule-making power to agencies, which develop and issue evidence-based regulations to combat complex problems.
Agencies do not have, nor should they have, unfettered authority to act, but courts should defer to their reasonable interpretations of federal law. In this case, Congress delegated powers to the C.D.C., a scientific agency charged with protecting the nation’s health.
Judge Mizelle’s opinion rejects this longstanding consensus over the way government works. Adopting a strained and tendentious reading of the word “sanitation,” she concluded that the C.D.C. exceeded its legal authority. In her view, it was untenable that the “C.D.C. claims a power to regulate how individuals behave in such diverse places as airplanes, train stations, marinas and personal vehicles used in ride-sharing services across town.”
Advertisement
Continue reading the main story


In reality, the C.D.C. claims no power that Congress had not explicitly given it. An agency tasked with slowing the interstate spread of a highly infectious virus would regulate interstate travel, which occurs because “diverse places” like airplanes and train stations are often crowded, and passengers are confined for long periods of time.
Under Judge Mizelle’s logic, the agency would also have no authority under existing law to impose a mask mandate in a future pandemic — say if a new and more dangerous variant of the coronavirus strikes, as it might. It wouldn’t matter how deadly the future variant or pandemic was. Or how communicable the disease was in airplanes or trains. Or the effectiveness of masks in slowing spread. Or whether the pathogen evaded vaccines. Her peculiar reading of the statute restricts the C.D.C.’s ability to respond to a future health crisis, handcuffing it when the agency is most needed.
Judge Mizelle lacks experience or expertise in public health. The C.D.C., conversely, is staffed by virologists, epidemiologists and other highly respected scientists accountable to the president, who in turn can be held to account by the public. A constitutional democracy is challenged when a lone judge, lacking competence in public health, can unilaterally dismantle a nationwide public health policy during a crisis. We can’t think of a worse way for Covid-era masking to end than at the hand of a single federal judge sitting in the Middle District of Florida.
Judge Mizelle is among a cadre of Trump appointees to the federal bench who are using the foil of pandemic public health regulations to dismantle the national government’s legal authority to solve problems. They have sought to change underlying principles of administrative law, limiting the type of regulations that agencies can create and letting individual judges substitute their policy views for agencies’ reasoned interpretations. Their push includes eliminating the legal doctrine of Chevron deference, laid out in a unanimous 1984 Supreme Court decision that gives federal agencies leeway when interpreting ambiguous or unclear laws.
This campaign starts at the top, with a Supreme Court transformed by Mr. Trump’s three appointments. In August 2021, as the Delta variant surged, the Supreme Court blocked the C.D.C. from enforcing a federal eviction moratorium, which was intended to prevent mass evictions and keep people out of congregate settings where Covid spreads most easily. In January, as the Omicron variant strained hospitals across the country, the Supreme Court barred the Occupational Safety and Health Administration from imposing a vaccination-or-test requirement for large employers.
In these decisions and others, the Supreme Court’s most conservative justices have displayed a blasé disregard for precedents and the exigencies of a deadly pandemic, which had killed nearly one million Americans as of late last week.
The Justice Department’s decision to appeal Judge Mizelle’s decision was welcome news. The C.D.C. must have the legal authority to protect public health. But should the appellate court uphold her ruling, the C.D.C. will be seriously hobbled and a ruinous precedent will be set for the entire federal regulatory apparatus. Worse, the Supreme Court might review the case and use it as part of its larger crusade to deconstruct the administrative state.
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Continue reading the main story


This fracas over masking in public transportation will eventually fade. But decisions like Judge Mizelle’s could remain law, burdening agencies and restricting the scope of policymaking. That should trouble Americans who want a government that can protect them in future pandemics — or to take action to address any hard problem that threatens their health, safety and security.


Republicans want activist judges
 
That's exactly right. In America, Republicans appoint judges to make laws that are commonsense to their political point of view.
Dems think commonsense is canceling people like Abraham Lincoln and Thomas Jefferson. They like to defund the police in high crime cities like Chicago and New York. Now they're whining about not keeping the masks. Happy there are judges with commonsense. Dems need commonsense.
 
I'm not sure the judge said the feds "shouldn't" have such authority. I think she said they "don't." That, of course, is a very big difference. Now as to her conclusion that they "don't", having read the opinion, I didn't think much of her textual analysis at all.
There's a reason she was rated as unqualified by the ABA.
 
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But those irresponsible idiots who don't wear them put everyone else at risk.
You put more people at risk when you decide to drive a car than you deciding to not wear a mask.

Is there any subject in which you don't take the chicken little approach? Imagine if you took that approach with untested illegals crossing the border and being put on busses to wherever.
 
So you're of the opinion the CDC should never have the authority to mandate masks? Or quarantine?
Read my previous posts. I think if there is a serious threat, the cdc recombination will and should be followed. In this case, the cdc is off base and I am happy they can be overruled.
 
That's exactly right. In America, Republicans appoint judges to make laws that are commonsense to their political point of view.
I don't want to live in a country when the goverment can tell us when and where we are permitted to go and how we must present ourselves. I wear a mask but that is my choice. I had no objection to everyone wearing a mask for a time but it became obvious wearing a mask was not just a healthcare measure for the political left. There will never be zero covid going forward so I think we need to be given our freedom back.

Or how about this, the legislature can pass a law if they feel it is necessary but we don't rule by autocratic decrees in this country.
 
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They are tested at the border. More disinformation.
They are only tested if they have symptoms, per Jen Psaki. And there is no federal mandate for testing them. Local authorities are relied upon to do it if they choose. They are also not mandated to get a vaccine like everyone who flies here legally. But are given all kinds of wiggle room if they cross the border illegally. But hey, anything to avoid having to admit to a shitty policy by the Biden WH, I guess.
 
They are only tested if they have symptoms, per Jen Psaki. And there is no federal mandate for testing them. Local authorities are relied upon to do it if they choose. They are also not mandated to get a vaccine like everyone who flies here legally. But are given all kinds of wiggle room if they cross the border illegally. But hey, anything to avoid having to admit to a shitty policy by the Biden WH, I guess.
Homeland Security is lying then. 100% of noncitizens are required to have a negative test to enter.

Edit: This isn’t about Biden, more about you and the disinformation you constantly spew. This was also the previous administration’s policy.
 
Whatever. It was a commonsense decision. Americans are free to choose their own safety measures.
So would it be a logical extension of the ruling that the FAA has no authority to mandate the use of seatbelts on aircraft? I mean, if we're all free to choose our own safety measures and all.

I don't have a big problem with the mask mandate going away, but I do have a big problem with the judge declaring that the government has no legal ability to issue a mandate.
 
You're an idiot.

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I'm sure if the cdc would issue an appropriate safeguard, it would be followed. Covid is much less threatening due to vaccines and a less threatening strain of Covid. We don't need more fear porn. The left needs to quit being the party of no commonsense..
Lol! Hilarious! Are you implying that republicans have commonsense? If so, you are completely out of touch with reality. I’ve never heard of ANY politician that has commonsense, they are all out of touch with anything common.
 
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Homeland Security is lying then. 100% of noncitizens are required to have a negative test to enter.

Edit: This isn’t about Biden, more about you and the disinformation you constantly spew. This was also the previous administration’s policy.
No. It's not about Biden. My post is about ciggy screaming about he sky falling that no one wears a mask while never giving a shit about protests, border crossings and all other ways COVID is way more of a danger.

And here was a fact check done a while ago in regards to border testing...


Meanwhile, at the southern border reports have shown there is no widespread testing by federal agencies there. Instead, to the degree testing is occurring, local governments are being relied upon to do it.
 
No. It's not about Biden. My post is about ciggy screaming about he sky falling that no one wears a mask while never giving a shit about protests, border crossings and all other ways COVID is way more of a danger.

And here was a fact check done a while ago in regards to border testing...


Meanwhile, at the southern border reports have shown there is no widespread testing by federal agencies there. Instead, to the degree testing is occurring, local governments are being relied upon to do it.
From the same article: "COVID-19 testing protocols have existed at the border under both the present and former administrations. Testing is done via a patchwork of federal agencies, local governments, organizations and contractors at various stages of the immigration process.

"In April, the U.S. Department of Homeland Security told PolitiFact that it works with state authorities, local authorities and non-governmental organizations to ensure that ‘100% of noncitizens’ are tested for COVID-19 ‘at some point during their immigration journey.’ The agency also has told PolitiFact that a negative coronavirus test is required by the federal government before entry to the U.S."

What you posted was the actual myth.
 
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That's a non-answer. Who, if not the CDC, determines if the threat is serious? Should that entity be able to mandate mask usage? Quarantine?
Do you remember when the CDC said (during the height of the pandemic in 2020 mind you) suddenly stop social distancing and that it was OK to protest the police all over the country because racism was a bigger threat at the time than COVID? Do you remember that?

If so, you might agree that it was at that moment that some folks collectively decided that the CDC might not be the best judge of policy. And that maybe they're an agency driven more by ideology than science.


WTF?

“We should always evaluate the risks and benefits of efforts to control the virus,” Jennifer Nuzzo, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist, tweeted on Tuesday. “In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus.”
 
Do you remember when the CDC said (during the height of the pandemic in 2020 mind you) suddenly stop social distancing and that it was OK to protest the police all over the country because racism was a bigger threat at the time than COVID? Do you remember that?

If so, you might agree that it was at that moment that some folks collectively decided that the CDC might not be the best judge of policy. And that maybe they're an agency driven more by ideology than science.


WTF?

“We should always evaluate the risks and benefits of efforts to control the virus,” Jennifer Nuzzo, a Johns Hopkins epidemiologist, tweeted on Tuesday. “In this moment the public health risks of not protesting to demand an end to systemic racism greatly exceed the harms of the virus.”
You might be the most gullible poster on here. Lol
 
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