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October 24, 2015 - Whom to root for?

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B1G Games on Saturday:
Wisconsin at Illinois
Northwestern at Nebraska
Indiana at Michigan State
Penn State at Maryland
Ohio State at Rutgers

What's driving my thought process? (1) What benefits Iowa overall? (2) What benefits the B1G overall?

Wisconsin/Illinois - Given all of the negative publicity surrounding Iowa's remaining schedule, I firmly believe that it will need to be able to point to quality wins at the end of the year. Wisconsin still has a national reputation. While I fully understand that, if Wisconsin keeps winning, the heat remains on Iowa to win, I think that all of us are now looking at big prizes at the end of the year. And, those big prizes are far more reachable if Wisconsin continues to win and gets back into the rankings. If Iowa ends up being the B1G West champion ahead of a 10-2 Wisconsin team which has only lost to Alabama and Iowa, I'm just fine with that result. Not only do I think Wisconsin will win, I'll be pulling for Wisconsin to do so..

Northwestern at Nebraska - Northwestern has solid wins against Pac12 Stanford and ACC Duke. It has been embarrassed by B1G Michigan and Iowa. Nebraska has zero "solid" wins this year (calling Minnesota a "solid" win right now is a stretch) and losses to two ACC Miami and Indy BYU along with two other opponents common to Iowa - Illinois and Wisconsin. Even if Nebraska beats Northwestern, I don't see them being any better than 6-5 going into the last game of the year - I don't see them beating Michigan State. If my goal is to have Iowa's wins look as impressive as possible at year's end and to avoid a "lump of mediocrity" in the B1G West, I'm hoping that Northwestern turns things around and finishes 9-3. Personally, I think that Nebraska is better than its record suggests and I think that Nebraska is going to beat up on Northwestern this weekend. Northwestern's offense is simply abyssmal and, despite Nebraska's struggles against the pass, I don't see Northwestern posing much of a passing threat. Thorson is just not good right now. I think that Nebraska wins but I will be rooting for Northwestern.

Penn State at Maryland - I frankly don't really care other than I don't want to see Maryland have a great game and suddenly "find themselves." So . . I guess that I'm rooting for Penn State to issue a beat down so that Maryland comes into Iowa City on 10/31 feeling pretty badly about themselves and mentally defeated before the kick off. I'm pretty confident that PSU wins the game easily.

Ohio State at Rutgers - Ohio State is this year's version of Florida State. They simply have not looked interested and haven't played up to the level of talent on the roster. As fun as it would be to see Urban Meyer lose to Rutgers, that wouldn't bode well for the B1G's reputation. And, when looking at the potential for a big year-end prize for Iowa, it would be much better for OSU to continue to sit on top of the rankings. I cannot envision OSU losing this game and, as much as it pains me, I'm hoping that OSU wins.

Indiana at Michigan State - Strange as it may seem, this is the one game that pains me this weekend. Very conflicting viewpoints; definite yin/yang possibilities. Indiana has under performed its expectations this year and, despite Indiana's embarrassing loss to Rutgers on Saturday, the game on 11/7 in Bloomington scares me to death. I'm not sure that I want Indiana to find its mojo against MSU, followed by a bye week to rest up, get healthy and scheme for the game against Iowa. After giving OSU a close game, Indiana was embarrassed by PSU and Rutgers. They are definitely trending down. An upset win over MSU might result in Iowa facing a rejuvenated team. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing MSU drop a game before it plays OSU in Columbus (I'm inclined to think that OSU wins that game). I'm of the mindset that Iowa's chances for a big year-end prize are enhanced if MSU does NOT go 11-1 with its only loss coming at the hands of #1 OSU - particularly if it was a hard fought, close battle. In that vein, I wouldn't mind seeing Indiana hand MSU a loss. So . . as of now . . I see MSU winning at home and I'm leaning towards pulling for MSU to win. I'm going to hold out hope that Iowa can win the B1G West, that MSU somehow beats OSU to win the B1G East . . . as currently structured, I think that Iowa could give MSU one hell of a battle in Indianapolis.
 
We want Illinois to beat Wisconsin and Northwestern to beat Nebby. Plain and simple. I totally can see this senerio happening... IF Wisconsin losses again and Nebraska wins out..plus a loss somewhere for the Hawks..we would be playing Nebby for the BIG 10 championship. The winner of that game would go...and Nebby has a bye week prior to playing us.
 
Illinois - knocks Wisconsin out of the hunt. We will have an opportunity to play a top 5 team from the East most likely. As long as we win out we would be in the playoff even if Wisconsin lost this game. Plus we beat Illinois too.

Northwestern - knocks Nebraska out of the race, less pressure on us to beat them in Lincoln at the end of the year.

MSU - I want to play them in the CCG

Penn State - Keep Maryland in the dumps.

OSU - want MSU to beat an undefeated OSU
 
Wisconsin needs to win so that we can have a solid road victory against a top rated opponent
Northwestern so that our victory is not swept under the rug and I don't think I can ever hope for Nebby win
Maryland because we do not play PSU and the whole shower room thing
Ohio State needs to win out so we can play them in title game
Indiana bc we do not play MSU and MSU recruits similar players
 
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Illinois - knocks Wisconsin out of the hunt. We will have an opportunity to play a top 5 team from the East most likely. As long as we win out we would be in the playoff even if Wisconsin lost this game. Plus we beat Illinois too.

Northwestern - knocks Nebraska out of the race, less pressure on us to beat them in Lincoln at the end of the year.

MSU - I want to play them in the CCG

Penn State - Keep Maryland in the dumps.

OSU - want MSU to beat an undefeated OSU


This......
 
Any 1-loss B1G West team needs to lose. Since Ill & Wisc both have 1 loss Ill to win since they have the tougher East games. Those Ill will not win.
 
I think it depends if you are wanting to have Iowa back in on the West Division title, or want us to be rated the highest possible.

I tend to want some wiggle room, as I feel if we run the table and are 13-0 and Big Ten champs, we would be in the 4 team National playoff. Can't believe I just typed the last part of that sentence.
 
I think we need to look at the other games across the country, too.

#25 Pitt (5-1) at 3-3 Syracuse, 11 am ESPNU
Comment: Pitt winning the rest of their games would be great, of course.

Teams ranked ahead and just below Iowa:

#6 Clemson at 4-2 Miami, 11 am ABC
Comment: Come on Miami!

IU at #7 Michigan State, 2:30 pm ABC/ ESPN2
Comment: MSU let down after the huge "gift six" win at the Big House?

Tennessee at #8 Alabama, 2:30 pm CBS
Comment: Which Tennessee team shows up? Can they give Bama a 2nd loss?

#9 Florida State at Ga Tech, 6pm ESPN2
Comment: Can Ga Tech pull the upset at home?

#15 Texas A&M (5-1) at #24 Ole Miss (5-2), 6 pm ESPN
Comment: Ole Miss giving A&M a second loss would be a good thing.

#3 Utah at USC, 6:30 pm FOX
Comment: Can USC get its act together and pull off the upset at home?


B1G West Games

5-2, 1-2 Northwestern at 3-4, 1-2 Nebraska, 11am ESPN2
Comment: We want N'w to win to help our SOS; agree?

5-2, 2-1 Wisconsin at 4-2, 1-1 Illinois, 2:30 pm BTN
Comment: We want Wisconsin to win to help our SOS, agree?
 
So if our goal is the Rose Bowl, we want Nebraska to beat MSU, IL to beat Wisconsin, and OSU to beat Michigan/MSU.
 
I believe if Iowa goes 12-0 we're going to appreciate NW and UW winning this weekend a lot more than the loathing we'll feel if they lose.

I think a 6-1 Pitt, a 6-2 N'western and a 6-2 Wisconsin help Iowa's SOS and national perception a lot; Pitt is ranked and N'w and Wisc are receiving votes....
 
I think we need to look at the other games across the country, too.

#25 Pitt (5-1) at 3-3 Syracuse, 11 am ESPNU
Comment: Pitt winning the rest of their games would be great, of course.

Teams ranked ahead and just below Iowa:

#6 Clemson at 4-2 Miami, 11 am ABC
Comment: Come on Miami!

IU at #7 Michigan State, 2:30 pm ABC/ ESPN2
Comment: MSU let down after the huge "gift six" win at the Big House?

Tennessee at #8 Alabama, 2:30 pm CBS
Comment: Which Tennessee team shows up? Can they give Bama a 2nd loss?

#9 Florida State at Ga Tech, 6pm ESPN2
Comment: Can Ga Tech pull the upset at home?

#15 Texas A&M (5-1) at #24 Ole Miss (5-2), 6 pm ESPN
Comment: Ole Miss giving A&M a second loss would be a good thing.

#3 Utah at USC, 6:30 pm FOX
Comment: Can USC get its act together and pull off the upset at home?


B1G West Games

5-2, 1-2 Northwestern at 3-4, 1-2 Nebraska, 11am ESPN2
Comment: We want N'w to win to help our SOS; agree?

5-2, 2-1 Wisconsin at 4-2, 1-1 Illinois, 2:30 pm BTN
Comment: We want Wisconsin to win to help our SOS, agree?

The Big Ten west games will have no impact on our SOS since we play every team. It just depends on whether we want some breathing room to win the division or not. Having Wisconsin and NW win out would certainly give us some high profile wins, but might risk passing us in the division if we slip up
 
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In my eyes, there are two "big prizes" at season's end: Playoff berth or Rose Bowl.

To get a playoff berth, Iowa has to finish 13-0. To get this "prize," it doesn't matter what Wisconsin or Nebraska does. Iowa simply must run the table over the final 6 games.

The road to a Rose Bowl invite has many differing paths. However, I have a hard time believing that one of those paths includes a loss to Maryland, Indiana, Minnesota or Purdue. Lose one of those games, there is still a decent chance of getting to the CCG but it would take a win in the CCG to get a Rose Bowl bid if there is a loss to Maryland, Indiana, Minnesota or Purdue on the resume. If you believe that Iowa must win its next four to have a realistic chance at a Rose Bowl bid, then it doesn't matter what happens with Wisconsin. They are done and out of the way. Win the next four and Iowa will play in Indianapolis.

Could Iowa win a CCG? Sure. Particularly if it is MSU. I am a die-hard Hawkeye through and through but even I have a hard time seeing Iowa knock off OSU. Thus, I'm thinking that the best route for Iowa to get a Rose Bowl invite is to win the next four games, clinch the division, have as strong a resume as possible, finish the season by beating Nebraska (in what will likely be a battle royale) and have strong arguments that it deserves an invite ahead of MSU. If the B1G West is full of teams with 2 and 3 losses, Iowa's arguments to get a Rose Bowl bid are lessened.

That just my $.02.
 
I think we need to look at the other games across the country, too.

#25 Pitt (5-1) at 3-3 Syracuse, 11 am ESPNU
Comment: Pitt winning the rest of their games would be great, of course.

Teams ranked ahead and just below Iowa:

#6 Clemson at 4-2 Miami, 11 am ABC
Comment: Come on Miami!

IU at #7 Michigan State, 2:30 pm ABC/ ESPN2
Comment: MSU let down after the huge "gift six" win at the Big House?

Tennessee at #8 Alabama, 2:30 pm CBS
Comment: Which Tennessee team shows up? Can they give Bama a 2nd loss?

#9 Florida State at Ga Tech, 6pm ESPN2
Comment: Can Ga Tech pull the upset at home?

#15 Texas A&M (5-1) at #24 Ole Miss (5-2), 6 pm ESPN
Comment: Ole Miss giving A&M a second loss would be a good thing.

#3 Utah at USC, 6:30 pm FOX
Comment: Can USC get its act together and pull off the upset at home?


B1G West Games

5-2, 1-2 Northwestern at 3-4, 1-2 Nebraska, 11am ESPN2
Comment: We want N'w to win to help our SOS; agree?

5-2, 2-1 Wisconsin at 4-2, 1-1 Illinois, 2:30 pm BTN
Comment: We want Wisconsin to win to help our SOS, agree?

Good stuff. FWIW, I am working on a matter pending in South Carolina and spoke with a fellow attorney in Charleston today. He's a Clemson grad and a huge Clemson fan. He attended a family reunion this weekend and he told me that there was a fair amount of discussion about Clemson's chances to win the ACC and get invited to the playoffs. He also said that Iowa and its favorable schedule were a topic of a lot of discussion and a lot of concern. Iowa may not be on the national radar screen but it is on the radar screen in South Carolina.
 
I'm for a Nebraska and Wisc loss. That will go a long ways to lock up the western division. If we were to win the championship game that will give us the quality win needed to push us into the playoff. It would also go a long ways towards getting us into an almost guaranteed quality bowl game at year end. This gives us breathing room

If we win out it won't make any difference. We will have done everything we could to position ourselves.
 
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I'm one who likes to make sure nothing is left to chance, when the opportunity allows for it.

I don't give a damn about SOS and arguing about the CFB playoff and if we'll get left out and how we need quality wins "posthumously"......I just want to get to the damn championship game. If that meant every other team magically going 0-12 so that Iowa could go 12-0, I would take that, steal a fast car and drive off into the Alaskan wilderness so that you couldn't take that away from me.

Ohio State won Big Ten titles for years off of other teams' misfortunes. Alabama backed into a couple national title games off of other teams' misfortunes. Why does it need to solely be on us to win, when other teams at the top operate by different standards? And I understand that in a perfect world we want to have the best looking resume and there's nothing to worry about, but the fact is there's still a lot of football left to be played and like I said before.....I'd rather not leave things to chance.

So with that said:

-Illinois go ahead and beat Wisconsin
-Northwestern go ahead and finish off Nebraska
-Ohio State has started to show their true colors now so they'll probably dominate everyone like the uber awesome supreme Super Bowl champions that they're suppose to be.....because f*** Ohio State.
-Penn State should beat Maryland but Maryland and Rutgers have made a point to treat this game like Iowa State treats the Iowa game. Records don't matter. Talent level is thrown out the window. Probably gonna be an ugly, close contest. But PSU needs to win.
-MSU can go ahead and beat Indiana so that they don't gain confidence, and turn to our game as their best last shot to get a marquee win.

Thank you.
 
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B1G Games on Saturday:
Wisconsin at Illinois
Northwestern at Nebraska
Indiana at Michigan State
Penn State at Maryland
Ohio State at Rutgers

What's driving my thought process? (1) What benefits Iowa overall? (2) What benefits the B1G overall?

Wisconsin/Illinois - Given all of the negative publicity surrounding Iowa's remaining schedule, I firmly believe that it will need to be able to point to quality wins at the end of the year. Wisconsin still has a national reputation. While I fully understand that, if Wisconsin keeps winning, the heat remains on Iowa to win, I think that all of us are now looking at big prizes at the end of the year. And, those big prizes are far more reachable if Wisconsin continues to win and gets back into the rankings. If Iowa ends up being the B1G West champion ahead of a 10-2 Wisconsin team which has only lost to Alabama and Iowa, I'm just fine with that result. Not only do I think Wisconsin will win, I'll be pulling for Wisconsin to do so..

Northwestern at Nebraska - Northwestern has solid wins against Pac12 Stanford and ACC Duke. It has been embarrassed by B1G Michigan and Iowa. Nebraska has zero "solid" wins this year (calling Minnesota a "solid" win right now is a stretch) and losses to two ACC Miami and Indy BYU along with two other opponents common to Iowa - Illinois and Wisconsin. Even if Nebraska beats Northwestern, I don't see them being any better than 6-5 going into the last game of the year - I don't see them beating Michigan State. If my goal is to have Iowa's wins look as impressive as possible at year's end and to avoid a "lump of mediocrity" in the B1G West, I'm hoping that Northwestern turns things around and finishes 9-3. Personally, I think that Nebraska is better than its record suggests and I think that Nebraska is going to beat up on Northwestern this weekend. Northwestern's offense is simply abyssmal and, despite Nebraska's struggles against the pass, I don't see Northwestern posing much of a passing threat. Thorson is just not good right now. I think that Nebraska wins but I will be rooting for Northwestern.

Penn State at Maryland - I frankly don't really care other than I don't want to see Maryland have a great game and suddenly "find themselves." So . . I guess that I'm rooting for Penn State to issue a beat down so that Maryland comes into Iowa City on 10/31 feeling pretty badly about themselves and mentally defeated before the kick off. I'm pretty confident that PSU wins the game easily.

Ohio State at Rutgers - Ohio State is this year's version of Florida State. They simply have not looked interested and haven't played up to the level of talent on the roster. As fun as it would be to see Urban Meyer lose to Rutgers, that wouldn't bode well for the B1G's reputation. And, when looking at the potential for a big year-end prize for Iowa, it would be much better for OSU to continue to sit on top of the rankings. I cannot envision OSU losing this game and, as much as it pains me, I'm hoping that OSU wins.

Indiana at Michigan State - Strange as it may seem, this is the one game that pains me this weekend. Very conflicting viewpoints; definite yin/yang possibilities. Indiana has under performed its expectations this year and, despite Indiana's embarrassing loss to Rutgers on Saturday, the game on 11/7 in Bloomington scares me to death. I'm not sure that I want Indiana to find its mojo against MSU, followed by a bye week to rest up, get healthy and scheme for the game against Iowa. After giving OSU a close game, Indiana was embarrassed by PSU and Rutgers. They are definitely trending down. An upset win over MSU might result in Iowa facing a rejuvenated team. On the other hand, I wouldn't mind seeing MSU drop a game before it plays OSU in Columbus (I'm inclined to think that OSU wins that game). I'm of the mindset that Iowa's chances for a big year-end prize are enhanced if MSU does NOT go 11-1 with its only loss coming at the hands of #1 OSU - particularly if it was a hard fought, close battle. In that vein, I wouldn't mind seeing Indiana hand MSU a loss. So . . as of now . . I see MSU winning at home and I'm leaning towards pulling for MSU to win. I'm going to hold out hope that Iowa can win the B1G West, that MSU somehow beats OSU to win the B1G East . . . as currently structured, I think that Iowa could give MSU one hell of a battle in Indianapolis.
Please --- "For whom to root." Ending your sentence in a preposition. Shameful. I see this sort of sentence structure on the Purdue board. Al Davis would say, "Just win, baby!"
 
Wisconsin needs to win so that we can have a solid road victory against a top rated opponent
Northwestern so that our victory is not swept under the rug and I don't think I can ever hope for Nebby win
Maryland because we do not play PSU and the whole shower room thing
Ohio State needs to win out so we can play them in title game
Indiana bc we do not play MSU and MSU recruits similar players

A+ analysis. Since our strongest argument for SOS runs through Madison and Evanston, we should want Badgers and Cats to win out (except when they play each other of course). The more impressive they are, the more impressive we are.
 
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We want Wisconsin and Northwestern to win the rest of their games so we can claim more quality wins (same with Pittsburgh). I also want Ohio State to lose because I would prefer to play anyone else in the Big10 championship game. And I want MSU and Michigan to each lose at some point too just so we are the obvious choice for the Rose Bowl if we lose the Big10 championship game. It would be a real bummer to win the West and not at least get into the RoseBowl because they pick someone else instead of us.
 
Please --- "For whom to root." Ending your sentence in a preposition. Shameful. I see this sort of sentence structure on the Purdue board. Al Davis would say, "Just win, baby!"

Give the guy a break. I was impressed that he used "whom" correctly. Most of the time when someone tries using it on this and other message boards, it's used incorrectly.
 
IF Wisconsin losses again and Nebraska wins out..plus a loss somewhere for the Hawks..we would be playing Nebby for the BIG 10 championship. .

Huh? I don't think so. We are both in the same division.

Besides, Neb is NOT going to win out. We have a MUCH better chance of that than they do.
 
Huh? I don't think so. We are both in the same division.

Besides, Neb is NOT going to win out. We have a MUCH better chance of that than they do.

I believe what he was trying to say is if Nebby wins out and the Hawks stub their toe along the way that our game with Nebby might become the division championship game, although tiebreakers might come into play with a 3rd or even 4th team at that point...
 
Please --- "For whom to root." Ending your sentence in a preposition. Shameful. I see this sort of sentence structure on the Purdue board. Al Davis would say, "Just win, baby!"

Spare me the Internet Grammar Police routine. I spend the majority of my day drafting, revising and ensuring that my written product and the written product of others is acceptable. Posting on an Internet message board is a release from the rigidity of those constraints. Forgive me for concentrating more on Iowa's competition and the upcoming games than on whether the thread title is grammatically correct.

And, for what what it is worth, the original title was posed as a question. Thus, it should read "For whom to root?" not "For whom to root." Further, no one on the Purdue board would have used the word "whom." They would have used "who."
 
I think it depends if you are wanting to have Iowa back in on the West Division title, or want us to be rated the highest possible.

I tend to want some wiggle room, as I feel if we run the table and are 13-0 and Big Ten champs, we would be in the 4 team National playoff. Can't believe I just typed the last part of that sentence.

I had a post written about how there's no way an undefeated Iowa BIG champ gets left out of the playoff. I believe that.... but it's like arguing a 3rd party presidential candidate would fix the country

What I'll say is your post is the correct position. Rankings will work themselves out - a division title is all that matters
 
We shouldn't drop more than 1 game, so root for the teams who help our SOS cause (even ISU). And if we do lose more than 1 game with the remaining schedule, we don't deserve to be in the BTT.
 
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Just so everyone is clear, our goal at this point is not the Rose Bowl. It would be a nice consolation prize though.


History tells me that we wont go unbeaten. I am being realistic. Yes, I would much rather be in the playoff.
 
I don't see Iowa in NCAA playoff series, so to me the question is how do we get to the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl is not part of the playoff’s this year. If Ohio State makes the final four, it opens up the Rose Bowl for another BIG team. Unfortunately, the Rose Bowl has a great deal of discretion in selecting who goes. The guidelines say they will generally pick the highest rated BIG team, but they aren’t required. to. There are other factors. It’s all spelled out on the BIG’s website. At this point, I would guess their pick would be Michigan State. With Iowa getting to the Rose Bowl being the goal, this is who I would like to see win this weekend, and down the road:

Wisconsin over Illinois. If Wisconsin runs the table from here on out, my guess is we would be still be selected over them with their two losses. We would be the higher ranked team and traditionally Iowa fans travel well. Also, the more wins Wisconsin has, the greater the quality of our win.

Northwestern at Nebraska. I favor Northwestern for the same reason. I’d like to see them run the table. It makes our victory over them a higher quality win. And any way you cut it, Nebraska is out of the hunt.

Penn State at Maryland. I don’t much care who wins this game. Penn State is out of the running for the BIG CG, not ranked and out of the Rose Bowl hunt. Not much to say about Maryland.

Ohio State at Rutgers. I would like to see Ohio State win out with the exception of a loss to Iowa in the BIG CG. (Yeah, sure.) An undefeated OSU makes the conference look stronger and pulls them out of the Rose Bowl into the NCAA playoff series. I don’t think a single loss to OSU in the BIG CG would keep Iowa out of the Rose Bowl, subject to what happens with MSU.

Indiana vs. Michigan State. I favor Indiana. Fat chance they’ll win over MSU but we need to see a couple of Michigan State losses to pave our way to the Rose Bowl. I expect MSU will lose to OSU. I’m not sure we’ll see another MSU loss.

The sad thing about the way the Michigan - MSU game ended is what the MSU win did to our Rose Bowl chances. With that win, it could come down to the Rose Bowl deciding between a “one loss Iowa” and a “one loss Michigan State”. With both teams having lost to OSU, MSU will be the higher ranked team and my guess is they’ll be off to the Rose Bowl.

But for the botched Michigan punt, the Rose Bowl choice would have been between a higher ranked “one loss Iowa” vs. a “lower ranked two loss MSU”.
 
I don't see Iowa in NCAA playoff series, so to me the question is how do we get to the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl is not part of the playoff’s this year. If Ohio State makes the final four, it opens up the Rose Bowl for another BIG team. Unfortunately, the Rose Bowl has a great deal of discretion in selecting who goes. The guidelines say they will generally pick the highest rated BIG team, but they aren’t required. to. There are other factors. It’s all spelled out on the BIG’s website. At this point, I would guess their pick would be Michigan State. With Iowa getting to the Rose Bowl being the goal, this is who I would like to see win this weekend, and down the road:

Wisconsin over Illinois. If Wisconsin runs the table from here on out, my guess is we would be still be selected over them with their two losses. We would be the higher ranked team and traditionally Iowa fans travel well. Also, the more wins Wisconsin has, the greater the quality of our win.

Northwestern at Nebraska. I favor Northwestern for the same reason. I’d like to see them run the table. It makes our victory over them a higher quality win. And any way you cut it, Nebraska is out of the hunt.

Penn State at Maryland. I don’t much care who wins this game. Penn State is out of the running for the BIG CG, not ranked and out of the Rose Bowl hunt. Not much to say about Maryland.

Ohio State at Rutgers. I would like to see Ohio State win out with the exception of a loss to Iowa in the BIG CG. (Yeah, sure.) An undefeated OSU makes the conference look stronger and pulls them out of the Rose Bowl into the NCAA playoff series. I don’t think a single loss to OSU in the BIG CG would keep Iowa out of the Rose Bowl, subject to what happens with MSU.

Indiana vs. Michigan State. I favor Indiana. Fat chance they’ll win over MSU but we need to see a couple of Michigan State losses to pave our way to the Rose Bowl. I expect MSU will lose to OSU. I’m not sure we’ll see another MSU loss.

The sad thing about the way the Michigan - MSU game ended is what the MSU win did to our Rose Bowl chances. With that win, it could come down to the Rose Bowl deciding between a “one loss Iowa” and a “one loss Michigan State”. With both teams having lost to OSU, MSU will be the higher ranked team and my guess is they’ll be off to the Rose Bowl.

But for the botched Michigan punt, the Rose Bowl choice would have been between a higher ranked “one loss Iowa” vs. a “lower ranked two loss MSU”.

I agree with a lot of what you wrote. One positive about Michigan's loss is that the Rose Bowl will not have the chance to consider a two loss Michigan team - with losses to only Utah and Ohio State. I can only imagine the Rose Bowl selection committee being awfully excited about a Michigan/Stanford match-up. The Harbaugh connection would be a strong draw.
 
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I have to believe that with road games at Northwestern and at MSU, that Nebraska will be out of the hunt before they play us.
 
I agree with a lot of what you wrote. One positive about Michigan's loss is that the Rose Bowl will not have the chance to consider a two loss Michigan team - with losses to only Utah and Ohio State. I can only imagine the Rose Bowl selection committee being awfully excited about a Michigan/Stanford match-up. The Harbaugh connection would be a strong draw.

Good point. I didn't think about that angle.
 
Spare me the Internet Grammar Police routine. I spend the majority of my day drafting, revising and ensuring that my written product and the written product of others is acceptable. Posting on an Internet message board is a release from the rigidity of those constraints. Forgive me for concentrating more on Iowa's competition and the upcoming games than on whether the thread title is grammatically correct.

And, for what what it is worth, the original title was posed as a question. Thus, it should read "For whom to root?" not "For whom to root." Further, no one on the Purdue board would have used the word "whom." They would have used "who."

Root for whom?

Rutgers over t OSU would be great. Sell lots of ads in NYC, start with that. t OSU national titles are good for B1G, but that means Hawk ceiling is lose well, NYD bowl. If t OSU is not going to win the title, and they haven't played that good, f em, pretty tired of the Urban never loses a game B1G.
 
Want Illinois to beat Wisky and N'western to beat Nebraska. Would put Wisconsin and N'western 2 teams we beat with 2 losses with a strangle hold on that tie breaker for the Hawks and all but eliminate Nebraska with 3 losses from the West. Plus Huskers still have game vs Mich St. Illinois would have 1 loss but still has Ohio St and Wisconsin so chalk up at least another loss for them. Minnesota 2 losses already and still has Michigan, OSU, Iowa, Illinois and Wisky. They've gone from pre season west contender to just hoping to qualify for a bowl. Just want the Hawks to win the West and play in Indy.

As for SOS media and everyone else already ripping on it so don't think a 10-2 Wisconsin vs 9-3 Badger team would make a huge difference. If Pitt keeps doing well helps but end of the day all that would matter is how Iowa would fare if it makes the title game vs Ohio St or Mich St to the national pundits. However would love to see the loser of Mich St/OSU game drop another such as Mich St, dare I say to Nebraska who hopefully have 3 conf losses already, or OSU to Michigan. Would give Iowa a better shot at the Rose Bowl.
 
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