Edited to add various other RPI's
Link- NCAA RPI click here
Link - KPI
Link - Diamond Sport Ranking
Link - Warren Nolan
Link- NCAA RPI click here
Link - KPI
Link - Diamond Sport Ranking
Link - Warren Nolan
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I haven’t 100% extricated sports message boards from my day-to-day existence but awfully close.
Just wanted to point out that your link shows RPI as of 3/26. If Warren Nolan is tracking accurately, Iowa moved to #98 after completing the sweep yesterday. Each of the 3 wins was worth about 70-72 RPI points.
The Hawks aren’t getting much RPI help from previous opponents.
Yeah, I saw that date so not sure when the NCAA updates their RPI.
They got help today … jumped from 98 to 88.
Primarily Ohio State beating Oregon, which makes it a wash in the end.
I get that HawkeyeBacon is basically a shithole, but you're always welcome to post here on the baseball threads. You and @GolfHacker1 are a really good source of information and I think I can speak for all of in saying "Thanks!"
Not sure I’m “tracking” your point.
OSU pulled off a sweep today. Not only RPI help but Iowa has a 2 game lead on Oregon now in B1G race. I see that as win/win.
I may be misunderstanding your meaning of “tracking,” but I think he’s suggesting since Iowa plays a 3 game series against Oregon later this year; eventually the win by OSU will offset the RPI bump by Iowa playing Oregon. Making it a “wash in the end.”
Gotcha.
Not worried about Oregon’s RPI. They’ll be a very solid team through the rest of the season.
If Iowa wants to enter realistic discussion for post-season, they’ll need to finish top 3 in B1G, win at least one, if not both, OSU and Oregon series to close season, and have a good B1G tourney showing.
I’m thinking it’ll take no worse than a 12-6 finish (end up no worse than 22-8) finish in the top 3.
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Pretty great progress. Oregon certainly took a major hit which kind of gave us an advanced bump. Wazzu will dog us until the bitter end but USF has been really good, so that helps.
There’s no doubt that Oregon USC and UCLA are lifting all boats and raising some of the other teams into higher quads than they used to be. There’s a lot to still play out but 5 bids for the B1G seems realistic.
There’s no doubt that Oregon USC and UCLA are lifting all boats and raising some of the other teams into higher quads than they used to be. There’s a lot to still play out but 5 bids for the B1G seems realistic.
Nolan has Iowa at 80 after yesterday's convincing road win.
Remaining weekend schedule, Nolan's RPI, game location, quad designation as of the time of this post:
Northwestern - 121 - (A) - Q3 (RPI of 120 would be a Q2)
Nebraska - 82 - (H) - Q3
Michigan - 51 - (A) - Q1
Indiana - 103 - (H) - Q4 (RPI of 100 would be a Q3)
Washington - 133 - (A) - Q3
Oregon State - 21 - (N) - Q1
Oregon - 63 - (H) - Q3 (RPI of 50 would be a Q2)
After the debacle that was WSU, about the best that we (as fans) could be hoping for would be for Iowa to have the opportunity to play its way into the discussion for an at-large bid. Say what you will about what Rutgers, Michigan State, Ohio State, and Minnesota bring to the field, I wholeheartedly believe that Iowa has given itself a chance to enter the at-large discussion and, to a large extent, controls its destiny.
And, seriously, even the most die hard Iowa baseball fans would have been hard pressed to opine that we'd be discussing potential at-large bids on 4/2/25.
PSA: Big 10 Network showing Iowa/NW on Saturday.
Apparently D1Baseball also feels that Iowa should be in the at-large discussion. Damn.
FWIW … in ‘24, in addition to RPI, the tournament selection committee reportedly considered KPI rankings/ratings (developed by Ken Pauga) as a factor in choosing teams.
That index can be found here: https://faktorsports.com/
Iowa is currently #55 in KPI.
For ‘25, the committee will supposedly also consider Diamond Sports Ranking as an additional factor. D1 Baseball is involved with these ratings.
The DSR can be found here: https://d1baseball.com/diamond-sports-ranking/
Iowa is currently #70 in DSR.
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That index can be found here: https://faktorsports.com/
Iowa is currently #55 in KPI.
For ‘25, the committee will supposedly also consider Diamond Sports Ranking as an additional factor. D1 Baseball is involved with these ratings.
The DSR can be found here: https://d1baseball.com/diamond-sports-ranking/
Iowa is currently #70 in DSR.
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Michigan State / Bowling Green game that was cancellation yesterday would have had an impact on Iowa's RPI depending on the outcome. Indirectly impacts all B1G teams. Not sure if that's rescheduled.
We're at the point in the season that not only does Iowa need to take care of business, but we can start to watch our opponents results for the purpose of RPI and post season chances.
We're at the point in the season that not only does Iowa need to take care of business, but we can start to watch our opponents results for the purpose of RPI and post season chances.
All we can do is hope the teams we play beat the teams we don’t. Just win a lot of games. And specifically 3 or 4 of them in May.
Went down a rabbit hole yesterday over the lunch hour . . . from what I can tell, the NCAA version of RPI and Warren Nolan's version of RPI appear to be identical.
D1Baseball's RPI is not the same: https://d1baseball.com/nitty-gritty/
The D1Baseball RPI formula currently places Iowa at #82.
As for Nolan’s site and today’s game …
Iowa win = 50 RPI points
Iowa loss = (-37) RPI points
D1Baseball's RPI is not the same: https://d1baseball.com/nitty-gritty/
The D1Baseball RPI formula currently places Iowa at #82.
As for Nolan’s site and today’s game …
Iowa win = 50 RPI points
Iowa loss = (-37) RPI points
NCAA RPI updated 4/3. Will NCAA update their RPI more often now that the season is in full swing?
Not sure about NCAA but Nolan updates in real time . . . Iowa jumps to #70 with today's shellacking of the 'Cats. Obermueller delivers a masterpiece. Didn't need the bullpen at all.
Let's see how the other impact games play out.
I've updated the OP to include your links and Warren Nolan.
Fantastic. Yesterday's win generated some solid gains in all of those metrics. Big game today with the 'Cats saving their best arms to throw this afternoon. Need Savery to bring his A game and the bats to remain hot.
Reminder . . . B1G Network broadcasting game today. Not a B1G+ broadcast.
Today:
+34 RPI points with a win
-44 RPI points with a loss
Iowa didn’t get much help yesterday (RPI or B1G standings). Ohio State gagged away a 2 run lead in B8 against USC. Michigan has rolled over and played dead against Oregon. Minnesota’s early season victories against good programs are looking more and more like a mirage.
+34 RPI points with a win
-44 RPI points with a loss
Iowa didn’t get much help yesterday (RPI or B1G standings). Ohio State gagged away a 2 run lead in B8 against USC. Michigan has rolled over and played dead against Oregon. Minnesota’s early season victories against good programs are looking more and more like a mirage.
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Washington, Oregon State and (so far) Indiana have had good weekends. Michigan and Oregon bumped higher by playing each other. Nebraska is creeping into respectability with a series win against Rutgers.
So while none of our past series opponents have proven to be any good…frankly, that’s not surprising (save USF). We’ve taken a temporary hit on our games played but it was a really good weekend for our future opponents.
Going 12-3 against these dregs wasn’t going to win any trophies, nor was 13-2 or 14-1. But it was righting the ship and getting Ws…and enough was done to give us opportunities to play our way in and more.
Of the 6 remaining series, only Washington is outside the top 100 and they are very likely to climb their way into it by playing the other 2 contenders.
I can’t remember a 2nd half schedule where the collective rankings of opponents were this solid.
So while none of our past series opponents have proven to be any good…frankly, that’s not surprising (save USF). We’ve taken a temporary hit on our games played but it was a really good weekend for our future opponents.
Going 12-3 against these dregs wasn’t going to win any trophies, nor was 13-2 or 14-1. But it was righting the ship and getting Ws…and enough was done to give us opportunities to play our way in and more.
Of the 6 remaining series, only Washington is outside the top 100 and they are very likely to climb their way into it by playing the other 2 contenders.
I can’t remember a 2nd half schedule where the collective rankings of opponents were this solid.
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Godammit. Here we go with the RPI crap again.....
I see 11-17 Minnesota is ahead of Iowa in the RPI. Also, does playing Non- D1 schools hurt?
The non D1 are simply counted as exhibition and wouldn’t hurt you if you lost either. Only D1 opponents are considered. But generally speaking we are on an island in terms of simply not having any quality opponents for midweek.
Minnesota was able to schedule a ton of ranked teams early on and has the #3 SOS in the country. Their numbers will drop a lot even within the next week. There’s still a lot of nonsensical teams immediately above us and real time RPI just doesn’t get all that accurate until May.
Ya know, you're BS explanation only resonates with @AuroraHawk and @GolfHacker1
I just want to bitch. can I at least have that?
I just look at where Iowa is at. I have a bit of understanding from Warren Nolan’s website. If you click on Iowa there is a way to see what impact Iowa games have, and what impact Iowa’s opponents games have.
Outside of that I don’t understand it.
@AuroraHawk also posted a couple of other sites where the scores impact possible post season opportunities.
We either get an at large via RPI and the other factors, or we have enough wins and a really good B1G Tournament (maybe even have to win it depending on what transpires the rest of the season). That’s what it boils down to.
Outside of that I don’t understand it.
@AuroraHawk also posted a couple of other sites where the scores impact possible post season opportunities.
We either get an at large via RPI and the other factors, or we have enough wins and a really good B1G Tournament (maybe even have to win it depending on what transpires the rest of the season). That’s what it boils down to.
+18 RPI points with win today
-59 RPI points with loss today
Get those bats going again and pitchers need to throw strikes. Good gloves all over the field on D.
Had a lunch time meeting cancel today. In light of @Alum-Ni 's post quoting D1 Baseball as thinking the B1G, for now, has a RPI problem but they expect 4 teams to be invited to the dance, I intend to jump into Warren Nolan's site to look at Conference RPI and where all teams are trending.
@BeepBeepInMyJeep 's post is well-reasoned. The SOS for the Hawks is back-loaded this year. Plenty of opportunity for "statement" games or "statement" series.
-59 RPI points with loss today
Get those bats going again and pitchers need to throw strikes. Good gloves all over the field on D.
Had a lunch time meeting cancel today. In light of @Alum-Ni 's post quoting D1 Baseball as thinking the B1G, for now, has a RPI problem but they expect 4 teams to be invited to the dance, I intend to jump into Warren Nolan's site to look at Conference RPI and where all teams are trending.
@BeepBeepInMyJeep 's post is well-reasoned. The SOS for the Hawks is back-loaded this year. Plenty of opportunity for "statement" games or "statement" series.
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Appreciate this, we have a good dedicated group educating us here! I do go down that dreaded RPI rabbit hole myself usually in May when Iowa is fluctuating between 50-75 RPI. WarrenNolan is a good site but can drag you into some interesting analytic nightmares as games are played and common opponents are squaring off. Simply put, just keep stacking series victories and do some damage in Big Ten tournament, hard to keep a team out with 30+ wins.
Posting this as Iowa heads to T5 up 5-0 on UW-Milwaukee.
Found the following interesting during my lunch hour "perusing."
The B1G is listed as the conference with the 4th best overall RPI.
The SEC is first, ACC is second, Big 12 is third.
In an iteration of "predicted" finish, Nolan's site listed the following:
Oregon (RPI 23) - 23-7 in B1G play
Iowa (RPI 56) - 21-9 in B1G play
UCLA (RPI 13) - 21-9 in B1G play
Indiana (RPI 33) - 19-11 in B1G play
USC (RPI 30) - 19-11 in B1G play
It's somewhat of a fool's errand to read too much into the above with 50% of the season left to play and so many variables in play. And, as pointed out in past years, Nolan's predicted results vary day-to-day.
(Guerin just launched a bomb. 6-0 Iowa)
15 B1G games left. 5 series. As others have posted, just take care of the business in front of you and the rest will likely take care of itself. Finish in the top 4 of the standings and get to the final weekend of the B1G tournament and we will be watching the selection show with interest.
(Strohmeyer just launched a 3 run bomb. 9-0 Iowa)
Found the following interesting during my lunch hour "perusing."
The B1G is listed as the conference with the 4th best overall RPI.
The SEC is first, ACC is second, Big 12 is third.
In an iteration of "predicted" finish, Nolan's site listed the following:
Oregon (RPI 23) - 23-7 in B1G play
Iowa (RPI 56) - 21-9 in B1G play
UCLA (RPI 13) - 21-9 in B1G play
Indiana (RPI 33) - 19-11 in B1G play
USC (RPI 30) - 19-11 in B1G play
It's somewhat of a fool's errand to read too much into the above with 50% of the season left to play and so many variables in play. And, as pointed out in past years, Nolan's predicted results vary day-to-day.
(Guerin just launched a bomb. 6-0 Iowa)
15 B1G games left. 5 series. As others have posted, just take care of the business in front of you and the rest will likely take care of itself. Finish in the top 4 of the standings and get to the final weekend of the B1G tournament and we will be watching the selection show with interest.
(Strohmeyer just launched a 3 run bomb. 9-0 Iowa)
+22 RPI points with a win
(-71) RPI points with a loss
By comparison, Nebraska is:
+64 RPI points with a win
(-16) RPI points with a loss
As currently structured, Iowa (RPI 80) won’t catch Nebraska (RPI 75) in the RPI standings unless they sweep the series.
Welcome to RPI home/away weighting of games.
(-71) RPI points with a loss
By comparison, Nebraska is:
+64 RPI points with a win
(-16) RPI points with a loss
As currently structured, Iowa (RPI 80) won’t catch Nebraska (RPI 75) in the RPI standings unless they sweep the series.
Welcome to RPI home/away weighting of games.
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Is there really that big of a difference for home/away, that RPI needs to have games extremely weighted for baseball?
I get basketball and football, where crowd affects the games, but college baseball?
Of course, I could be easily convinced by evidence showing there is a significant difference.
Incredible pitching battle last night.
+19 RPI points with a win
(-72) RPI points with a loss
Iowa actually dropped one slot in RPI standings last night.
+19 RPI points with a win
(-72) RPI points with a loss
Iowa actually dropped one slot in RPI standings last night.
