Oh, so NOW the pinheads at NPR decide to "be honest" about Keystone XL

[The Tradition]

*sigh* I think you have completely lost track of the discussion. The point of fighting KXL was to prevent expansion of capacity because that will prevent expansion of production. You claimed that wasn't true...that production would go up as soon as prices rebounded.

I have now demonstrated that even when prices were high, oil companies were fighting to make a profit on tar sands SOLELY due to capacity issues and certainly weren't looking to grow production. That indicates that pipeline capacity limits WILL limit exploitation of tar sands resources even at higher price points. Which - full circle now - is why environmental groups were fighting KXL in the first place.

Understand now?

And I'm saying the envirowhackos might slow production down, but it will still eventually be extracted and sold when the prices are high enough to justify higher transportation costs.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

And I'm saying the envirowhackos might slow production down, but it will still eventually be extracted and sold when the prices are high enough to justify higher transportation costs.

No, they won't. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? They were getting killed at $95/barrel. Nobody was looking to expand in that environment absent SOME INCREASE IN PIPELINE CAPACITY. It doesn't make sense to produce more oil that you can't get on the market...except in your weird world.

 

[The Tradition]

No, they won't. Why is this so difficult for you to understand? They were getting killed at $95/barrel. Nobody was looking to expand in that environment absent SOME INCREASE IN PIPELINE CAPACITY. It doesn't make sense to produce more oil that you can't get on the market...except in your weird world.

Fine, declare internet victory if you want, but in the history of the world, no one has ever let a lack of capacity slow them down for long. New capacity will be built, with or without Obama.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Fine, declare internet victory if you want, but in the history of the world, no one has ever let a lack of capacity slow them down for long. New capacity will be built, with or without Obama.

Really? Well, it won't be KXL for the time being and Canadian groups are already geared up to fight pipelines across Canada. Lack of capacity WILL prevent the explotation of tar sands oil. You can refuse to believe it all you want. That doesn't change the fact that it's true.

The truly funny thing is that it isn't even in dispute...yet you feel obliged to dispute it. Odd.

 

[The Tradition]

Lol, okay, you win.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Lol, okay, you win.

No, I was right. I didn't "win" anything.

 

[The Tradition]

I didn't "win" anything.

Yes, I know.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Yes, I know.

LOL...so you agree I was right a second time? You're making progress.

 

[The Tradition]

LOL...so you agree I was right a second time? You're making progress.

Only in your own mind.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Only in your own mind.

Snappy AND original.