Okay Trump backers - Biden passed the baton up 2% on the S&P, where do we end up 12/31/25?

[Tenacious E]

Market has been on a heater for 2+ years, and it is up 2% through biden’s term in 2025. I assume many here who voted for trump did so not because he’s a swell guy, but because of anticipated financial considerations. Where do we end up? A three peat of 20%+?

 

[SIXERS24]

The Better question is where we will be in 2027 and 2028 when the policies have been in place for more than a year.

 

[Tenacious E]

The Better question is where we will be in 2027 and 2028 when the policies have been in place for more than a year.

Perhaps. Or perhaps the game conditions for comparison will be never be closer.

 

[DFSNOLE]

The Dow is up 45% over Biden's term. Who wants to bet we won't see 63,056 in January 2029?

 

[ericram]

Biff and his group of morons will figure a way out to F it up.

 

[Tenacious E]

The Dow is up 45% over Biden's term. Who wants to bet we won't see 63,056 in January 2029?

Over the last 9 years, I think the average return is about 12%. If Trump is average he can hit that. Rooting for him on that front.

 

[DFSNOLE]

Over the last 9 years, I think the average return is about 12%. If Trump is average he can hit that. Rooting for him on that front.

That post was for Northern who made a point of saying both the Dow and S&P were outperformed over the last 4 years compared to Trump's first term. I asked him if he was willing to make the same bet. As usual, showed his cowardice and didn't respond.

 

[DogBoyRy]

Market has been on a heater for 2+ years, and it is up 2% through biden’s term in 2025. I assume many here who voted for trump did so not because he’s a swell guy, but because of anticipated financial considerations. Where do we end up? A three peat of 20%+?

I’d be happy with 8% and 2% inflation

 

[DFSNOLE]

I’d be happy with 8% and 2% inflation

You have 16% and 2.7% inflation now. You should be ecstatic.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

Over the last 9 years, I think the average return is about 12%. If Trump is average he can hit that. Rooting for him on that front.

Be nice. Planning on retiring in 2+ years.

 

[Hock-I]

Market has been on a heater for 2+ years, and it is up 2% through biden’s term in 2025. I assume many here who voted for trump did so not because he’s a swell guy, but because of anticipated financial considerations. Where do we end up? A three peat of 20%+?

I think you might have missed why Trump was swept back into office. Decent amount of his voters are not participating in the markets. The wealthy did INCREDIBLY well during Biden, the middle class and poor did not. What matters to many Trumpers are things like - can I buy groceries for the month and still have money in the account or can I afford a home. Not how much return can I make in my excess income.

 

[DogBoyRy]

You have 16% and 2.7% inflation now. You should be ecstatic.

If all my assets were tied to index funds yes.
Those that have both fixed and variable might not realize a full 16%.
Again - 8 market, 2 inflation is fine.

 

[Tom Paris]

You have 16% and 2.7% inflation now. You should be ecstatic.

You have to hold these guys’ hands on everything.

 

[onlyTheObvious]

I think you might have missed why Trump was swept back into office. Decent amount of his voters are not participating in the markets. The wealthy did INCREDIBLY well during Biden, the middle class and poor did not. What matters to many Trumpers are things like - can I buy groceries for the month and still have money in the account or can I afford a home. Not how much return can I make in my excess income.

Most the middle class have 401k with market exposure.
the poor don’t have any savings so it doesn’t matter. You would have to be a financial dumbass to not be in the market. It’s a long term proven winner.

 

[DFSNOLE]

If all my assets were tied to index funds yes.
Those that have both fixed and variable might not realize a full 16%.
Again - 8 market, 2 inflation is fine.

The Dow rose 16% this year (market).

 

[Tenacious E]

The Dow rose 16% this year (market).

Actually, I consider the s&p to be the market and it’s been up 25% and 26% the last two years.

 

[DogBoyRy]

The Dow rose 16% this year (market).

Thanks captain. I wish all my assets were up that much last year.
Do you understand the difference between fixed and variable assets?
Asking for a friend.

 

[Hammerhead02]

I’d be happy with 8% and 2% inflation

2 percent inflation is bad for the economy. I hope you are just joking around, Mr. Economics.

 

[Hock-I]

Most the middle class have 401k with market exposure.
the poor don’t have any savings so it doesn’t matter. You would have to be a financial dumbass to not be in the market. It’s a long term proven winner.

Sure - a lot of employed have 401k plans, but a surprising amount don’t invest the max or even take advantage of the matching. The top 10% income earners account for 90% of the stock market - so while there are a lot of participants, a small percentage own the wealth and capitalize on the gains much more.

 

[Hammerhead02]

Thanks captain. I wish all my assets were up that much last year.
Do you understand the difference between fixed and variable assets?
Asking for a friend.

Sounds like you aren't good at this market thing.

 

[Here_4_a_Day]

Market has been on a heater for 2+ years, and it is up 2% through biden’s term in 2025. I assume many here who voted for trump did so not because he’s a swell guy, but because of anticipated financial considerations. Where do we end up? A three peat of 20%+?

Enjoy Monday you dumb bitch! 😂🤡🌭

 

[DogBoyRy]

Sure - a lot of employed have 401k plans, but a surprising amount don’t invest the max or even take advantage of the matching. The top 10% income earners account for 90% of the stock market - so while there are a lot of participants, a small percentage own the wealth and capitalize on the gains much more.

The top 10% own 90 of household stocks, not total.

 

[DogBoyRy]

Sounds like you aren't good at this market thing.

Done fine but thanks for your concern.

 

[Tom Paris]

I assume I will just be buying more stock the next 4 years when Trump shits the bed and the market drops.

 

[Hammerhead02]

Done fine but thanks for your concern.

Are you sure? You don't sound like it. I guess that 2 percent inflation rate is great for the economy. You is smart.

 

[Hock-I]

The top 10% own 90 of household stocks, not total.

The wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of stocks even with market participation at a record high

America's richest have never owned so much of the country's stock market, according to Federal Reserve data.

markets.businessinsider.com

 

[DFSNOLE]

Thanks captain. I wish all my assets were up that much last year.
Do you understand the difference between fixed and variable assets?
Asking for a friend.

Please indicate where in your initial post you made that qualification. It's okay to admit you did well during the Biden administration.

I’d be happy with 8% and 2% inflation

 

[Hock-I]

The wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of stocks even with market participation at a record high

America's richest have never owned so much of the country's stock market, according to Federal Reserve data.

markets.businessinsider.com

The top 10% did INCREDIBLY well under the Biden admin. So did Joe and Hunter too.

 

[Tenacious E]

I think you might have missed why Trump was swept back into office. Decent amount of his voters are not participating in the markets. The wealthy did INCREDIBLY well during Biden, the middle class and poor did not. What matters to many Trumpers are things like - can I buy groceries for the month and still have money in the account or can I afford a home. Not how much return can I make in my excess income.

My post addressed those here on HORT and not garden variety MAGAts, and we here are all loaded and in the market.

 

[Hawky4361]

I assume I will just be buying more stock the next 4 years when Trump shits the bed and the market drops.

You'll have to sell your trailer...

 

[DogBoyRy]

Please indicate where in your initial post you made that qualification. It's okay to admit you did well during the Biden administration.

Read the second sentence.

 

[MitchLL]

Trump comes in with another good economy, just like the first term.

You just know he's going to fvck it up again.

It's what happens during Republican administrations.

 

[Hock-I]

My post addressed those here on HORT and not garden variety MAGAts, and we here are all loaded and in the market.

Congratulations on your success!

 

[DFSNOLE]

Read the second sentence.

There is no second sentence. Post #8.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Market has been on a heater for 2+ years, and it is up 2% through biden’s term in 2025. I assume many here who voted for trump did so not because he’s a swell guy, but because of anticipated financial considerations. Where do we end up? A three peat of 20%+?

I recommend saying ok rapist, 34 felonies, ripping off of charities, 3 times divorced, 5 times bankrupt, impeached twice failed President and leader of an insurrection terrorist Idiots over Trump backers.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

I recommend saying ok rapist, 34 felonies, ripping off of charities, 3 times divorced, 5 times bankrupt, impeached twice failed President and leader of an insurrection terrorist Idiots over Trump backers.

Raferochardddbankedtiodloit just doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Raferochardddbankedtiodloit just doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

[Chishawk1425]

I'm laughing at you, @libbity bibbity dunce. What I said about Trump is literally fact and also that you're a dunce.

 

[artradley]

I think you might have missed why Trump was swept back into office. Decent amount of his voters are not participating in the markets. The wealthy did INCREDIBLY well during Biden, the middle class and poor did not. What matters to many Trumpers are things like - can I buy groceries for the month and still have money in the account or can I afford a home. Not how much return can I make in my excess income.

The single biggest thing his fanboys bragged about during his four years was how well the market was doing, and how much their 401ks went up.

Things did even better under Biden, so you’re making up new excuses for why you support the most vile, disgusting, emotionally immature man ever to hold office. You love him because he’s an asshole. Everything g else is just your excuse.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

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You going to make it? 5pm is pretty early for you to be on this track.