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Okay Trump backers - Biden passed the baton up 2% on the S&P, where do we end up 12/31/25?

I recommend saying ok rapist, 34 felonies, ripping off of charities, 3 times divorced, 5 times bankrupt, impeached twice failed President and leader of an insurrection terrorist Idiots over Trump backers.
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The single biggest thing his fanboys bragged about during his four years was how well the market was doing, and how much their 401ks went up.

Things did even better under Biden, so you’re making up new excuses for why you support the most vile, disgusting, emotionally immature man ever to hold office. You love him because he’s an asshole. Everything g else is just your excuse.
You “should” be happy. You are in the party of the elite. But the latest poll on dems shows:

77% are scared
69% are angry
67% are depressed

You demonstrate all the signs. The good news is you can add these to your pronouns.
 
Biff and his group of morons will figure a way out to F it up.

Every republican president since 1968 has made a shambles of the economy in one way or another. Cheeto's first term crash was massive. Bankruptcies are his thing. Expect a crash worse than his previous one.
 
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Did Covid-19 shutdown across the entire world not happen? It was just bad economic policy by Trump instead?

He completely bungled the response to covid just as you would expect someone who was handed everything in life and had six bankruptcies under his belt would do. He is so incredibly inept that he will find a way to make the next one worse.
 
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That post was for Northern who made a point of saying both the Dow and S&P were outperformed over the last 4 years compared to Trump's first term. I asked him if he was willing to make the same bet. As usual, showed his cowardice and didn't respond.

The S&P and DOW performed better from 2017-2020 than it did from 2021-2024.
 
I think you might have missed why Trump was swept back into office. Decent amount of his voters are not participating in the markets. The wealthy did INCREDIBLY well during Biden, the middle class and poor did not. What matters to many Trumpers are things like - can I buy groceries for the month and still have money in the account or can I afford a home. Not how much return can I make in my excess income.
It will be interesting who gets targeted in his tax bill. Do you think the help will largely focus on those middle class and poor that swept him into office? I’m skeptical.
 
I recommend saying ok rapist, 34 felonies, ripping off of charities, 3 times divorced, 5 times bankrupt, impeached twice failed President and leader of an insurrection terrorist Idiots over Trump backers.
With all due respect Chis, the backers think all that stuff was made up by Biden. Thank right wing media for that.
 
Did Covid-19 shutdown across the entire world not happen? It was just bad economic policy by Trump instead?
This is where I hate partisan people. COVID absolutely killed the stock market for Trump. It also left Biden with insane inflation. Are there things each one could have done better around the situation: Trump (PPP fraud, no travel response at all when it started), Biden (trying to push a $3T Spending bill), yes. But, people that say Trump is absolved because of COVID but scream about Biden and inflation are absolute partisan idiots.
 
This is where I hate partisan people. COVID absolutely killed the stock market for Trump. It also left Biden with insane inflation. Are there things each one could have done better around the situation: Trump (PPP fraud, no travel response at all when it started), Biden (trying to push a $3T Spending bill), yes. But, people that say Trump is absolved because of COVID but scream about Biden and inflation are absolute partisan idiots.
I can agree with most of that. When you look at Trump you have study what he did in 17-19 not the black swan event of 2020.

Remember Trumps initial plan was to reopen the U.S. economy at Easter which would have avoided everything that happened downstream of caving to pushback on that. He was talked out of that so that is Trump’s fault.

Biden brought on the inflation himself by blasting one more unnecessary Covid stimulus into the economy when people were already flush with cash.
 
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I can agree with most of that. When you look at Trump you have study what he did in 17-19 not the black swan event of 2020.

Remember Trumps initial plan was to reopen the U.S. economy at Easter which would have avoided everything that happened downstream of caving to pushback on that. He was talked out of that so that is Trump’s fault.

Biden brought on the inflation himself by blasting one more unnecessary Covid stimulus into the economy when people were already flush with cash.
On that last point, looking internationally, there was inflation everywhere. If you take away the IRA, maybe inflation peaks a bit lower than it peaked but no way was it going to stop at like 3% and come back. His huge potential spending adder got voted down by Manchin thankfully, so it didn’t go through. I guess we can blame him for proposing it.
 
I predict down but it would go down no matter the president.

I’ll be going cash at some point.
I’m not in the catching a falling knife game, and then trying to time when to get back in the game. I have a hard enough time winning a coin flip. I’m in the market as a whole until I’m close to retiring, and then I will be in some type of dividend fund where I don’t care as much about share price volatility.
 
I predict down but it would go down no matter the president.

I’ll be going cash at some point.
You must be really old if you are going cash. If you aren't retired then you don't understand how to invest. I would recommend a financial advisor for you.
 
Market has been on a heater for 2+ years, and it is up 2% through biden’s term in 2025. I assume many here who voted for trump did so not because he’s a swell guy, but because of anticipated financial considerations. Where do we end up? A three peat of 20%+?
Can we book mark this thread and return to it later? If the markets tank, I'm sure there will be some sort of MAGA excuse, though. Personally, I hope the damn thing soars! I'm partially retired and want to go all in the next few years! Let's go you MAGAs...now's your chance to prove the haters wrong!
 
I think you might have missed why Trump was swept back into office. Decent amount of his voters are not participating in the markets. The wealthy did INCREDIBLY well during Biden, the middle class and poor did not. What matters to many Trumpers are things like - can I buy groceries for the month and still have money in the account or can I afford a home. Not how much return can I make in my excess income.
Approximately 55% of Americans have a 401K retirement account. All of those are not considered “wealthy” but also includes middle class individuals, many of whom voted for Trump. So, yes Republicans care about stock market valuations and not just elitist Democrats. 😉
 
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