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OMG Michigan!

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This was a lesson in humility for Coach Jim Harbaugh.
His punter failed to fall on the ball and cover up his mistake.
 
Damn...Watts-Jackson dislocated his femur and fractured his hip on the lunge for the end zone. Watching the video, it looks like he came down on his knee and drove the ball of the femur up into the socket. Ouch.
 
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Glad you guys can find the enjoyment here.

5-2 with Rudock as QB in Harbaugh's first year is more than most thought it would be.
 
Why didn't they have Ruddock take the snap and run back 10 yards and fall down. Game over?
 
Glad you guys can find the enjoyment here.

5-2 with Rudock as QB in Harbaugh's first year is more than most thought it would be.

1st i dont think anyone's enjoyment has anything to do with JR being the qb at michigan. i think it has more to do with all of the chest pounding of the michigan fan base.

2nd i think JR's performance has been exactly what everyone should have expected. good not great
 
Why didn't they have Ruddock take the snap and run back 10 yards and fall down. Game over?

There were 10 seconds left, what is an average play, 6? Punter had the ball on the ground by 8 with defenders all over him. Even presuming the regular line held up longer, they were rushing with everything regardless. If he runs straight backwards at some point they are in easy FG range, the punter was already on the 40.

I mean think how long 10 seconds actually takes, the punter drops it, picks it up, tries to kick it, MSU picks it up AND runs it 35 yards for a TD....with time JUST expiring. It is a long time for one single play.

There isn't a "great" strategy for this situation. Anything they do kills the clock with a chance at a FG for the W. If he had just laid on it there would have been a, what, 55 yard field goal?

My thought was maybe a long snap to the punter (or a qb) who simply throws it as far as he can downfield, preferably out of bounds. Incomplete puts the ball at the 52 with no chance at a FG and clock runs until the ball hits the ground, right?
 
My thought was maybe a long snap to the punter (or a qb) who simply throws it as far as he can downfield, preferably out of bounds. Incomplete puts the ball at the 52 with no chance at a FG and clock runs until the ball hits the ground, right?

this is likely the smartest way to end a game. a team/coach would have to time out how many seconds it takes for a qb to take the snap scramble a little and then throw the ball as high in the air and out of bounds as possible.

i would guess that taking a fourth down snap with a slight scramble followed by a high as possible pass out of bounds will be how we start to see these close games ended in these situations.

i have long wondered how/why the guys doing tv broadcasts can come up with perfect clock management and coaches paid millions cant. the fact is these broadcasters have smart people telling them what to say about clock management at the end of the game, and most coaches rely on tradition. imhop ever coach should have a clock management/strategic coach that has nothing to do with the team what so ever during the week but is in the pressbox giving advice about clock management and other percentage type plays.
 
Look at the stats though, the dude is a poor man's Trent Dilfer.
Agree completely. He has missed a bunched of deep throws that I don't the QB's in the pipeline will. Rudock has done a great job and has done what Michigan did not do last year which is not turn the ball over.
 
1st i dont think anyone's enjoyment has anything to do with JR being the qb at michigan. i think it has more to do with all of the chest pounding of the michigan fan base.

2nd i think JR's performance has been exactly what everyone should have expected. good not great
On your first point I don't see any fan bases that don't chest pound when they are used to winning. Without a fluke mistake Michigan would be 6-1 with only a lost to the #4 ranked team on the road in their first game with a guy at QB that would not start for Iowa.

On your second point I agree completely. Which would have made a 6-1 record something to chest pound about.
 
There were 10 seconds left, what is an average play, 6? Punter had the ball on the ground by 8 with defenders all over him. Even presuming the regular line held up longer, they were rushing with everything regardless. If he runs straight backwards at some point they are in easy FG range, the punter was already on the 40.

I mean think how long 10 seconds actually takes, the punter drops it, picks it up, tries to kick it, MSU picks it up AND runs it 35 yards for a TD....with time JUST expiring. It is a long time for one single play.

There isn't a "great" strategy for this situation. Anything they do kills the clock with a chance at a FG for the W. If he had just laid on it there would have been a, what, 55 yard field goal?

My thought was maybe a long snap to the punter (or a qb) who simply throws it as far as he can downfield, preferably out of bounds. Incomplete puts the ball at the 52 with no chance at a FG and clock runs until the ball hits the ground, right?
The punt was the right call. There is a chance the clock would run out on the punt but at worst MSU has the ball on the 20 with time for 1 play. No Hail Mary to the endzone - seen that one a long time ago with Michigan and Colorado.
 
The punt was the right call. There is a chance the clock would run out on the punt but at worst MSU has the ball on the 20 with time for 1 play. No Hail Mary to the endzone - seen that one a long time ago with Michigan and Colorado.

Sure, I agree in a vacuum where the punt necessarily gets off correctly every time. Now, the obvious thing might be that the longsnap/catch/punt combination has never, not once, screwed up in practice therefore it is hard, percentage-wise, to not trot them out there. Basically, you go with the highest percentage. I agree that was a punt. The punt didn't work, so my other thought was the long snap, long pass option. But I would've definitely punted....and you know, blocked the rushers.
 
Sure, I agree in a vacuum where the punt necessarily gets off correctly every time. Now, the obvious thing might be that the longsnap/catch/punt combination has never, not once, screwed up in practice therefore it is hard, percentage-wise, to not trot them out there. Basically, you go with the highest percentage. I agree that was a punt. The punt didn't work, so my other thought was the long snap, long pass option. But I would've definitely punted....and you know, blocked the rushers.
If I had one thing to do over I would have taken a delay of game penalty lined up for the punt and see how MSU was lining up then called the time out and gone over options including what to do on a bad snap or drop. If he would have fallen on the ball when he dropped it MSU would have had at best 2 plays.
 
The Michigan fan base, only slightly less nauseating than Nebraska, is an insufferable conglomeration of those moronic soles that can't grasp the cataclysmic fall of a once proud Motor town, and region of suck. Their hopes, and dreams of a Michigan messiah will soon fade, as they come to realize it's still just Michigan. As far as their football team and fans, much like prostitution, they will finally realize that the only reason kids go there, is they are paying for them.
 
If I had one thing to do over I would have taken a delay of game penalty lined up for the punt and see how MSU was lining up then called the time out and gone over options including what to do on a bad snap or drop. If he would have fallen on the ball when he dropped it MSU would have had at best 2 plays.

Is punting out of bounds really that hard in crunch time for a punter? I remember that Philly game a few years ago where it was kicked right to the returner for a game winning TD, against Giants maybe? In this situation even a bad kick angled almost right out of bounds would add, say, 10-20 yards and take off 4-6 seconds. Sure, that leaves time for a hail mary, but a really long one.
 
There were 10 seconds left, what is an average play, 6? Punter had the ball on the ground by 8 with defenders all over him. Even presuming the regular line held up longer, they were rushing with everything regardless. If he runs straight backwards at some point they are in easy FG range, the punter was already on the 40.

I mean think how long 10 seconds actually takes, the punter drops it, picks it up, tries to kick it, MSU picks it up AND runs it 35 yards for a TD....with time JUST expiring. It is a long time for one single play.

There isn't a "great" strategy for this situation. Anything they do kills the clock with a chance at a FG for the W. If he had just laid on it there would have been a, what, 55 yard field goal?

My thought was maybe a long snap to the punter (or a qb) who simply throws it as far as he can downfield, preferably out of bounds. Incomplete puts the ball at the 52 with no chance at a FG and clock runs until the ball hits the ground, right?

Oh, crap. I thought there were less than 5 seconds left.

Makes sense.
 
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