So what you're saying is.......Iowa is better than Iowa State.EVERY time a coaching change happens they brag that 'this coach' will dominate Iowa, this coach will out recruit Iowa, this coach will control the state's talent. Then argue the Big 12 is the toughest league in the history of football and that the West of the big ten is so weak they'd win it. I once again point out the numerous JC transfers and projects that is the ISU cyclones.
EVERY time a coaching change happens they brag that 'this coach' will dominate Iowa, this coach will out recruit Iowa, this coach will control the state's talent. Then argue the Big 12 is the toughest league in the history of football and that the West of the big ten is so weak they'd win it. I once again point out the numerous JC transfers and projects that is the ISU cyclones.
Ironic thing is I went to Iowa State, but I have always been a Hawkeye fan. That's what happens when you graduate high school and you lived closer to Ames then Iowa City and to keep my girlfriend happy I stayed closer to home. I even Wore My Hawkeye clothing on State's campus. Lol I did however atend football and basketball camps at Iowa , back whenLute Olson was still the coach. I would be perfectly happy if the Hawkeyes were undefeated each year and the Cyclones lost one game. A strong Iowa State football program makes a Hawkeye victory that much sweeter. I also might add that I only attended Iowa State one year, then I shipped off to the US Air Force.
Right now the BIG 12 is on life support. They might pull through but their options for survival leave them watered down...that might be good for Iowa State. Then again if they continue to struggle, even after adding crappy teams to their conference, they will look all that much worse. ISU is a very interesting fan base. Back in the 80's and 90's they were the joke of college football and their fans were either very quiet or non existent. Then in 1998 they beat Iowa and changed the fan base forever. They have a few mediocre seasons but for the most part the past 15-18 years they have been quite rotten in football but that fan base still gets all hyped up about things. Its just weird to see a fan base get excited for being crappy.
About all you can say that has gone positively the last 17 years, oh you won the mr clean toilet bowl once.
You are correct. Wins and losses. If after 4 years he is winning 3 or 4 a year he will be toast. This is where, in my opinion, it will be interesting to see if he makes the Big 12 his focus. If he has a .500 record against Iowa and that is all he stands for then you will be replacing another coach. If he consistently beats the garbage in the Big 12 and breaks through with a couple of wins where he is the dog, then he can build on that. They need to start having some upper division finishes otherwise they are at a huge risk at staying in a P5. The ability to win 3 non Conf games AND make some sort of noise in the conference is mandatory....and soon.
