One Team had a Point Guard, the Other Didn’t
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And most highly rated recruits that don’t work out never play the minutes that both of his sons did. Heck CMac started in front of a top 5 pick in the NBA. You play Keegan Murray from the start as a freshman and Iowa probably has a final four appearance with Luka and Joe W. Instead Oregon’s backcourt outscored us like 61 to 0 and boatraced us out of the ncaa tourney.
WTF game were you watching? Dude scored 30 pts and abused Iowa. Hope this was sarcasm.
I did not defend the rotation. Conner did deserve his minutes his last year. The Murray's did get a raw deal.
Lil Lickliter and Cmac who would have thought two coaches kids would be the two worst iowa point guards this century?!? And yes Cmac was definitely better than Lil Lickliter but so is literally any divison one point guard the last 20 years.
Agreed, our program has been lacking athleticism for a long, long time now. For every athletic player on our roster, we normally have 4 unathletic players. Most solid programs (Illinois) have the opposite ratio. There is a reason our entire roster (save Freeman) probably had no offers from the Illini.
this makes me curious if Iowa fans even remember what a pg does.
they are both serviceable pg's to any coach that can teach defense and rebounding. Everyone here watches a team back dribble brock 5-6 dribbles and thinks that drew is the problem. That's a team/coaching problem.
you fools like to think that brock is a terrible shooter, he's a career .376% from three. Jordan bohannon was a career .397% shooter, that got to shoot with the murray's and garza and JW taking defensive pressure off him. If fran spoke of him the way he did ogelsby, you'd think he was the second coming. JBo seemed like a great shooter because he was taking 6.5 threes a game, so statistically he seemed like he was making a lot.
Brock's career assist to TO% is 2.7:1. JBO's is 2.4/1.
Brock is not the problem.
Oh look! Another tough guy internet poster. You know, is this something you would actually say to someone’s face you never met? If so, you would have a big problem on your hands. Don’t bother replying, your on ignore.
The answer is better coaching on defense and a powerful rebounder or 2. Pay attention, McFly.
you missed the pun didn't you? The video was Allen Iverson whose nickname is "The Answer". Are you with me now? Try to keep up, the rest of the class would appreciate it. lol
He’s not serviceable on an NCAA tourney type team. That’s been proven the past two seasons. Time to hit the transfer portal hard for a point guard. Not that Fran has ever really ever gotten a point guard in decades tho. 🤦♂️
Bohannon was a big part of the problem at Iowa similar to Harding. Too small to defend in the Big Ten. Cannot finish at the rim. Bohannon never showed up in the big games. Brock isn’t going to play in any big games his first two years at least.
He would have been fine if Fran would build a roster. Throwing Bohannon and Cmac in the same backcourt (I don’t really care when people say Cmac played the four or something like that, he was a guard) was a recipe for disaster, see Oregon or Richmond in the dance.
YEs flabbergasting especiall when the head coach was a pt guard and a really good one looking at his stats. Fran's offense is high powered and PT Guard friendly but Fran cannot get a 5* PG let alone even 4* I would say. A recruiting failure.
^^^ correct, basically a really top PG can get his shot about anytime in a possession. When the shot clock is down they can get themselves open for treys, drive and pull up for a mid range shot or shoot a floater or take it to the rim. These guys take over games, they can break down defenses so well it makes their teammates wide open.
Gesell who played pt guard and came to Iowa with Woodbury. He could dribble the ball and had ups and he could deform a defense and generally set up his teammates but he could not shoot the jumper very well an when he attacked the rim he would get there but never explode and get blocked many times. Now if he was a really good shooter and finisher those teams would have been hard to beat with the other players they had
Fran seems to get guards that can either defend and are athletic but can’t shoot like Clemmons and Gesell or guys like Bohannon that can shoot but can’t do anything else. Getting an all around guard (Dix and Perkins may be his best guards the past decade) doesn’t happen.
That may be true but he's playing Dix as a small forward and out of place playing against players much bigger then him, putting him in the same position that Brock is in. Still most of you that rag on Brock only see his height as an issue and are blind at all the other assist he brings.
Every player of the game gets abused during a game no matter who they are. Deal with it, you so called experts of college basketball. Iowa will rise again under a new coach soon enough and whether Owen or Brock are on the Iowa roster after this year is immaterial.
I'm an Iowa fan first and it's time Fran is removed from coaching Iowa one way or other. Hopefully sooner then later....
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